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Where does the Bible come into this?? The fact is that they don’t read errors on the page, even though they are to read verbatim, the point is that what people read and what they comprehend are quite often different. (There is a correlation between both studies, so both share relevance.) I thought we were talking about comprehension? Interpretation/Mis-interpretation BIG EXAMPLE HERE: In this very thread, the principals of ‘ki’ are written in both ENGLISH & JAPANESE – There is a watered down translation, the one most English speakers read. There is also a ‘direct’ literal translation, sans grammar, what the Japanese actually says. Ken had a hard time with it, too. GO BACK and read them… See , you don’t read, or remember reading something just a few posts back, you keep asking me to tell you the same stuff. This is numbered, so I assume its principle. 心身統一の四大原則 １．臍下の一点に心をしずめ統一する。 ２．全身の力を完全に抜く。 ３．身体の総ての部分の重みを、その最下部におく。 ４．氣を出す。 The rest os the stuff is not (numbered-if you want to get "technical"), so I cannot distinguish. To read is different, as you HAVE stated, as is to interpretet what is written. No, it doesn’t sound strange if it’s interpreted properly. After 30 years research, I find it hard to believe you don’t know the difference between ‘do’ and ‘jutsu’; ‘do’ way, or path, literal, the road, ‘jutsu’ means technique or skill. In some isolated cases, it can mean art, but in reference to MAs, justu can only mean technique or skill. Don't I? Or was i (oops, another grammatical error-heck who's counting-does it matter on a forum) just asking to see what you would post? See, the top three involve a skill, the bottom involve beliefs or a commitment to a certain discipline. Da I know what 'ki' is, or what I practice anyway. I've been told 'Chi' is something different. You'll have to find an expert on 'Chi' and ask them. Isn't Ki a derrivtive of Chi/Qi? or do I have that mixed up with Ch'en/Zen?

What, per translation/defintion, is Mitsun Lohan Kung Fu?

BTW-OT: In language theory, this is called prediction. Experimentation shows that native speakers when participating in randomized cloze practices fill in word based on their assumptions, perceptions, or beliefs on a particular topic and what they think the answer should be. Experimentaion also shows how people are "lead" to belief and follow. Quite often making a mistake based on what they though they read, or what it ‘should have read’, not actually what they read. But, HOW was it written, is the main fact. Along with fill cloze practices, another interesting test; A group of native and a group of non-native speakers are given a text to read aloud. The text has 25 grammatical errors. When the non-natives read the passage they say all 25 errors, the natives say 15 or less, the mind takes over and automatically predicts correct syntax and smooth out errors. So, this is in the same analogy as the Bible? Depends on how the text is written, by whom it is re-written and conveyed, and whom interprets it?. Ki principals? Like what? Isn't Aikido, AikiJutsu transformed from "art" to "way"? Also, given the translation of Aikido, doesn't it sound "far out"?

Another skeptic?

Shucks, I am not allowd to speak of specific animals

Man, I have stuff dating back to the 60's

A friend of one of my cousins had. He got shot for starring at the wrong person in the wrong place. He was told by people whom was with him, to "look away". But he did not and was "macho". Now he is dead. I went to the funeral and was sickened by the fact it was all needless. Sometimes, one must "humble" thenselves to avoid conflict.

Bravo. It is not the "gun that kills". Gun laws make innocent people pay. Criminals get guns despite gun laws, why...because they ARE criminals.

Defeat what enimies with mind and will? Oh, I get it. If someone breaks into our home and intends to do my wife harm, she has the "mind" and the "will" to send bullets flying-end of story.

just said "dangerous" because some schools are run by professionals. They may not necessarily be teaching you martial arts that you can use to defend yourself on the street, but it will be done in a professional manner. This tricks people into thinking they are highly competent on the street, when they may not be. Thus the element of danger.' I know of serveral cases that this ACTUALLY HAPPENED. I haven't been to those schools so I don't know for sure 100%, but the most successful McDojos are the ones that are clean, well-organized and well-presented. What do you mean, if you hadn't been to them give a description of them?

So far any demos I have witnessed (per I tried to get them to perform the demo with other material) or participated in, make be "beleive" in Ki/Chi/Qi. Being a magician (retired) like Randi, has made me skeptical. knowing of the many illusionsts out there. Even in Aikido, I have not found it to be. Does Ki/Chi/Qi exists? Depends on the definition, demostration, and example given. But, my "book is still opened".

I think to touch and sense a injury on someone is luck or metal-influence. Like a fair side show or game. Guessing someone's weight.

You say that your Ki, is different than Chi? Please explain the differences. Michael Jordan has talent in his field. What does him teaching it have any effect on Ki? No in actually, the car does not perform better with nitrous. It is bad for the car. it makes the car go fast, but there is a "price" to pay. What is Aikido's definition of Ki? Please do not get frustrated. I am looking for explanations.

Yeah, and you may not be "able" to use your MA skills.

Yes, Thanks, I didn't see it as a sermon. have a few Christian students. The problem is the other Chritians that try to convince my Christian students that martial arts is wrong for Christians.

Yeah, I understood the technique, it just sounded weird.

Yeah, I just wanted to see some examples. I have such of my own as well. I wanted to see if we were on the "same page". Therefore, I agree.

No, his sixth sense would be: Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it Stop starring. Stop starring. Stop starring. Stop starring. Stop starring. Stop starring.

Questions: Is the belief in Ki/Chi/Qi against Christian practicing martial arts? Is meditation against Christian practicing martial arts? Is bowing, against Christian practicing martial arts? Is learning fighting methods, per punching, kicking, injuring, against Christian practicing martial arts?

Was the tyrant Shuang Hu Ti (canniot think of the actual spelling right now)

I am limiting this discussion to ‘ki’ as I do not have sufficient knowledge, experience, or training with ‘chi’. But yet you can claim it helped you with TKD? After practicing the ‘ki’ exercise, we practice the actual technique and try to apply what we have learned. What actual technique? What kind for example? This is akin to the football coach explaining a new play to a well trained football team. The team knows exactly what to do, they have a plan, but when they get out on the field, well you know, s*** happens. So, the Aikido instructor (the coach) teached Ki (the new play), then the practitoners (the team players) get into real life (the field), well you know, s*** does happens. ‘ki’ in itself is not a technique, it enhances technique. A car cannot run on nitrous oxide alone, the car needs gasoline, too. Of course the car can go fast with out nitrous oxide, but it goes even faster with it. Problem-nitrous is bad for the engine longevity. Using this anaolgy, that this "belief" in Ki could be bad for a human longevity? I mean hundreds of thousands of people have been practicing shinshin-toitsu aikido under Tohei for about 40 years or so. Don't you think if any one if them, even for a second, thought the 'ki' they practice fell within the 'Randi Challenge' criteria, one of them would have tried by now?Probably and failed-cause none of them came forth to shout "look at me-I proved it and am richer". Or did not attempt for had no means to prove it? Perhaps Ki is just another term for saying "mind over matter". Or getting "psyched up (or out)"

How about "kick em when they down"?

I was wondering any MP people would pick that up. RP had said this also in one of his concerts. Give you a hint on RP: "Macho Man!, I'll take that knife and shove it up your a$$! "Don't stand there and get beat or stabbed people-RUN" "Just RUN. RUN AWAY. Make a game of it-Beat your old lady to safety"