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At the core, imho, a punch is just a punch, etc. Outside of the envelope, things change/evolve/transition/transform/etc from what is found at the core of any martial art technique. They say that change is inevitable, true, however, is that for everything or just some things? I'd say, in the martial arts, it's some things because at times, practitioners aren't willing to adapt/change/etc self and/or any said technique because they don't want to and/or they don't know how to.

I'm very sad for the victim. Mr. Cook, while he's an exceptional karateka, it would now appear that his teaching/writing career has come to a screeching halt.

Yeah, I agree with JustceZero...just start. Whenever I hear that people don't have time for class/training, I sort of chuckle. Why? If one would total the time that one's doing absolutely nothing during the awakened day, one would be sure to find that they have more time to devote to the martial arts then they truly imagined. A lot of classes only last 1 hour. 1 hour times 3 days a week equals to 3 hours a day. Now, if you add driving time and the little time spent at the dojo before and after class, maybe that comes to 4 hours a week. But, don't forget training/practicing. Lets add 6 hours a week for training/practicing. Now we're up to 10 hours a week, to be honest, 10 hours isn't a lot, nor a reason to not start. That's my opinion.

I'd summit this question to Jeffrey, who's, imho, our resident Kitchen Kata expert...Jeffrey, could you help tkdkid123?

If I remember correctly, the number 9 is quite significant/important to the Korean's. It makes since that the ATA would honor that by having a 9 belt system. Yes, Bob, that is correct. The ATA did a lot of things with the number nine, like the number of colored belt forms, the first one having 18 moves, 1st dan having 81 moves, and things like that. They wanted to do Korean cultural symbolism and the like.Doesn't the Songahm Star also reflect the number 9 very well? One has to respect that, and surely do. 81 moves in a form is a lot. Gojushiho only has 54 steps, as the name implies, and in many, many Karate styles, Gojushiho is their longest kata.

I think that Dembe is as about raw as any martial art can be; no external pretty fringes, just right to the point of the matter.

What I know about JKD, as a JKD practitioner, could be put in a small thimble. Having said that, when I hear "discard and use what's useful" I think it's a wise thing, but it's not always a permanent thing because as we mature as martial artists, we can now use what was once discarded before. I'll be as bold to say this...Bruce left way too soon, and in that, I believe that every practitioner of the martial arts is stuck, from time to time, on assuming just exactly what Bruce meant.

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Thanks Patrick for all of the information. I didn't understand some of it, but that's ok...I'm a student of computer-do too. As far as the quality, when Jeffrey and I did a video chat yesterday...I thought the quality across the board was right on spot. What did you think Jeffrey? Yeah, Danielle, I saw that on Skype, but I've not as of yet used it, maybe I better, huh? I sure wouldn't hurt. Thanks Danielle and Patrick!!

Can't say as I recall it either, Bob. I do think I've heard of it before. Is that not "Hwarang Do" Close, but Hwarang Do translates into "The Way Of The Flowering Knights". However, I was a jbb when I first heard it and I could've replaced "Knights" with "Hand". Of course, there is the fact that I'm much older and my memory isn't what it use to be. Ah ok. Knew it had the flowering part in there. "Hwa"-something then Maybe "Hwa-Soo Do" as I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the "soo" part of Tang Soo Do and Kong Soo Do is "hand". Oooohhhh, I like that, and it bears on me to do some quick little research. Danielle, great point!!

I don't know, but, aren't we now possibly entering into some semantics over the word..."belong"? Semantics are akin to one not seeing the forest because of the trees. Also, couldn't the word "belong" in this thread be based on ones feelings? Just thinking out loud.

In my opening post, I've just edited a sentence so that the sentence expressed my true feelings... Original sentence... "Other experts in his field could learn a lot from Patrick, and if I was to enter into that field, Patrick would be my first and last choice." Edited sentence... "Other experts in his field could learn a lot from Patrick, and if I was to enter into that field, Patrick would be my first and last choice to learn from."

Imho, whatever "it" is that one trains in at that moment, then that one is of "that" style. One can not practice the martial arts without belonging to "that" style(s).

No matter the "hat" that I'm wearing...I've always trained quite a lot. Not because I have to, but because I want to... *When I ran my own dojo's: 6 days a week from 10am - 10pm. *When I became Kaicho/Chief Instructor of our Hombu: 6 days a week from 5am - 11pm. *When I briefly retired from our Hombu: 6 days a week, three times a day, NO SUNDAYS [Wife rule, not mine]. Morning: 5am - 7am, Afternoons: 11am - 2pm, Evenings before dinner: 5pm - 6pm *When I was re-elected Kaicho: When I was a home, I'd train 5 days a week from 12pm - 5pm. When I'm at the Hombu: 6 days a week from 5am - 11pm I suppose I'm cheating here. Why? There are a massive amount of times that I'm in a teaching mode. It's in between those classes I find the time to train, but for the most, I'm teaching. Still, I would train 5-6 days a week.

How can I not belong to a style(s)?

Can't say as I recall it either, Bob. I do think I've heard of it before. Is that not "Hwarang Do" Close, but Hwarang Do translates into "The Way Of The Flowering Knights". However, I was a jbb when I first heard it and I could've replaced "Knights" with "Hand". Of course, there is the fact that I'm much older and my memory isn't what it use to be.

Thanks Jay, I appreciate it. I'm glad to know that you really enjoyed the proof on the floor segment...it's something I live by. I felt that my guest spot was fine, even though I felt it a bit disjointed at times. That's probably because that was my very first live interview...I was pretty nervous. The LiveStream was pretty interesting and quite fun...I loved the entire experience. Thanks for sharing this, Bob. I think its great. I also enjoyed your explanation of "the proof is on the floor." I know you have an article on it, but an article can't relate the expressions one gives when actually speaking. And by the way, your interview was pretty good, I though. Thanks Brian! And you're right. It's one thing to read an article, but it can be something quite different when one hears the author of said article speak about it during a live interview, like mine. Retrospectively, I agree with you. I also thought the the interview was pretty good, minus my being so nervous I seemed to struggle to get out a simple word or sentence....sheech, I'm such a dork at times! Still, thanks Brian for conducting my interview, it was an honor!!

If I remember correctly, the number 9 is quite significant/important to the Korean's. It makes since that the ATA would honor that by having a 9 belt system.

Yeah...what the 3 posters above me said...I concur with ps1, JusticeZero, and Tallgeese.

I was also noticing that Skype has a business conference program that can hold up to 10 people. That's intense. I haven't found out its price yet.

Danielle, That way to cool that you've got the tickets you wanted, and that you're going. I'm a twinged bit jealous! You're going to have so much fun there. Not only to see the Olympics, but to sight see all over London. Wait...I'm a twinged bit jealous...again. Just kidding...Have a lot of fun there.

Congrats!!!!!!!

Shindokan Lineage: Satunuku "Tode" Sakugawa (1733 - 1815) Sokon "Bushi" Matsumura (1797 - 1889) Anko Itosu (1830 - 1915) Shigekazu Ishikawa (1864 - 1959) (Shuri-te) Choshu Saitou (1865 - 1962) From Sakugawa Sensei DOWN to Saitou Sensei, I don't personally know if this is accurate or not for myself. Why? I wasn't there because I wasn't alive yet. However, I've got to trust and believe that my Soke and Dai-Soke are telling me the truth; and I do believe them. Just how many styles use the TOP THREE all of the time? A lot.

Thank you. I loved listening to you and hearing about the topics you addressed as well. Please don't get mad at me, but, I love your accent!

I just can't remember the style, I thought it was Tang Soo Do, but I doubt that, but the translation was... The Way Of The Flowering Hand Anyone ever hear of that one?