Last nite at JKD was good because the instructor got us to hit, really hit, each other!!! With thai kicks, punches etc... to strengthen our threshold to being struck. Not matter how good you are, if you are not ready to take a few knocks, when you are hit, its a real shock!!! Most people quit after this training, but like training the attributes, its crucial to the development of the serious martial artist. After all, in a real fight, no punches are pulled!!!!! Maybe in point karate and stuff its not needed. Watching a kali demo before my class, we saw a full contact spar session....one guy had a massive lump on his arm from the sticks!! It was a real scrap!! Kind of shocking for a beginner like me but with the training i am getting, it should toughen me up!