Drunken Monkey

you say 'fa jing' it is well known enough (and has been mentioned on here many times before). if you look again , he is talking about something he calls 'jeng' in any case, he still is making a convincing point about anything. he says that kick boxing isn't kung fu but then no one ever said it was. unfortunately, he uses some half arsed argument as to why it isn't that actually points to the conclusion that kick boxing is indeed kung fu. me, being a reasonable little boy, am aware that there are often little confusions between how a word is spoken and the word is 'best' spelt in english. that is why i have asked for a simple image of the charater he is talking about.

yes, we all know you are very oblivious to the martial arts....

i have. doesn't say anything about 'jeng' (which you still haven't shown me) all i can see, is an article about body mechanics. and i see now. you read an article about a mantis guy and all of a sudden, you're doing mantis as well....

nah, we lose everytime someone points a video camera in our direction...

whoa, let me get this right, kickboxing isn't kung fu according to you, and yet you give a kickboxing link?

well, there's one 'ring' i'm pretty sure he's familiar with...

i'm always a bit warey of things in books (can't stop buying them though) after all, in words and on paper, all styles are invincible. but then what the hell, i'm sure it'll be a good read and sometimes, that's all that matters. and as i've said before, even a 'bad' style has something to offer. in any case, if you do get it, let us know what you think.

what??? energy, in chinese is strength/power/force. mind, in chinese is concerntration/focus/mentality. body, in chinese is well, body. therefore a kickboxer IS doing 'kung fu' because he is using strength, focus and body. * * * one of the earliest forms, and the most widespread types of kung fu was 'san shou' (taken from cantonese and not refering to any style). this is basically loose techniques. very basic principles. four gates. centre. stance. blocks. grabs. hits. nothing to do with energy. nothing to do with mind. all about blocking a hit and making a hit. so are you saying that this wasn't kung fu? wing chun. it's aim was to defeat the old styles. the people who originally used this style didn't care about mind or energy. all they cared about was being able to kill ching soldiers and high ranking government officers. so wing chun wasn't kung fu then? like i said. show me the word you are trying, very badly, to talk about and i'll tell what it really means. oh yeah, tell me again what style you are learning.

not the same. 'brazillian jiu-jitsu' is the combination of an english word and a romanised version of a japanese word (in other words, they are both english terms). shaolin-do is a combination of two romanised words from two diffrent languages (making a new 'name/term/word' in english). does that make sense cos it reads a bit confusingly. let's try again. either the name shaolin-do is a translated name, in which case it would be 'shaolin way'. as i have said, we don't use the word 'do' in chinese for anything to do with shaolin so it can't be a straight romanisation. it can't be a romanisation of japanese because the characters are read nothing like 'shaolin' (although they do actually mean the same thing) as we all know in japanese, the characters are read as 'shorin'. if it was translated from japanese it would be 'little forest/young forest/shaolin way'. if it was romanised it would be 'shorin do'. man i'm confused.....

um, it wasn't that she went for random bus drivers. she um, kinda went with most bus drivers. she did have a favorite though. she was known to spend entire days on weekends, on the buses... i mean, we got way, way too much information about him from her.

is that another from your wrestling shows?

my point is, the characters for shaolin ONLY reads 'shaolin' in chinese. nothing to do with the meaning. in japanese and i'm sure in the okinawan dialect, it does not sound anything like 'shaolin'.

No hand techniques allowed to make contact to facial or neck area. (During the bare knuckle rounds only). No strikes/leg techniques allowed to groin, knees, spinal cord or kidneys. (All Rounds) One Hand and two-handed grabbing is permitted with a three (3) second time limit. (All Rounds) Continued grabbing is permitted with a three (3) second time limit. (All Rounds) During bare knuckle and Thai-Boxing rounds no submission techniques, choking techniques or joint manipulations are allowed. When entering 5 oz. open hand gloves rounds, grappling, submission, chokes, joint manipulations are allowed.

because the languages don't mix like that. chinese wouldn't use the word 'do' at all because it has a different meaning in chinese (another form of religious worship/study, in case you were interested) japanese wouldn't be like that because in japanese, shaolin is read as 'shorin'. please note that i am not saying that it's all crap. just pointing out how the languages work.

so um, where did you read that one? cos the only chinese words i know that sounds like that means 'nice' or 'well' or 'smart/sly' maybe if you can upload a jpeg of the character i can help you bit. as for my class. we prefere to work on the: 'my fist, your face combining as one'

(fixed a typo) you? a full contact fighter? since when? you say you've taken part in full contact tournaments but can't name the event. you say it's full contact but then say something about being penalized for hitting the head. make up your mind. at least get your story straight before tapping them keys. here's a question for you little boy: what makes you a mma practicioner?

why? it would be a waste of time and effort. he's been going on about taking part in a pro competition for about half a year now. the last guy i spoke to about nhb fights signed on for a local fight and already took part (and lost...). this was two months ago. some people say. some people do. guess which group that kid belongs to.

just out of interest could someone post the kanji for shotokan up somewhere? i wanna see what it reads (if anything) in chinese...

nah, just a guy who put two chinese words together thinking that the chinese language is anything like english... chi=breath chaun=fist therefore chi chuan SHOULD=fist of breath/chi or chi fist. unfortunately it doesn't quite work like that. ask a hong kong guy what 'fishing for crabs' is...

the thing is, we do get hit and we do get hurt and we do walk out with bloodied noses, sprained joints and bruised bodies. that's why we only go really heavy after the normal class. everyone in the class knows we do this but not everyone asks us about it. i'm sure you don't need to train/spar/fight like this in a class. we just feel that it's better to do this in a safe environment among brothers rather than let you get into trouble in the streets (or where-ever).

something else that is interesting. 'ki chaun do' in chinese is 'chi chaun fa' as someone mentioned. well, 'chi chuan' means 'forfeit/give up/i don't know/pass'

have you noticed that most people who say that the ufc is the best test of a martial art (or something similar) do or say they do gracie jiujitsu or brazillian jiu jitsu...?

with or without gloves? without gloves, we face off and enter. we grab/pull at full strength. we push at full strength. we do all interceptions at full strength. the only thing we 'pull' is the way we hit. when we play like this we are actually concerntrating more on dealing with the hands. we play a game of 'clear the hands' if you like. our reasoning is that both sides know when one side can be hit. with the gloves, it is much the same. the exception being that we can actually make continous contact. admittedly we also hit differently, using the back of the hand more instead of a full on chung chui. instead of striking with the elbow, we just apply pressure with it (like a push). we've ordered a couple of full 'face-caged' head gear to see what they're like cos we really want to get to use our punches properly. as for biu gee, we use it more for interception/redirection or for rescueing a overcooked movement. there are lots of interpretations of what biu gee (the movement, not the form) is and the thing, all the versions i've heard of, makes sense and 'works'.

well, why don't you actually read about what feng shui is before saying anything about it? it helps to actually know what you are talking about instead of only having an 'impression' of what it is.

if you want, wing chun is really a set of concepts/principles: direct hitting straight lines triangles trapping covering centre line borrowing adding the moves/forms, if you like, are just an example of how things can be done. they are by no means fixed. in theory, you can apply the concepts to any fight situation. after all, blocking a hit to the head is more or less the same no matter if you are standing up or on the floor. admittedly, there are different things to worry about but you should still be able to apply the concepts/principles.