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kosotogari is a sweep. Gake is blocking. Ogoshi the hips are square, sleeve hand pulling, lapel hand released and engaging the back. Harai goshi the sleeve pulls. Lapel side can grip on the back like ogoshi, stay on the lapel or cross over to same side grip. This becomes more of yamarashi. The footwork for harai is not square but rather forms a crossing T. The hips are also not engaged square but rather half and perpendicular. With the pull of the sleeve, push from the lapel the opponent is pivoted around the half engaged hip. Putting the leg out wheels the person over. If you are using the leg to sweep on the retreat it is classified as osoto gari.

My attitude when I first started martial arts is that a black belt should be really tough to achieve. Not so, it is a beginner belt and should not be impossible to earn. That being said, I don't think there should be jr. blackbelts. Just have one standard. For the comments on Japan - I can't speak for all martial arts, but the training for high school judo for instance is very intense. Kids train 5-6 days a week all year for 3-5 hours a day. What is the typical attendance in a western school? 2-3 days at 1-3 hours a day? That's why it takes so long to get a black belt in the west.

Dropping into a single might work. It is also a ripe invitation to launch you with uchimata. Straight arms create distance. Simply turn in for a seionage. Keep in mind your opponent is strong in direction parallel to the arms. If you turn your body perpendicular you can move in for throws like osotogari.

1. Yes judo is effective. It contains throwing techniques that utilize all parts of the body. It has submission techniques that choke or attack the joints. You also learn how to pin an opponent. You do not need a judogi to practice a majority of the techniques. 2. Judo. The standup skills in judo are superior to BJJ and will give you a higher chance of putting the opponent down. In my experience, clubs tend to be 70/30 standup/ground. You might find the odd one that is 60/40, 50/50. Even with 30% ground work, you'll have pins, armlocks and chokes. That is more than enough to deal with the average person.

Do you have a source for the relationship between judo and karate? While Kano incorporated techniques from various sources, I am having a hard time seeing the karate. Even our atemiwaza draws from our jujutsu heritage. As for the original question, martial arts are classified due to their main focus. Judo focuses on grappling. We have atemiwaza in our kata and even knife, sword, stick and laughably even pistol defense. It would be foolish to count those techniques anywhere near the proficiency of our core training. Similarily, that is why karate is considered a striking art.

You don't. They come large and when you wash them they shrink. If you want to minimize the shrinkage, use cold water and hang dry. Definitely wash your belt! It collects sweat from working out. If you grapple, groundfight it will pick up dust and dirt as well as the sweat of others. On rare occasion, you might get blood on it. Don't throw your belt in with your dogi as it will stain it.

Karate adopted the coloured belt system from judo. Judoka wash their belts because they get dirty from ground fighting, taking grip on the belt and from sweat. A coloured belt doesn't look dirty but one sniff will indicate otherwise. While other martial arts might not ground fight, they do sweat. Even situps and stretching on the ground will eventually transfer any foot sweat or dirt despite regular floor washing. The original question asked about belt washing. It is valid for hygiene. Do you wash your uniform -same thing.

When your uniform is dirty, wash it. Since your belt is part of your uniform, wash it when it is dirty. Two things that wear out your uniform quickly are bleaching and putting it in the dryer. Use stain cleansers like shout as soon as possible and wash after each use of the uniform. I own five, basically one for every practice of the week. If you plan on staying with your art for a while, the convinence is definitely worth it.

Unknownstyle, Could you please expand on why BJJ is more practical?

Thubs, The technique is called sankaku jime in judo. In competition you must trap an arm of else it is considered just a leg scissors and you will be stood up for safety reasons.

While many BJJ schools do no-gi, gi and nhb the classes are run on different days or times of the day. A lot of students either don't want some of the components or can't make certain days. There are some good strikers and takedown artists in BJJ clubs for people that devote time to it. On average, BJJ striking is no better than judo in my experience.

shogeri, I'm not sure how you classify evolution for aikido and regression for judo. There a couple of major reasons why the various ryuha of jujutsu have been cut down to their sparse existance. Judo is a big one. Judo did not bring much new to the martial arts as Kano created it from his jujutsu experience. Even his incorporation of full resistance training was not new. He did however modify and incorporate that method across the teachings of judo. That combined with mutual benefit and maximum efficiency make judo greater than the sum of it's parts. Even BJJ which is based off judo has helped quash jujutsu in the west where they surived after being antiquated in Japan.

I'll try to be polite about this, but name droping from either of us would be futile. BJJ is a very young martial art so any black belt will have an impressive lineage. Unless your classes are 4 hours long, 25 classes a stripe and 100 a belt is really low. By that standard even if you went casually at twice a week you'd be a purple in 2 years +- a couple of months! When people decide they want to do a grappling martial art they don't realize how tough it is. The dropout rates are enormous . However running a school you need to pay the bills and most of it comes from the numerous lower belts. This is perhaps something that is counted on by instructors -not many will make it up the ranks. Holding them longer in higher ranks doesn't matter because they are the more dedicated ones. A few comments on your routine. While rolling does take a certain level of fitness, conditioning should never be a big part of the lesson - that is something you do outside of class. Sometimes I do it on my own, sometimes I join with classmates. This keeps it varied and fresh. I'm glad you are able to drill with your brother who sounds as dedicated as you. However, with respect if you are not even at blue belt level there is defintely a dillution of techniques as you try to teach them. At a club I can drill and be corrected by an instructor which I feel is a more efficient use of my time. Also a club offers many different body types, sizes and strategies. It's refreshing to use all technique on someone that is 80 lbs lighter or to see if you can survive the onslaught of a 300lb man determined to twist your arm off! I'm sure it's similar at your club because in mine I can square off against accomplished wrestlers, judoka, pure bjj and so on - it is different every practice. As for your final comment - why are you studying bjj? If I want to get better at bjj, I study bjj. If I want to advance faster, I train longer and harder. That kills the components of skill, experience and to a degree conditioning. Heart, either you have it or you don't it's not a skill. The techniques of bjj are no secret as any judoka, jujutsuka would tell you. Even look at ancient pankrationists and you will see the secret bjj techniques. Despite talent, good learners etc, all people good at something have something in common - hard work

Blue belt is the thanks for showing up belt. Basically if you come 3-4 times a week, pay attention and get better you should have one in a year or two. After that, it's going to be about 2 years or more a belt. There are no tests. You drill, roll, compete and eventually teach a little to demonstrate your skills. 100 classes, I can see for a pretty mediorce blue. There is no way you have enough mat time for a purple after 200 total classes.

In the UK? Not quite down the street from me! I suggest telephone book or search engine. Better yet, you've listed judo so you can address your neck crank questions to your coach. I'm sure you have an affiliation which gives you access to other instructors. They might have the background or know of people that can cater to your training needs.

They haven't been used in randori or shiai for many decades. Many jujutsu schools are run by judo teachers that have phased in the more dangerous techniques. You might have better luck in that type of environment.

I believe he is asking about attacks on the neck, not throwing someone by the neck. An example is kubi-hishigi (can opener). See more here http://judoinfo.com/kubiwaza.htm Attacks for me in order of importance are osaekomi, kansetsu/shime, and lastly kubiwaza. BTW, Koshiguruma is a hip technique not a neck throw.

If you blatantly do them in shiai you will be issued hansokumake and you will lose the match. From Section 27 30b of the IJF rules (30) To make any action which may endanger or injure the opponent especially the opponent's neck or spinal vertebrae, or may be against the spirit of Judo. http://www.ijf.org/rule/rule_referee.php?Code=2#Prohibitedactsandpenalties In general they are not practiced in randori and that is something you need to work out with your coach.

I think that can be said of many martial arts. There are strength in numbers. BJJ for SD has the mindset to finish fast. Judo by it's nature goes for a fast finish. A drill I've done is where you are surrounded by 4 or more people who come in sequentially. You have to throw them quickly and address each new threat. This is repeated for a few minutes at a time . A variation, more joking around is everyone jumps on the centre guy. Facing off experienced grapplers defeat is inevitiable. Less skilled practioners are dispatched at a more managable rate. The missing part for judoka is the lack of live striking incorporated. Rudiments of striking and weapons are relegated to kata. While kata can be learned very early there is no jump to randori (live sparring) for these techniques. This clip does sum up how I feel about my clubmates. It's like a family...which constantly throws, strangles, and joint locks each other at every chance. You've bolded sporting like it is a dirty word. Many sports I'd not want to be on the recieving end of the trained techniques. Kick boxing, boxing, wrestling, pistol/rifle shooting, archery and yes even TKD. Sporting does not mean two people square off at 25 paces, witnesses in hand and take turns exchanging techniques. Points are awarded for succesful techniques. Also, yes you can get disqualified for intentionally hurting your opponent. Walking up to your opponent and kicking him straight in the groin is a no no but there is no rule in SD that says I can't do that. Besides, do you deliberately harm your training partners? What I take away from a sports format is that I can apply gripping techniques, evasion, throwing, hold downs and submissions at full force all day long if I want to. At 170 lbs I've escaped from under 300 lb monsters and gone on to sub them. When I started judo I was easily tossed around by 100 lb girls. I see great advantage in these techniques in defeating aggressors. It is safe and repeatable and I know I can and have used it outside the competition format. Statistically the throw has the majority of wins. You either get thrown cleanly or you don't. There is still a large portion (~25-30% need to look up the numbers) won by the other methods. Training for competition you don't just throw a person down. You throw and transition to pin or sub. It's all about chain attacks. Out of those 5 areas I'd condense it to 3. Striking = kicking. Lock = sub giving striking, throw, and sub. Striking BJJ is slightly ahead because they are imbedded in nhb mentality. However the training of striking is gained through cross training which a judoka can easily do as well. Throwing, takedowns bjj is one of the worst of the grappling arts. BJJ is ahead for subs in the number of techniques and general integration on the ground. However, judo groundwork is very explosive and quick which is more than enough to deal with most SD situations.

Judo has an excellent arsenal of throwing techniques. Strangulation, armlocks both standing and grounded. Pins, reversals give you a better chance at revcovering or maintaining a superior position. BJJ adds the study of leglocks, spinelocks and overall has a better fluidity to the ground game. A lot of schools will bring in specialists to teach wrestling, boxing etc. Unfortunately these takedown, striking skills take lots of practice to get a good base proficiency. Due to the nature of the curiculum I don't see many getting these skills without regular outside training. Keep in mind that the techniques in BJJ and Judo are almost identical due to lineage. The statement of learning both ground and standup is one that I agree with but in reality schools do not teach 50/50. I think the Judo division of standup and groundwork is more useful for SD.

Various jujutsu were combined into judo. Judo gave rise to BJJ and Sambo. Overtime each division incorporated different strategies leading to different strengths. GJJ is a trademark. As an art GJJ=BJJ. UFC was created by the Gracies to showcase GJJ. Once everyone saw Royce in there cleaning up everyone jumped on the jiujitsu bandwagon. Sambo has a small following and it is all overseas in Russia/eastern European countries. UFC draws more on the north american pool where BJJ is popular.

I’d say within six to 12 months of training 6-10 hours a week you’d possess against resisting opponents: Basic competency -shoulder, wrist, arm locking techniques on the ground -leg locking techniques -hold downs, escapes, reversals Laughable -spine/neck cranks, body locks -takedowns -punching and kicking -defense against punching, kicking, weapons That is along the lines of commitment for BJJ as a primary art (unless you have time for privates and afternoon classes). However, you are suggesting minimum effort with an attitude that is already resentful to this type of training. In time you might gain a few tricks here and there like some sloppy chokes and armbars, but no appreciable skill. Why not build on your years of wrestling training? I see most of wrestling being able to carry over to useful self defense. Take the conditioning, takedowns, explosiveness, sharpen up your striking and you should be all right standing and downed.

actually he wanted 99 bucks a month. That's even on the steep side for training with a brown belt.

Sure go slow at first, that's how we learn techniques. Drill them, do them while you brush your teeth, while you shower, in your sleep. The problem I see is that you never fully execute a highly damaging move like a breaking throw. You'll always be left thinking what should happen, but will it? What would be more useful is something you can practice at full force all the time. If I execute a shoulder throw with an elbow break, I throw my partner twice, once per arm maybe every six months full force. If i don't break the arm, provided the partner knows a shred of ukemi, I can still do slow half entries and full throws till I exhaust my self - all day if i had the stamina. Say my partner gets a shoulder injury, okay sit out a month and a half, that is still way more than the breaking method. That's how you work on your form, by doing what you intend to do. Look at fencing, judo, bjj, wrestling, boxing, muay thai, contact tkd and karate. Lots of full speed training with non-cooperative partners. Talking about adrenaline, try doing a technique when you have the shakes, so excited that you can hear your heart. To each his own, you can half practice a technique all you like, I'd stick with something that I have actually done.

Go with the momentum and you will land in side control or mount, if you so desire standup on the exit. You can only go so far doing static or slow speed practice. You will never get the feel for the final execution in terms of flow or explosiveness. Final question - yes. Try throwing someone that is actively resisting, it won't look pretty unless there is a big skill difference. Why spend loads of time making it theoretically perfect in a manner that you will never use it in.