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Don't know jiyong. His ad no longer runs in the yellow pages. There was a thread on his school here awhile back. I think maybe he closed the school down.

Umm...say huh with the what now?

No. I dont agree. Training with an unpredictable partner is sure to lead to substantial injury. At our school at least, we don't tell our opponent what technique we are going to use but once we start the technique we allow them to go down. When they get back up we move on to other techniques. But if I were to say we are gonna do 5 outer wrist locks in a row and then after number three I did a flying scissor sweep a person may indeed mis the cue and get hurt.

Ok and what about people that want to learn to defend themselves who arent in the Fijian special forces?

Sounds like needlessly harmful practice H2. The point of practicing is to get good. Not kill your partner. If you are honestly saying you would change techniques midfall to injure your partner then your school is certainly one I would not be attending.

Yes in essence Goju. There is a big brouhaha currently in the WTF to see how they can get judges to start scoring punches more and not just the kicks. Personally I'm wondering if they can somehow rig up a wireless electronic hogu...maybe like what they have in Fencing...that would automatically score the points.

Ninja, perhaps the reason you dont regret it is that you didnt damage the knee further and passed your test. Now had you blown it out while training for your test... and damaged your knee permanently AND not gotten to test I think you would have regretted very much not having taken care of it before hand.

Goju the problem with the wtf sparring is that the judges dont score punches to the body, even though they are supposed to, and punches to the head even if you pull them are not allowed, so people have gotten out of the habit of throwing them or even defending from them. However, in traditional tkd hand strikes are balanced with the legs. The same I would say would be true of hapkido sparring...unless of course its hapkido taught at a WTF dojang...in which case they may follow wtf rules for forms sake.

Goju you are completely incorrect in your assessment of tkd and hkd sparring...BOTH employ hand techniques and kicks during sparring.

I don't do KSW...but I have a big mouth so I will answer anyway. As someone that reads alot about sports injuries all I can say is what are you THINKING? There is no choice...you should DEFINITELY be getting your knee fixed immediately...then rest it and do light therapy. If you continue along your current path you may not get to test for your black belt...you may not ever be able to work out again.

Well I can only say what I've seen of Muay Thai on television and in books...and it seems to be basically full contact kickboxing with knees and elbows. Hapkido is generally not full contact however...it focuses more directly on self defense. Most HKD schools teach extensive one steps...and usually mix it in with straight SD getting out of bear hugs wrist grabs chokes stuff like that. HKD also covers as Zapatista stated several zones. Striking, grappling, standing and on the ground. However most HKD dojangs dont teach ground stuff like BJJ its more like how to get an opponent off you while on the ground. Hope this helps.

Your country being vietnam or mexico?

Man you really need to work on the sense of humor. Anyway from what I could find Indochina is named such because its indian chinese. Other than that I dont know...you can always look around Wikipedia.

Oy, NM...remind me not to tell any more jokes on the forum. You see they couldnt name it French Mexico...because there was already a country named Mexico.

Because Mexico was already taken?

The french occupied the peninsula from about the 1850's til WW2 when the Japanese took control. Then after WW2 the French tried to reestablish control but were eventually thrown out by Vietnamese forces.

Well theres a reason why the country used to be called French Indochina.

But of course the Vietnamese were ruled by the French for a long time. They should be excellent speakers.

There's nothing wrong with reading up on your art. Just make sure when you go to class you do it HIS way and don't say "Oh, but this book I bought says to do the kick like this and this and they pronounce the words differently." Anyhoo, one of the best TKD books on the market right now is Marc Tedeschi's monster volume of TKD. It's called Tae Kwon Do: Traditions, Philosophies, Techniques. He also has a companion volume to that with detailed analysis of all of the WTF forms. Don't know if you do those or not. Those are expensive books but well worth it.

Well ScotnShelly I think the founder going to prison for tax fraud and the fact that they institute a policy of exclusion of outsiders are a couple. Here are some links on Oom Yung Doe. http://www.rickross.com/groups/chung.html http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/c/chung/ http://www.urbin.net/EWW/MA/cmd-tax.html There are many many websites on it if you want to do a search.

Oom Yong Do is a cult. They taught bad techniques. If you do a search for Oom Yong Do or Chung Moo Doe and cult you will find out whats going on. This was awhile back so for all I know they have changed the curriculum. However their main site still shows the grandmaster doing a flying side kick off a 10 story building.

To be brutally honest with you...I think there are really only two types of unarmed MA in Korea. TKD and HKD...and everything is related to one of those two types.

No this is something else...and for the life of me I cant remember the name. Dana Abbott had an article in the new issue of Black Belt magazine about it. They use foam covered weapons to start teaching swordplay to children at a younger age than they would be able to with kendo. Oh I know its called Chanbara. It's getting big quick as a competitive sport.

I picked doesn't matter...but with a caveat. My father studied TKD under a guy from Korea. One of the problems they had was linguistics. For instance alot of the students had trouble telling if the instructor wanted them to be firm or wanted good form...apparently he pronounced those two words very similarly. Also there may be a culture gap...for instance Korean culture and perhaps asian culture in general tends to favor brutal training and standing under running water to build concentration and physical endurance. Many americans would probably find they dont like this type of training and could do better with another form. Just my 2 cents. Oh and on what Thug said. Koreans tend to be very cliqueish and tend to favor other Koreans. This is Korea Koreans I'm talking about now not American Koreans. This has been seen to be proven in many international competitions. Americans probably do the same thing to an extent, but since there are more ethnicities and cultures here its probably alot less obvious that we are doing it.

I always viewed reacting to techniques like this: You can be ahead of the technique You can be at the technique or You can be behind the technique What I mean is you can take your fall before it gets to be too much pain...you can take it exactly as the throw or lock is applied...or you can wait too long and very possibly get hurt. As I am very overweight I tend to fall behind if I try to stay with the technique...so usually once I find that they are doing it in the right place I just go ahead and take the fall. Perhaps this will help you to figure out why advanced belts never seem to get hurt.