On 7/28/2026 at 3:47 AM, KarateKen said:

The NFL draft is basically a crapshoot. Remember 1998? There was much debate about who should be picked first, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf. Coming out of college these two were seen as almost equal talents. One went on to the Hall of Fame, winning five MVPs along with two Super Bowl rings. The other started 21 games, had four career wins, threw 36 interceptions, and had a completion percentage of under 50 percent for his career. Manning had 539 career TD passes. Leaf had 317 career completions. Manning is by all accounts one of the best QBs in history. Leaf is by all accounts one of the biggest busts in history.

I do remember the debate over those two. They were both highly touted. I think evaluation has gotten better over time, but in the end, as Marty Schottenheimer was known to say, your drafting a 22 year old kid that now has more money at his fingertips than he's likely every had before (exception, Johnny Manziel), and you just don't know how it's going to affect that person. Of course now you have colleges paying the players, so they get exposed to that kind of thing before they get to the league (some of them, anyway).

I think the other big factor is that even in the college level, some of these guys are just so much better than their college counterparts. In the NFL, that goes away. I remember a training camp story told by Mark "Stink" Schlereth where some kid from the SEC was raising a ruckus in camp about "that's SEC football!" after doing something he thought was pretty spectacular. Then Stink lined up on him and basically blocked him off the field and proceeded to tell him "if that's SEC football, I'll take that all day" or something of that nature. The league has a way of balancing things out.

I think biggest bust in history has to be JaMarcus Russell, drafted by the Raiders in 2007.

Body camera footage of Tony Romo being arrested has been posted online. Romo was arrested in Wisconsin on July 23 for operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Romo refused a breathalyzer and was arrested after doing the field sobriety tests. He reportedly had an open bottle of alcohol in the car. Romo was released after being arrested and is scheduled for court in September.

22 hours ago, KarateKen said:

Body camera footage of Tony Romo being arrested has been posted online. Romo was arrested in Wisconsin on July 23 for operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Romo refused a breathalyzer and was arrested after doing the field sobriety tests. He reportedly had an open bottle of alcohol in the car. Romo was released after being arrested and is scheduled for court in September.

In Wisconsin, drivers lose their driving privileges when they refuse a breathalyzer. He’s going to need a driver to get to anywhere.

On 7/29/2026 at 2:05 AM, bushido_man96 said:

I think biggest bust in history has to be JaMarcus Russell, drafted by the Raiders in 2007.

Russell was an absolute bust and is definitely in the conversation. Might very well be the biggest bust in history. I believe he was a first overall selection as well. A bad pick like that can set the franchise back years. Maye the Raiders made a better selection with their #1 overall QB this season.

It is not just quarterbacks who are busts, though they get most of the attention. Lawrence Phillips was a running back out of Nebraska who was selected in the top ten and was discussed as a possible #1 overall pick (it ended up being Keshawn Johnson) but Phillips dropped in part because of off the field issues. Phillips struggled on the field with inconsistent play and was out of the league after a few seasons. He was even worse off the field where he had a laundry list of legal problems including arrests for domestic violence and stealing a car. He died in prison ten years ago.

Another Raiders bust was WR Henry Ruggs. Ruggs was a first round pick in 2020 who only played 20 games and had less than 1200 career receiving yards. In 2021 he was cut by the Raiders after he drove drunk and caused an accident that killed another driver in Las Vegas. Ruggs was convicted of felony manslaughter and is serving time in a Nevada prison.

Vernon Gholston was a top ten (top six I think) pick by the Jets who was a highly ranked DE and LB from Ohio State. He was a massive bust who was out of the league after three seasons. He averaged less than one tackle a game for his career. In those years with the Jets, he recorded 0 sacks, 0 fumbles, 0 recovered fumbles, and 0 interceptions.

Edited July 31Jul 31 by KarateKen

On 7/30/2026 at 1:51 PM, sensei8 said:

In Wisconsin, drivers lose their driving privileges when they refuse a breathalyzer. He’s going to need a driver to get to anywhere.

He's probably wishing he had done that last week.

Just as a fun fact it was a year ago today, I quit energy drinks, having my final one at Lambeau Field in Green Bay. Yes, that is in Wisconsin. To date it is my only time at Lambeau. My first time at Lambeau and my last time having an energy drink both in the same moment.

49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan was injured in a car accident recently. He suffered a concussion, broken nose, three broken ribs, a broken hand, and needed 40 stiches. Shanahan admitted fault, saying he was distracted while driving, admitting he had dropped his cell phone and was looking for it instead of being focused on the road. The other driver was a 21-year-old woman who suffered minor injuries. Her name and injuries have not been released. Shanahan has been an observer at practice and will return to his full coaching roles once he has recovered from the injuries.

Lots of questions as to why it took so long for this story to be reported. The accident happened July 14, yet ESPN sat on the story for almost two weeks before reporting it. Now many questions are coming up about the integrity of ESPN and how they will cover the NFL. Earlier this year the NFL obtained 10% ownership in ESPN, and concerns about how that would impact the coverage immediately arose. Now we have a controversy about it. With public trust of the media being at an all-time low, anytime there is a story that doesn't feel right there will be an uproar among people saying it is a cover up, not true, or whatever. This situation is too long for me to write about here, I encourage you to look into it if interested, but I think there are valid reasons to be suspicious, including an early report that the other driver was a fault, which was later changed.

On 7/30/2026 at 3:51 PM, sensei8 said:

In Wisconsin, drivers lose their driving privileges when they refuse a breathalyzer. He’s going to need a driver to get to anywhere.

There is likely a process he can go through to contest everything. In the state of Kansas, we have the civil side, which affects driving privileges, and the criminal side, and both are handled separately. I wonder if Wisconsin has a similar process. At any rate, I'm sure he can afford a driver, and he likely won't see any jail time out of the deal. His attorney will likely cost him more than the fines he'd pay.

On 7/31/2026 at 1:28 AM, KarateKen said:

It is not just quarterbacks who are busts, though they get most of the attention. Lawrence Phillips was a running back out of Nebraska who was selected in the top ten and was discussed as a possible #1 overall pick (it ended up being Keshawn Johnson) but Phillips dropped in part because of off the field issues. Phillips struggled on the field with inconsistent play and was out of the league after a few seasons. He was even worse off the field where he had a laundry list of legal problems including arrests for domestic violence and stealing a car. He died in prison ten years ago.

I remember Phillips, and is subsequent arrest for domestic violence. It sounded like he was not a good person. Too bad he had to die in prison.

CBS has placed Tony Romo on leave "until further notice." JJ Watt will be taking over the job until/if Romo returns to the network. If Romo were to be fired he could lose the rest of the money on his contract, over 70 million dollars, according to Yahoo sports. That is an expensive DUI. Romo is scheduled in court on September 21.

Edited August 6Aug 6 by KarateKen

On 8/3/2026 at 10:29 PM, KarateKen said:

49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan was injured in a car accident recently. He suffered a concussion, broken nose, three broken ribs, a broken hand, and needed 40 stiches. Shanahan admitted fault, saying he was distracted while driving, admitting he had dropped his cell phone and was looking for it instead of being focused on the road. The other driver was a 21-year-old woman who suffered minor injuries. Her name and injuries have not been released. Shanahan has been an observer at practice and will return to his full coaching roles once he has recovered from the injuries.

Lots of questions as to why it took so long for this story to be reported. The accident happened July 14, yet ESPN sat on the story for almost two weeks before reporting it. Now many questions are coming up about the integrity of ESPN and how they will cover the NFL. Earlier this year the NFL obtained 10% ownership in ESPN, and concerns about how that would impact the coverage immediately arose. Now we have a controversy about it. With public trust of the media being at an all-time low, anytime there is a story that doesn't feel right there will be an uproar among people saying it is a cover up, not true, or whatever. This situation is too long for me to write about here, I encourage you to look into it if interested, but I think there are valid reasons to be suspicious, including an early report that the other driver was a fault, which was later changed.

Being fair to them i saw the incident reported roughly when it happened on the espn site in the UK? Not all the details about the phone etc. but they did report the accident and that it was being investigated