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what's the difference between san shou and pankration?

well, i've heard about some really tough black belt tests...In one style, students are required to attend "Discipline Camp", which is constant training for 24 hours. Then their black belt test is held at 12am the next day..Another school required their students to run a 10 kilometer run in less than one hour....Some schools make them do 100 pushups....All these methods are to test the "mental" ability of a student...It really makes you feel proud of your accomplishment, once you get your black-belt..HOwever, i'm not a huge fan of these one time "Mental" exercises...The test of a martial art's mental ability should be done throughout their progress from white belt to black-belt. Some schools emphasise testing the mental ablity of a student, while forgetting to test the technical aspect of a martial arts student. I believe a test should have a balance of physical, mental, intellectual...perhaps make them create their own techniques/forms and make them right essays, etc...

Yes i'm sure Kick chick.. It's true that a bagel helps you get to sleep. "Eat a light snack before bedtime. Bread and fruit will do nicely an hour or two before you hit the hay, says Sonia Ancoli-Israel, Ph.D., a psychologist and associate adjunct professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Diego, School of Medicine. So will a glass of warm milk. Avoid sugary snacks that can excite your system or heavy meals that can stress your body." Taken from: http://library.mothernature.com/bookstore/47/index.cfm?chp=84 "Midnight Snack: Have snack a hour before going to sleep. It should be one with a carbohydrate like toast, a bagel, muffin or cereal. Studies have proven these foods to create sleepiness. Don't make it too large and limit fluids to no later than a couple of hours before bed time. You don't want to be getting up from sleep to go to the bathroom. " Taken from http://www.families-first.com/hotflash/faq/goodsleep.htm

is this like mu thai kick-boxing??? could someone give me a better description of this art? thanks

pankration and juijitsu????

a bagel before bed, helps you to have a good nights rest.

I'm sure this question has been asked before! Can someone tell me the answer to this question? THanks

welcome!

thanks for all the feedback guys! But could somebody tell me if you do full contact or semi-contact sparring? and do you do continuous or point sparring?

I find that instructors new to the martial arts school business, tend to spar with their students... They have nothing to lose since most of their students are not as experienced as they are...It's good to see instructors participating actively in their student's martial arts learning......However as time goes on and when instructors have many qualified black-belts moving up to their 1st, 2nd, 3rd dans, instructors stop engaging in sparring...It may be because of their age, which may put a limit on their physically capabilities. BUT it also has to do with preserving their image....The reality is people with limited knowledge about martial arts are narrow minded and may lose confidence in their instructor if their instructor is defeated by a fellow classmate...I"m not justifying that the teacher that fought Tapout was correct in acting the way he did, but i'm just trying to shed light on a different perspective...It would of been right for the teacher that was defeated by Tapout, to modestly accept his defeat...However, let me ask you guys a question..How many of you will not lose confidence in your instructor, if your instructor got his butt whooped by a fellow classmate? I hope you answer no, 'cause sparring isn't the only measure of an instructor's abilities...HOw would you honestly feel?

kensai..wow..aikido involves breaking too???? I didn't know that..I thought it was just a soft-martial art that used opponents power or ki against them.

I've ran out of ideas for sparring exercises to do with my students...I try to introduce new exercises each class so my students don't get bored... When I teach sparring, I like to divide the class time into 3 segments...I first get my students to spar using just punches..Then I get my students to use only kicks. Finally, I get my students to put it all together by engaging in free-sparring using both hands and feet...By dividing it up into 3 parts, allows students to better focus on their weak points... Sometimes, I let my students spar using only the front hand..I call this "technique concentration", which allows them to improve using their front hand.. If I find that my students need to improve on their reaction techniques, I make them engage in one count sparring...(ONe person kicks, the other person blocks, then kicks, then the other person blocks..They don't stop until i say so....It's continuous based on reaction..) Anyway, how are your sparring classes taught? Give me some ideas for sparring exercises! [ This Message was edited by: koreantiger81 on 2002-08-03 04:18 ]

sentry....I know how you feel! I fell in love with tae kwon do reluctantly and by accident...There was no other school near my home..It worked out well for me! ..May I ask what style of martial art you're interested in?

excerion....The W.T.F does not "encourage" striking with the hands...Yes, you may score with the hands if you hit to the body;however, a point is highly unlikely.... Hmm..about the sidekick...I'm not too sure about gyms abolishing the side kick in tournaments......I know W.TF stylists love to use fast round kicks(turning kicks) and like to counter with a reverse back kick....Perhaps, the side kick is not preferred because it's hard to make a snap sound?(all strikes have to make a snaping sound; in order, for the points to be valid)...well, this is really my guess! I really don't know about gyms "abolishing the side kick.." which style of tae kwon do do you belong to? what kind of organization, exerion?

I"m an expert only in the korean martial arts of karate forums..Anyway, i'm wondering about judo and Brazilian juijitsu? In judo is it just all throws? in brazilian juititsu, do you ever throw? is it even legal in braz. juitsitu? can you punch in ju jit su....? can you use pressure points or joint locks in judo or ju jit su? someone give me an overview! thanks!! [ This Message was edited by: koreantiger81 on 2002-08-01 07:18 ]

yeah..the two videos are worthless....

ANY advice on how to CURE THIS!?

no prob sentry! I was just was recently introduced to the sine wave techqniue...Well, it's a springy motion that goes up and down to generate power using your weight...(only practiced by the official I.T.F) go here for more info..: http://www.karateforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=1876&forum=7 http://www.taekwondo.freeserve.co.uk/technical_explanations/explanation_of_sine_wave.htm

exerion..Thanks for your feedback! There's just a lot of rumours! I heard that General choi taught Jhoon Rhee the I.T.F forms at an airport... I would really like to find out the truth behind their connection, 'cause I do practice both styles...

The difference between the I.T.F and Jhoon rhee's system of tae kwon do, is essentially the forms...In the under-belt curriculum of Jhoon rhee's system of tae kwon do, there are only a few I.T.F forms.(practiced without the sine wave technique) After black-belt in Jhoon Rhee's system of tae kwon do, the forms are quite similiar, yet there is still no sine wave.... The two systems are similar in terms of having the same forms, but differ in their curriculum and the application of the sine wave technique in their forms...In addition, Jhoon Rhee's system of tae kwon do was first created to target north americans...That's all i know! hope it helped...

I know he developed his own system of tae kwon do, which i practice..HOwever, i want to know where he fits in TAe kwon do history..Was he a student of GEneral Choi???? There's really not enough information about their connection between each other... Jhoon rhee is considered the father of tae kwon do in the united states...I believe at one time, Jhoon rhee and General choi practiced the same or similiar form of tae kwon do?????I"m really not sure! i would like to find out! anyway, I believe General Choi was in charge way back in the early years of tae kwon do...General's choi's goal was to spread tae kwon do worldwide...I believe Jhoon rhee was shared this same goal or was asked by general choi to go to the states..I don't know! my guess..anyway, Jhoon rhee modified or included or added on GEneral's choi's I.T.F system.... I can't even find jHoon rhee's name in the Tae kwon do history books...Any thoughts on their connection? [ This Message was edited by: koreantiger81 on 2002-08-01 05:43 ]

I"m not sure, but I believe Jhoon Rhee was first certified by General Choi.?????????(i really dont know!, just my guess) Once he left Korea to spread Tae kwon do, he developed his own system of tae kwon do. "Jhoon Rhee's system of Tae kwon do" Also known as Korean Karate. Since he created this system of Tae kwon do, I believe he is a 10th degree in his own system.. What I really want to know is how Jhoon Rhee is connected with General Choi.....There's not too much information on Jhoon Rhee on the net..It's also rare to find information on Jhoon rhee's relationship with General Choi.. [ This Message was edited by: koreantiger81 on 2002-08-01 05:25 ]

Nice thread XpOiSoN FrEeX! That's right you have to be C lear L oud A s an order P auses go here for my thread on instructor styles: http://www.karateforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=2935&forum=7&4 http://www.karateforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=2936&forum=7&14 anyway, i've trained and still am training under many different instructors and I am an instructor myself...I believe the role of the instructor is to critique each student, set goals for each student, discipline, and maintain or heighten the interest of their students The most common complaint that I have with instructors who don't know how to teach is that they don't give each student enough personal attention. They constantly drill their students..The students go home learning that they have increased their fitness level! I believe in constant constructive critisim...extreme multiple critism is not recommended, since you'll give your students too much to absorb! I concentrate on one simple technique for the whole class..When I teach forms(katas, patterns), i Don't teach them all of it in one class..I teach it in bits and pieces...Once they get the hang of it, i explain the purpose of the movements...I find some instructors try to teach the whole form in one class!!! A BIG MISTAKE!!! That'll just frustrate students and will bore them to death...Especially for young children, it really doesn't make sense to cram them with so much info all in one class...Teaching should be done step by step, not all in one big step.. .Once class comes to a near, I sit everyone down and check each of my students one by one...I give them one or two suggestions or goals, to better their technique..(remember giving too much suggestions will frustrate them..)I believe this is probably the most crucial part of their martial arts learning...Giving attention to each student in the class is important. Another pet peeve I have is having all ranks in one class doing the same technique...I know small schools don't have a choice to have a class with different ranks; however, having the red belt do a front kick a million times with the white belts, will just bore them!!! Why not give something more challenging to the higher ranks to spark their interest, while the white belts do the front kick? Lastly, the worst thing is having a higher belt student teach a lower belt.. "YOu can be a good martial artist, but that doesnt' mean you can be a good teacher." [ This Message was edited by: koreantiger81 on 2002-08-01 03:40 ]

Yes, excerion i guess it depends on who you ask! I practice both styles, I.t.f and W.T.F...however, I warn ya, that I might be biased, 'cause my main foundation is in the I.T.F..(Jhoon Rhee's version) Anyway, I like the I.T.F 'cause the forms are more interesting. I like learning joint lock technqiues too...Upright sparring is complete, 'cause you can use both hands and feet..(semi-contact)....Overall, the I.T.F is more martial arts and self-defense orientated. With the W.T.F, learning joint locks is not in their official curriculum..(some schools will teach them, but not all) In my own personal opinion, the forms in the W.T.F bore me....Overall, the W.T.F is more sports orientated...Improving sparring for competition is the goal of the W.T.F. I like sparring in the W.T.F,' cause hitting full contact gives me a huge adrenaline rush...MY only complaint about W.t.F sparring is that mainly kicking is emphasized...PUnching is not encouraged and usually you can't score with punches in a match. It's hella easy to spar if you only have to worry about two legs, rather than two legs and two arms...However, it's a sport, so that's the way it is...Just like soccer or basketball...In both sports you're playing with a ball, but you kick it in one sport and dribble it in another. The W.T.F has made rules to "emphasize" kicking over punching, 'cause it's a sport like any other. People diss the W.T.F 'cause they evaluate all martial arts based on their "self-defense" capablity...In my opinion, I say the W.T.F is a awesome sport..It wouldn't be inappropriate to evaluate it as a self-defense art. Anyway, click on these links for more info. http://www.karateforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=2398&forum=7&13 http://www.karateforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=1712&forum=7&2