bushido_man96

Nice work!

Like I've mentioned earlier, in regards to evaluating one's position and abilities, and making a determination based on the information obtained.

I'm not sure it was changed due to money. It would have been done first by Itosu, if I remember correctly, and then by Funakoshi. I'm not sure either one of these individuals made a lot of money from their training.

Injuries can be avoided if the trainers are being smart about their training. In Aikido, they tend to create a lot of energy in the way they attack. Changing the attacks will change the energy provided, and also change the way the defenses work.

There was a time, however, that kata were not tied to rank. Kata were sought out based on the knowledge they held. The advent of the ranking system has changed that.

It seems wrong, because we only ever have other people promoting us. All I am saying is that at times, I think exceptions can be made. I don't think self-promotion necessarily lacks integrity.

Ok, I'm moving slow here, but time for some more clips, from his second tourney at Great Bend, KS. He had three matches, in a round-robin format. Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIzdp9Girg He starts out nice and low, and then he just wants to attack the head, which I and the coaches have been working with him on. I have failed to mention that he is wearing the maroon singlet. He got himself in a bad spot, ended on bottom, and then started fleeing the mat, which I don't care for, but it did show he had some awareness of where he was at. He started a good switch, but reached back instead of to the legs, which got him in a bad position. The other kid did a good job of controlling him while on top, putting Kendall in a tough spot needing points. He started on top in the third period, and the kid got up, but Kendall used a headlock to get him to the ground, and finish it out there. Still don't like the headlocks. Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARxXmrOw-tM This match was against a fellow club member. Kendall is the red haired one. He started with a good sprawl and reversal, but allowed an escape. I just can't seem to get him to engage with the takedowns, and don't how to drill him out of it. He did stand up quick, but couldn't shake the hands off, and got taken back down. And in the 2nd period, we have a double leg takedown sighting! Probably turned the match around for him. He was able to work to pin from there. Match 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MmAPpC1Tnw Kendall had wrestled this kid before, and I knew he liked to throw headlocks, so I begged and pleaded with Kendall to avoid getting into a headlock battle with this kid. But he didn't. He did do a good job of getting around behind, and taking him down, avoiding getting flipped himself. He got into a bit of a shoving match with him in the 2nd period, and almost got flipped in the headlock, but managed to drive the kid down to his back instead, and was able to ride out for a pin.[/u]

Kote-gashi, "return the wrist" is probably the one I've liked the most. Get a good grip on the hand, and turn the palm where you want them to go. I've found that with some footwork, sweeps mix in with is well.

Yes, we are on the same page.I do agree that not all things are subject to self-promotion. But, there are instances where it can be a viable option.

I don't think kata is only a vessel for gaining belts, but you can't deny the correlation between the rank you are, and the kata you learn. I'm not saying it is right, wrong, or indifferent, but that the correlation does exist in many styles. Now, with that said, you mention all the applications that come out of the kata you learn. Which I think is a great thing. But, my train of thought here is that the time taken out for first learning the kata is time that could be applied towards learning the applications or the concepts behind them, drilling with a live partner, thus increasing the learning curve in acquiring self-defense skills.

I don't think O-Sensei watered anything down. He changed his approach to training over time, but during his time, he was a very formidable Martial Artist, with very good, sound technique. The problem I have seen in Aikido is the training concepts of the uke blending with the nage, and offering very little, if any resistance, in training. I think there are a lot of good concepts in the training, but learning to apply it effectively against a resisting opponent is not something seen in a lot of dojo.

Hi Bushido_man 96 Thank you how are you and what kind of karate style do you do? I used to Take Shotokan karate do and I was a green belt and know Im taking American Kenpo karate and im a orange belt working on getting my purple belt this year My Sifu Jesus Flores his a 9th degree and head instructor of Flores Bros Kenpo karate and he gives everybody to be in the swat team and to be in the black belt club Well 1st you have to be orange belt or higher and 6 months training and have a perfect attendance show great and positive attitude in class and you have to be recommended by your instructor then you will be part of the black belt club all the kids adult can joined as long as you meet all the requirements Once your in the Black Belt Club You can attend black Belt Club member classes receive a Black Belt Club Belt You can receive all discount on all items purchase also in the event or tournament you can get discount and No tuition as long as you remain BCC member My style is TKD. You mention no tuition. So, you do not pay any fees if you are a black belt club member? That doesn't sound quite right, but maybe I missed something. I agree that does sound like a bit of a marketing ploy. As an instructor, I don't think I'd be doing my job by only offering select members of the school special instruction. Maybe I'm not looking at the explanation properly, though.

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I agree, jaypo, that training the mental preparation aspect of it is just as important, and can be the more difficult aspect of the training. You can give someone all the techniques in the world, but at the end of the day, if they are a sheep, they are a sheep. Training the mental aspect of it has to start early on, as well, along with the techniques.

I tend to agree with Alex on this issue. It should not take a lot of years or time in to learn how to begin defending yourself effectively. That is not to say that the study of any Martial Art shouldn't be a lifelong journey; I think we all appreciate the fact that it is a lifelong journey. But learning to defend oneself should start on day one, and it should continue throughout.

1/27/2014 Taught TKD: 6:00 - 7:30 pm. Its a testing week, so I hit basics hard, got some good forms work in, covered one-steps to make sure there were no questions there, and then for sparring, I did several rounds of one-technique back and forth, then 2-technique, then 3-technique, and ended with a round of testing sparring.

I'd enjoy the TKD Olympic style sparring more, without the pads and chest protectors. I think it would be a lot better that way.

Its the convenience of the name. I'm not claiming that kata is not a concept. But, when I say "kata training," just about everyone knows what I am talking about, or has a view in their mind of what it is, and what it may or may not entail. I agree. I have around 20 patterns to learn, and our school doesn't work any patterns applications. Its actually a rather new and rather highly disputed activity in most TKD circles, training TKD patterns in the kata concept of bunkai. Some question whether that was the goal or not for TKD patterns; as far as I'm concerned, its not whether or not it was the goal, but if it can be a verifiable and effective way to train with them. That's a matter for another thread. But with that said, I do agree that too much time is spent on forms work, and not enough time on partner work, and I feel that most of this is due to the nature of the curriculum in Martial styles that utilize forms work. To the bold above; you may disagree, but it does appear which kata you learn depends on your rank. My question is, which is the first kata you learned, and do you go back to it often, and do you think it is enough? As for your comments on the maturity in progression of kata, I feel that the parner concept training really works off of a similar model, but is based more off of strategies and tactics to apply, as opposed to the different moves taught in kata applications. I think they are similar in regards here, but the partner training concpets allows for a quicker ability in learning to apply the concepts.

Its not wrong, Bob. Its just that there appears to be a couple of different view points on the issue, which is ok. So, for the sake of discussion here, lets flip the terminology a bit. It is clear that you don't like the idea of someone self-appointing their rank. But what about self-appointing a title, like in your type of heirarchy, which has titles that may not be necessarily tied to rank? Would you view this the same as self-appointing rank, or different?

So, in your one-step sparring, your attacker doesn't start from the downblock position? Interesting. I like that. I've never done this before, but I remember reading about it in Choi's encyclopedia in regards to training for sparring. Its basically a pre-set sparring set, isn't it? I do see the value in this training as a step in "ramping up" step sparring training. I did, on how I felt that it should evolve from the more basic motions and learning to read and react to attacks, to more active self-defense scenarios. Shameless plug here: Step-Sparring and Self Defense I am in agreement here. I feel that it is important to introduce resistance with step-sparring as time goes on, in order to be able to learn how to react to the chaos of combat. To the bold, I agree, it is a very important way to train. I would even go a step further and add an element to it by having the defender start out in a "fence" position, working a scenario where the defender attempts to de-escalate, and then defends if needed based on the actions of the attacker.

MA has been around every since societal groups and civilizations have been organizing groups (armies) to protect their land, family, property, etc. There have always been fueding factions amongst the human race, and therefore, the need to oganize and fight have been necessary. Its likely going to be a geneology that will never be fully traced. There has been a claim for some time that Kalirpayatu is the forerunner of modern Martial Arts, but that claim is tenuous at best. Suffice it to say that most early cultures had some weapons that they trained and used to defend their lands with, and they likely organized at times into groups to defend themselves against other hositle groups, and the Martial Arts were born.

How so?? Well why do you need to be a nidan? Or a sandan? Or a kudan? Why not just a Blackbelt? It is a tool to distinguish you from him or from her. That you are Bill's senior but Bob's junior. Early on rank is an identifier so your instructor and others can gauge your progress on a curriculum but when you are training for training's sake why do you need to be promoted further. IMHO it's to maintain that hierarchy so that both the rank holder and their peers know where within that hierarchy they fall. I don't need to be anything except a student of the MA. Those type of things are there, and were there before I came onto the MA picture. I am what I am, but it's not because of something that I did beyond my training. No one falls into the hierarchy, they're selected via an established voting proxy. Not everyone is of the hierarchy!! We use the word "hierarchy" within Shindokan circles to only note whom lies within the Administrative Chain of Command, and not within the ranks, as you're viewing it. It's an unfamiliar term for me to see rank as you're explaining it. Before I was elected into the old Board of Regents, I was NOT part of the hierarchy, nor was I privy to anything Administrative and the like. When I speak here at KF and I use the word "hierarchy", I've always been referring to those members, those chosen few, that are part of the Administration and the like. Ok...I've babbled enough...sorry! It's seems as though you use the word "hierarchy" within Shindokan to refer to something specific? In the strictest sense of the word, everyone who wears belts is part of a hierarchy whether they want to be or not. Taking this definition: (n) a system in which members of an organization or society are ranked according to relative status or authority Belt ranking seems to fit into this pretty well. Once getting the next belt stops opening up a new part of the curriculum for you, why do you ever need to be promoted again? To the bold type above... I refer to something specific, because it is specific within the Hombu! Not my rule, but the established rule as set by our Soke!! Our hierarchy is the recognized authority within our Hombu and the SKKA. Our ranks are NOT part of OUR hierarchy, and not all, but very few, are nominated/elected to be appointed to that status from our specific ranks. It's OUR way!! Not the way of others!! I see what Danielle is saying, and it does fit into our discussion here. By and large, many of the organizations we are a part of have a hierarchy that is determined for the most part by the rank of those in the organization. The head of an organziation is usually the highest rank of that organization (usually). And we have also determined through the course of our discussion that most people who do promote themselves are likely doing so in order to move up in some hierarchy, whether it be their own or somebody elses.

Congrats on this accomplishment. What exactly is this black belt club, how do they differentiate between the other students, and what do you do as a black belt club member?

Super Bowl 48 is set! Seattle Seahawks vs Denver Broncos. Who do you got? By my very nature, I cannot root for Denver, so go Seahawks! Seattle was an AFC west team at one time, too.

I understand that he has a black belt in Judo, as well. I enjoyed watching both when I was younger, and still do. I'd probably lean towards Chuck.