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I had several of his products its mostly his students though. JT Tores, Paul Green hill, Mike Fowler, and when Ryan Hall was with Lloyd Irvin. What did he do to recruit guys from other gyms? I heard that accusation before but haven't heard any instructors accuse him out rite of stealing their students away. I only seen one vid Lloyd teaching. You would have to fast forward past the infomerical to get to him actually teaching. Its a basic American, Straight armlock, Kimura flow series from Side control. He does a good job explaining it and the details of the move. I like his products over all. However I thought Ryan Hall does the best job in conveying the details and setups of moves. Actually he is probably the best instructor I have seen in explaining how moves work so every one else can understand them. Just my opinion.

Have any of you purchased Lloyd Irvin Products before? And if so what do you think of them? I have purchased several my favorite would be the Mastering the Triangle choke (Ryan Hall) It is no longer for sale I believe. however Ryan went on his own and did his own triangle dvd with I believe world martial arts. Any way I loved this product not just the detailed instruction in the dvd's but the audio cd's were great as well. Talking about competion experience and what to do going against tight guard passers, leg lockers, bigger guys, open division, fast passers, werstlers and many other people and diffrent types of ways to get the triangle choke. I never put much thought in learning from an audio cd for Jiu-Jitsu. However Ryan hall does such a good job conveying how to maintain or reposition back into the triangle I was really impressed. They had a work book with pic's on the triangle as well. The others I Liked were Mike Fowlers game plan, and his hafa adi dvd. Also have his nogi made easy course that was pretty good. Probably my least favorite would be pilates for grapplers. Any one have an opinion on Lloyd Irvin's products?

Annoyed by BJJ? Absolutely! 1. Take downs. They need to be trained more. If a bjj coach isn't good at them please try to bring in a good wrestling or judo coach. Especially at the begging level students. Gives them more confidence in there matches. 2. IBJJF Tournament fee's and certain rules. Enough said! 3. The saying leave your ego at the door. Biggest life ever. 4. The consistently stinky or poor hygiene guy. Please clean up or just go away for good. No one likes you! 5. People with attitudes that basically think if they haven't seen a move in the big tournaments in the black belt division. Then it isn't a legit move. 6. If a teacher hasn't placed in the worlds in the black belt division. They aren't legit. 7. BJJ fan boys who think that Royce proved BJJ is the best fighting art and the rest are useless. 8. Belt Standards or requirements are to vague or non existent. I wish there was some mesurable set of standards across the board.

I never cared for traditional methods of defense against Hair Grabs, Shirt grabs, shoulders, wrists and what not. I found to often it was done static at least at the dojo I was at and several others I have visited. What I mean by static, is the person will do the grab but then stop and wait for the person to do the defense. I think this leads to a false sense of what goes on in those situations to the defender. More pushing pulling, lifting up type motions go into it. If trained that way it helps the defender more IMO. Not sure if females would want to train the hair grab that way. As before the hair gets caught in the persons fingers, and be a painful ordeal for the person trying to escape, ever now and then just to deal with the resistence of the opponent would be good, not all the time or the women will be bald. LOL!

It definetly wasn't tastefuly done, thats for sure!

Well this took me forever. Well honestly the Instructional series was fantastic minus a few production errors. The information on the DVD's, work book, and audio series, when well above and beyond any info that is out there on the triangle. However Ryan Hall is no longer with Team Lloyd Irvin so that course is off the market. However Ryan Hall came out with his own vid. Which looks incredible as well. Here is a couple of sample vids from the video series. 1st vid is on fisishing the triangle, and what muscles to spend more focus on in the finishing process. This detail of the leg muscles is diffrent then the previous course he has done. Its a nice detial that definely helps out. Next vid is on a set up from a sweep from guard to get into teh triangle choke. I learned alot from the vid, basically on some details that Ryan shows, plus he transitioning into the triangle choke that I like very much. Take a look at the vids and let me know what you think.

My opinion between TMA's (Not all) and MMA (Boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo ect.) Is that the arts them selves have a live proponent to it. by alive I mean a fully resiting partner, or a partner who offers varying levels of resitence. That aliveness is the TEST that allows the person to grow quicker because they get to see what is working for them and what isn't. They get to work on the core basics that are the higher percetage moves that will develop there figthting ability quicker. Arts that have that aliveness factor will in my opinion have better results in self defense then those arts that don't. Just my opinion.

These are some highlights from one of the instructors at the gym I go to. He is really good. first vid was when he was a purple belt. Some very good sweeps, arm locks, triangle choke submissions in this one. http:// Next vid is when he is a brown belt. The match at the 9:25 second mark is from this years pan ams for the brown belt light weight finals. Steve was winning by advantage and then his oppenent took his back. His oppenent then made a crucial mistake that cost him the match. My favorite is the over head sweeps he does from pulling guard on his oppenents or when his oppenents stand in his guard. [/url]

I don't think it was new, I think the combination of the postions, tranistions, submissions as well as the time spent on the ground developing it is what makes it new. Sort of like Cell phone. A new cell phone may come out with a bunch of new applications and by them selves may not be new but combined together make that cell phone new and handy. I mean who wants a Zach Morris (Saved by the bell) bulky style cell phone compared to the ones they have out now?

PS1, that is cool he came around. Awesome expeirence. I hope he comes around again and works out with you guys. Yeah I saw that your gym is a Pedro Sauer affiliate. Definetly legit! Pedro is an excellent instructor and produces really good students. I seen listend to a radio interview with Ed O'niell talking about his training at the Gracie Acadmey and how his game is based around the basics and pressure. I would love to pick his brain I am sur he has some really good details he can share. I hope he comes back and trains with you guys. In case you wanted to hear it or any one else on here. Here is the radio interview. It talks about he got into Jiu-Jitsu, his training philosophy and his experience of getting his BJJ BB as well as his opinion on MMA today. http://www.sherdog.com/radio/MMA-Sunday-School-Ed-ONeill-525

That is awesome! I knew a BJJ BB under Rey Diogo (Carlson Gracie Black Belt) that rolled with Ed O'Niell before. Said the guy is pretty good. That is awesome he came down to your guys school. Did he roll with any one or just talked? My guess is talked because he mentioned in an interview that lately because of injury's and such he only rolls with Rorian and his sons because they are the only ones that don't try to go after him. Any way thanks for shairing your experience that is awesome he came by the gym. I always wanted to meet the guy.

Yeah I knew about it over a year ago, I just never thought about posting it here until now. Thats cool Black Belt magazine did an article on him.

Here is another power point presentation on the triangle chokes speficially from the half guard, and inverted gaurd. Its about 24 min long. http://ryanhallgameplan.com/mtsppt/

No prob PS1, Yeah I like Ryan Halls Material. I am looking forward to checking out the course he helped put together on the triangle choke alone. If you like that vid I will post the links of his triangle set up vids. What I like about them is that not only he shows the set up, and how to do it, but also shows him in competion doing it as well.

Not sure if this has been posted already. Been over a year ago but Ed O'Niell (Al Bundy) earns his Black Belt in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. He was training for 15 years at Gracie Acadmey in Torrance, CA and earned his Black Belt. http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=k3yjN1KrqfM&feature=related

Ryan Hall is a BJJ brown belt under Lloyd irvin and has finished over 200 opponents on triangle chokes alone in competion. I really like his presentation in fact I liked his teaching style so much in some of his other vids that are out there I baught his trianlge course. When I recieve it and view and work the info thats on it, I can put up a review of what I think of it if any one wants to hear it? In any event curious what others thought of the presentation? I know its long around 34 min. I thought it was good though and it has definetly helped out my triangle finishing percetage when I roll.

Hey every one, this is a vid of Ryan Hall Triangle Power Point presentation on how to not triangle as well as showing you proper way to triangle choke. Its kind of long but it is really good. It has helped increase my percetage of triangle chokes by considrable amount. I think right now Triangle choke would be my highest percetage submission. http://ryanhallgameplan.com/hownottotriangleppt/

Pretty much articulates my OP far better then I did. It seems that those who have more grappling experience have a better understanding of the importance of this factor. Mainly based on the constant contact compared to when striking where it isn't felt when conact is made with the body mass behind the technique.

First studying the martial arts over a decade ago. I got that impression throguh class and studying books and articles on Martail Art traiing that Size and and stregth don't matter technique can defeat that. As well as technique if done right should be easy. After years of training though I soon found out size and stregth do matter may not be conciously mostly I was wondering what I did wrong in my technque, why wasn't it easy? I guess I should keep working on it more. Those were my thoughts, however later on I realize that technique is fueled by attributes, technique is great for leverage, but athleteicsm, size, strength, flexbility, speed, ect,ect,ect fuel the techniques. Lets take a big guy who lifts an object up but has horrible form(lifting with the back instead of the legs) , but he feels it was still easy to lift the object up. Then lets take a smaller person who uses proper technique to lift something and it still feels heavy to them. It all seems like common sense to me now. I just found it funny over the years of training that it took me so long to accept that belief. I am sure many others have simular experiences to share right? Please do! Thank you! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

I believe that was covered in the Orginal post about well placed strike, throat, temple ect.

I take it as a philosophy to strive for in developing ones power in each strike, but reality is to develop also combinations becasue more often then not I believe that will end a confrontation from a physical stand point then one strike alone.

I have done cross training early in my martail art studies, and I have come to a few conclusiions. I think its okay to cross train early on IMO however it just may slow your progress down in the rankings especially if its two diffrent styles. You need to be a good learner, take notes, and develop yoru basics which definition of can vary from isntructor to instructor on basics of ones own style. I think cross training in say striking and grappling is fine, because they are so diffrent its less likely to get confused as if doing two stand up styles ie. ( Ed parker Kenpo, and Shotokan Karate) The best thing is to pay attention to your instructor take notes, and develop the correct mechanics or technique movements. Also IMO however is that it depends on how much time you can dedicate to it, if you have family, work, and other life commitments and can only focus a couple times a week to training. Probably better to train in one style for a few years until youd evelop good basics (good mechanics, speed, power, and timing) basically making your basic moves of your style work with a resisting "alive" parnters. After that incorporate other styles if you want. Or you can do what ever you want its your money, and time, and your just doing it for fun and learning something new great. If your in need of self defense skills right away, you might want to persue other avenues instead of diving into 1 style. Thats just my opinion.

I know what you mean. The instructor was so out in left ball field, it made the movie pretty funny. Just character habits you don't see in a respected dojo/dojang/school. So it was pretty funny. My favorite was his sales pitches or recruitment tactics especially with the blonde female that came in and after the conversation she still wasn't convinced so he shows her the trophy he won in a tournament to try and convince her. LOL!

Probably not best movie. There are some funny parts, but also some where the people were trying to be funny but came off more awkeward. Kind of like a person trying to hard to tell a funny joke, but there delivery doesn't come off very funny. So there is that awekward silence or maybe an awkeward laugh to be nice. Over all I enjoyed the movie, but honestly I wouldn't have been happy if I baught the movie or watched it in theaters, as it wouldn't live up to the hype of the trailers on youtube. Still for seeing it for free, there are some hilirious parts to the movie, the rest can bad. Even so over all I enjoyed it.

There are some other funny parts, but not really that many. Pretty much go with what tenshinka suggested. That is what I did.