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So they are using both Cantonese and mandarin on both sides of China?

My northern broder Then its settled then. In the northern China its called Shifu, In the southern China its called Sifu. Now where in China is Cantonese used, and where is Mandarin used?

Im amazed that you can remember the names. Is your style northern or southern?

Drunken Monkey I dont believe wing chun is a shaolin beater, Shaolin has a VERY long list of arsenals of techniques, that can counter it. Just like any other style can beat any style out there(but perhaps you meant that to ). Yes, there are styles thats better than others(to know that, you will have to look at the training and philosofy...my guess). But there are so many factors in a fight. Like (Is the other a natural better fighter than the other(Who has studied his style the longest(Who has most fighting-experience(Did you get breakfasts(Did you stay up to late last night(Does the other fighter have a mental illness that makes him a little slower thinking that the other guy(what is his tactic(Or did he just have a bad day? All these factors are more(correct my if mistaking) important than what style he practice. Personally Im getting a little sick of hearing "My style can beat all the other styles. Just like my dad can beat up your dad". I get enough of that childish talk at my school. One thing I havent heard is about Wushu. I know Wushu is one of the names for kung fu in china, its also a newer updated edition of classical Gung Fu with some ballet looking movements in it but. Heres the question: All the schools ive been to said "Wushu is show kung fu and not useful in a real fight" and also "WUshu is nice looking kung fu without power". But none of them has practiced it ever, so I ask, "how can you be so certain?". I have read in a website with it, that says that theres nothing better. I know thats wrong but just how wrong is it? If there is one who has studied traditional Gung Fu and also Wushu, could you then tell me if its useful in a real fighting situation? "aznkarateboi has given us a broad environment and situation of a guy just attacks you in an alley or in a parking lot. Let’s make it a blind ally only one way in and one way out. It is indeed unfortunate that we live in such a place as most martial artists would avoid walking down alleys, but alas. As we walk down the ally on this sunny afternoon wearing runners, jeans, tank top/t-shirt we hear foot steps behind us, as we turn we a confronted by a of a man five feet ten inches tall slim build some 5 – 6 feet away from us brandishing a knife. When you ask the gentleman what he wants he replies “I just bought this hunting knife and thought I would have some fun and stick someone” Your back is up against the wall and you have less than 3 seconds to react, what do you do and which martial arts you think would help you deal with this situation." I would through down my bag, open it and take out my nunchachu an beat the living sh.. out of him. and I can easily do that in 3 seconds. ….

No matter. Maybe I will know what you mean after a little while. I think its like a puzzle box(Youl never know wha...). You will know how to open it, when you are ready for it.

LOL rofl Thats the most realistic list I have ever seen. I advice you all to keep that list in your hearts and obey it.

I think thats the right solution to. My theory is, that mandarin and Cantonese has different ways of saying it.

How can lee say that when his books tells so mush more? It dont matter. Yes that handed it down good. Thanks all. No need to dig any further in this.

"think piston." ??? "and you can't really see if he has body structure behind the punch or not. that's something you can only feel." Okay. But thats not what he told me, and he literally said that I should only punch with my arm completely streched without the body or anything. "from the open goat stance, if structure is correct, you won't be able to push him over. it's kinda like a trick but it shows you how to redirect/manipulate forces applied in that direction. i.e something going against the punch. it's that manipulation that lends the wing chun punch to having a 'lifting' effect (or 'dropping' depending on the situation)." Thats cool. I believe I have read that in a wing chun book by yip mans son. and I saw it in "the big boss". It looked great. "wing chun is brutal. at least it's intention is to be. at least at it's most extreme it is brutal) at the end of the day, it is something that aims to knock a guy down and make sure he stays down." I always thought that it was very relaxing. or so I have been told. "then again, most martial arts out that have at their core, the same intentions." well, yes I suppose.

"...just a little back-tracking. bruce lee has said that what he did in the films was not jkd. the stuff for films was just stuff done for films. hmm, the original 'movie-do'?" Yes, except for "game of death", which was THE way for him to show his approach to the martial art(except when teaching his very few students sepered, in his backyard(after he closed down all jun fan gung fu schools)). Although he strived to have the stamp of realism(unlike mandarin films), he did say "I can make all kinds of fonny things, or show you some really fancy movements, but to be true to one self, that my friend is very hard to do"(only parts of his words). "i keep mentioning this but when asked by one of his wing chun seniors what jkd was, he responded by saying 'pak sau and hip'." Has that guy ever read Lees works? "the only way to train footwork whilst maintaining correct structure is to have someone who can show you what works and what doesn't work. you need someone who knows where and how to apply pressure to test structure." That makes sense, but theres noone around to show it to me... "as i said, jkd does not teach you fight like bruce lee. it teaches you to see things differently. how you fight depends on you. if you are aiming to ape bruce lee's movements then you are not doing jkd." if you want to fight like bruce lee then go ahead and copy things from the films. just remember, moving like bruce lee doesn't make you as good as he was (or whatever)." Cant argue with that. But my question was, do your footwork look like the one lee used, in jkd.

"hmm, a student telling the instructor he was wrong. correction. a NEW student telling the instructor he was wrong." Your right ofcause, but at some points, you just have to draw the line. To be a little more precise. He said that his way was the bedst, and that if you stop your punch right before you hurt your arm, you wont penetrate and will only hit the surfes. That was where I corrected him. "he said that you should just throw your Punch without using your shoulders, hips or foots" "this is almost true. the punching motion in wing chun does not rely on the body moving at the same time (kinda... something i'd need to show you in person). it relies on the structure of the body to be correct. the wing chun punch DOES use the shoulder, and hip and foot. in fact it uses, in asending order; ankle, knee, hip, shoulder, elbow and wrist. BUT like i said, the punch is 'performed' independently of the body structure (which is trained to be always 'on': hence independent of the punch) when you combine the punching mechanics with footwork, turning/torquing is added to the mix." Yeah, that sounds more correct. But he didnt do that. He didnt use the body at all. And he through his arm out all the way when punching. I would like to know if thats also the way you guys do it? "except that you said it was wing tsun. as in leung ting/keith kernspecht's organisation. they're not the most respected of wing chun guys out there." I have read in the newspapers that its VERY brutal.

Couldnt you write it a little more detailed. It sounds cool. Goat stance, a little weird name but probably nice enough. I learned poon sau(at-least I thinks it was called that. so many saus in it) from a wing chun book. Its about trapping the opponents hands, it was great!

Someone whos name was Bong . Stupid name for a stupid guy.

Yeah thats the bedst way I quess. Then after some years I could travel to a place where I can train jkd. But the people their are just a little to "I know this is the bedst style and everyone else is without power" types know what I mean?

kung fu toa...not real gung fu but a lot of martial arts combined into somekind of non-chines style, which is more like a gung fu, karate and mui tay mix. Not something I liked. And then there was the wing tsun school with the sadistic teacher. The school im training in now is an hour trip towards training, two hous of training, and one hour home. Its a little long but its exactly the style I want to practice.

Yeah two or three hours towards training, then two hours of training, then two or three hours on the tripe home...sounds pretty bad!

Damn! There must be a way! I could propebly get transportation to kobenhagen and then try a free lesson, then hope hes the real deal.

Yeah but thats the problem right their. Theres only one jkd teacher in Denmark that I know of, and his pretty far away. How will I know if his any good? I dont know how hes supposed to teach me?

So far so good . You 2 comes with much more detailed answers than I. But thats good. Maybe I should practice a few more yeas and then reply to this post again after that .

THATS the word, footwork yes. Completely forgot it. That makes sense. But in my style, the footwork is by going into deep stance, so I wont learn much footwork there. Do you practice jkd? Will I be able to learn it just by reading the books and then practice that which is in them, and then discard and forget that which I cant use?

Im a Cristian to. I also studie martial arts, but I keep it as a secret. You can say Im only fooling myself but, The other witnesses looks at martial arts as very wrong. The reason for keeping it secret is because I, like it is said in Matthew 18:6 -"BUT WHOEVER STUMPLES ONE OF THESE LITTLE ONES WHO PUT FAITH IN ME, it is more beneficial for him to have hung around his neck a millstone such as is turned by an * and to be sunk in the wide, open sea." That is what Im afraid of. If some of my brothers or sisters know I practice this, he/she would maybe be thinking If he can do it, then so can I. And if that person then thinks Im doing it for becoming a fighter, he would be studying it for the wrong reasons. This may sound strange but. The way I see it is like this... A Punch is just another movement of your hand, and a kick is just another movement with your foot, just like any other movement can be use in the day-life so could it be used for fighting. Yes its properly wrong to use it as you are toughed, but its just like a knife. Its not its purpose that matters, Its how you use it. Me personally, I study this because its an art, and Im an artist when I do it. I have never heard of a gung fu school in Denmark that is interested in religion. But almost all the Japanese schools are obsessed by it. So its a good thing that Im only interested in gung fu.

Thanks I have read in "TAO of Jeet Kune Do". That one should only tighten ones fist in the moment of the impact. You will get more speed by hitting with relative loos arm, and then only tighten it in the moment of the impact to get more speed and that means more power, and then you will hit several inches behind the target that way. My style teaches you to first turn your feet then your hips and your shoulders always follow the hips, Then go down in stance and make a flowing circle like movement with your arms. I thinks that how it should be said.

I have read that Bruce Lee has never been defeated. And in his biografy there isnt anything about being defeated by that guy.

First thing I would say is that this question it to all Martial Arts fighters. I had two free lessons in Wing Tsun and it was a disaster. The teacher was an idiot and he had misunderstood a LOT of things about martial arts. He was very violent to the students. To show me how to "really" punch, he hit me in my throat. He said that blocking was an illusion, and that you would have to hit from the centerline and throw you arm out til it says some really unhealthy sounds. By that he said that you should just throw your Punch without using your shoulders, hips or foots. so I said "Wheres the power in that?" You will have to get you whole body behind it to hit with power and to penetrate. BUT you also should stop your punch right before you elbow says click. But that I wants so sure about. Maybe there was a way to stretch your arm out all the way without hurting it. I told him that he was wrong and then he said that I should use my Kung Fu on him. I hated him sure, but this was just ridiculous. Anyway he hitted me two times, the second time I blocked and broke his nose good. I mean indicated that I could break his nose of cause . Then the fight started. I kept indicating where I would have hit him(I wouldnt hurt him of cause), but he kept hitting me if I didnt parried him(he had no defense...dont know why). He was violent and childish that stupid little f... I REALLY hated him after that . Now I dont have anything against all you who studies Wing Chun, and I dont know very much about it. But he raised a question. How do your school punch. And Im talking about all schools off martial art, not just Wing Chun. Are you teached to stop your punch right before for your elbow says click? Or do you do the opposite and stretch you arm out completely? Do you use your whole body to get power to you punch? Or hits without your body behind it? Do you go down in stance to get power? Or do you just punch where you are standing at the moment? Do you hit with loose arm and first tighten your arm at the moment of the impact to get more speed? Or do you hit with a loose fist and then tighten it in the moment of the impact? Or do you do both? Do you hit with a tightened arm and fist the whole punching moment? Do you hit with flowing movements? Or do you hit with a first fist-hit-back-stop-second fist-hit-back-stop robot like movement? My purpose is just to get a larger view of the different forms of punching so that my way of punching doesnt become the Gospel truth that you cannot change.

"Maybe if you tell us what your looking for in a martial arts we can point you in the right direction." Yeah I think thats bedst. "it sounds to me he wants to fight like how bruce lee did in the films....." Bruce Lee is one of the persons I look up to the most. So yes I would, but only partly, becauce he teached to be onenest to one self. If so I wouldnt truly understand what he said. So here goes... I think ive found a better word for the jumping. It it said that you have to move out of the way if you opponent striks out for you if you dont intent to intercept him. And you do that by stepping just a litlle out of the way an then you quikly move into him. So its more like stepping out and then in. If your opponent then moves towards you with many long and fast movements you will have to move quikly out of the way by a fast stepping or something. And the book told you to step-jump relaxing(its not the right word, but i cant find any other word for it) by doing a very little jump from your one foot to you other foot. or step-jump on both feets forth and back, but to do it in a relaxing way, not like kickboxing or boxing. and be able to move flowing, fast and without limitations. So to your comment Drunken Monkey, I have to say yes. I know its not what Bruce Lee wanted, but I like the way he fights, so free and so lightfooted. Maybe it is like you said it can be cross. "When you find an instructor of jkd they will probably teach you some techniques and the concepts behind them. Then you make what you want of them and add or take techniques away. So basically it can look however you want it to look but there are still principles and so on which are followed" Well thats how I see it atleast.