bushido_man96

You're a funny one!! I admire, that, too. If you can tell in my video, I wear no rank, other than black, too. Not that I have much to show off, but if/when I do, I still won't. Humble one, you are.

I pivot my base leg on the front kick. It only pivots about 45 degrees; not very far, but it gives me a better kick. My instructor doesn't pivot on the front kick, but he has had several knee scopes, so I like my way.

I remember years ago when I started in the ATA, there was a group of between 10 and 12, maybe 13 of us. Something like that. Only 3 of us tested for 1st degree together. And, to my knowledge, I am the only one remaining from that group. I was a certified instructor and a 2nd dan, and they were both out of it. Now, although in a different organization, I am going to test for 3rd recommended in April.

The only problem here is that it may just sound like a friendly joke, but someone takes it in a manner you did not intend.

matsumura passai passai dai passai sho bassai dai bassai sho tomari passai i can't think of anything else, actually i am looking at this list ,i can only see 2 main kata Matsumura version and Tomari, i am sure TKD guys have their own version of Bassai too, I know some TKD schools use bassai dai as one of their forms, but I have never seen it or learned it.

why do kung fu people never attack? or why does no one ever film a kung fu guy making an attack? every video i see they just stand there and get hit. I did not view this video, but if it is one that has been on before, against the kyokushin guys, they sparred according to kyokushin rules, with no hands to the head. That kind of takes away the straight blast advantage that many Kung-fu styles like to use. Just a thought.

Oh, yeah, me too. Definitely not what I am used to doing, but I like learning new things. If I had a clearer video production, with the movements performed in a more demonstrative manner, I am pretty confident that I could learn it from you, parkerlineage. Very well done.

Referring to the discussion of low and high stances, I remember reading an article in Black Belt Magazine years ago, about the form Bassai Dai, I believe. It showed some variances between different schools/organizations, showing some of the same moves in high and low stances. The reasoning was that the high stances were preferred by the shorter statured people of a certain region, so that they would appear taller. And the lower stances were performed more by the taller people of another region, which would lower their high center of gravity. Food for thought. I cannot confirm the ideas here, but I did read them.

So the class is still structured? Yes, there is a lesson plan, although sometimes we adapt according to the make-up of the class. (i.e. no point doing advanced kata if the majority of the class is a bunch of 8 year old red belts that need to work on their basics) And once a week, we run a self-defence/pads style class for the teens and adults, which is structured but in a different way. It's still karate, IMO, but in a more physical, hands-on way. Ah, very cool. Thank you much.

I was wondering if anyone thinks this is true. I have been asking in the Korean arts forum about what Tang Soo Do classes are like. Of the few descriptions I have thus far, it sounds close to my traditional TKD classes. By traditional I mean that we don't spend 75% of our time doing paddle drills and sparring drills. We do a lot of basics and forms work, and although we do compete in Olympic rule tourneys, our sparring isn't exactly the same. Anything to offer, I am all ears!

What organization are you with, and what forms system do you use?

I was curious, were the basics you started class with always the same, or were they different each time? I will compare with you if you give me an idea.

When I kick, I pivot the base foot on just about every kick I do, even the front kick. My knees hurt as it is, and I don't need to stress them anymore than they already are.

That's awesome, seeing those guys still going. I hope I can get there, and still work with my students.

Traditional Taekwondo We concentrate on basics, forms, and one-steps. We spar, using Olympic style rules, but we don't spend as much time fighting as we do on the curriculum. Competition is not limited to sanctioned Olympic qualifying events, and we do some point sparring as well.

wow, look at them, they are all like 7 dan and up, and i think they are doing Passai dai. thanks for the picture. You are welcome. I love seeing High dan grades practice lower kata. Shows the world that there is always more to learn in the kata. I like just seeing that the 7 dans and up are practicing. I don't know many that do that are associated with my organization.

Very nice, parkerlineage! Nice, quick hand movements. I like it a lot.

Ok. We cool!

That sounds exactly like my TKD classes, to the T, but with not as much self-defense, and more one-steps.

So the class is still structured?

Good analogies, too! Thanks.

I would train both - that's what I was until I stopped bjj (work schedule). there is enough cross over that you will get to work what you are learning in both classes, which is extra practice for you. Also, it makes up for the gaps in each style. I would kill my fellow judoka at my first judo club on the ground, because i was the only one who trained bjj. They did a lot of ground work, but at the time, ground work was pretty much the only thing I was doing. The reverse was true in bjj. They had several good wrestling and bjj takedowns, but I could take most of them standing, except the ones who cross trained in judo. Cool, that's what I was wondering. Thanks for the advice. Now, just have to get a school of each to move here....

I noticed that this is an old post, but I will give my 2 cents anyhow. I feel that TMA's who say that strength training and conditioning is useless are a thing of the past. Many will be now realize the advantages of engaging in such exercises. As for the question, if you take two martial people, one artist and one athlete, and all things being equal, the athlete will probably have the advantage. Now, once things like strategy, state of mental toughness, and other intangibles enter the equation, the result can change. Now, I have a question. Can't martial artist and martial athlete be the same thing? There could be a lot of grey area involved. The unfortunate thing about this whole scenario is that obviously not everyone has the time and money to spend training to be professional fighters. So, you will naturally see a difference between the two. It is like playing a pick-up basketball game with a couple of pros. Gonna be hard to beat. By the way, this is a nice thread.

first, check out the schools. some judo clubs are REALLY laid back. Others are very competition oriented and train extremely hard. next, watch the content of the classes. take note of how much standup the bjj class teaches and how much groundwork the judo class does. If all things are equal (both are competitive, both do stand up and ground regularly) then they are on fairly even ground. All else being equal, i personally would pick judo. Most fights will begin with both of you standing - judo will excel here. If it goes to the ground, judo will give you more than enough foundation to hold your own on the ground (provided they work groundwork regularly, as I stated earlier) As for most fights going to the ground, those came from police stats that were used to promote bjj. Thinking about it, cops probably want to take a perp to the ground, as it will be easier for them to restrain the average guy there than it is to restrain him while standing. That said though, many fights do indeed go to the ground, as you have also noticed yourself. Both bjj and judo are invaluable in such a situation. You are right about the Law Enforcement Officer stat, elbows_and_knees. Last night, at the county jail, we had to restrain the same guy 4 times, and all 4 times ended up with us putting him on the ground. Just a question, but do you think it would be beneficial to train both judo and BJJ at the same time, or train a year in one and then add the other, or would this just be a monotony? Just wondering, because I like the throws of judo, and the BJJ ground game looks good. I just didn't know if they both contain enough of the same stuff to warrant training in just one if both were available.

I think our retention rate to black belt is around 10%, but I can't confirm this. Some groups of starters stick around better than others, for some reason.