Drunken Monkey

i think the film you're talking about is 'island of fire'.... maybe.... real fighting.. how about in bridget jones when those two blokes have a go in the restaurant? there's a film that has a few 'not so flashy' fight sequences in it.... 'prodigal son'. its not by any means 'realistic' but it very well put together.

i find the thing i want the most after a heavy training session, is a fat greasy burger....

hmm, i eat what-ever i get my hands on... i think what's important isn't what you eat but rather what you don't eat. and even then it's all about moderation. generally, the things i watch out for are fat, sugar and salt. except my tea. i know i put too much sugar in that.

..yeah but if we follow the bushido code, that would mean having to obey word for word, whatever we are told to do by our 'superiors' or else we get our heads hacked off....

also, it is very, very slow. 'wind up'-support-release-push-land-ready-survey. the whirling thing you see in films is a much quicker 'flash' move that forces oponent to give you space as you get up but still too committed. as i (almost) pointed out before, check out some of the roles to negetiva to ginga (and variations) movements in capoeria especially from angola. covers, moves you out of the way, and you keep looking at opponent (as you do in capoeria anyway...) and its nice and compact...but only if you're good....

...wing chun.... kicks choy-li-fut behind..... or is it the other way around. hmm, depends on who you ask i guess....

..hang on.... your details list shorin-ryu.... and you say you don't find it 'doesn't work'? this doesn't sound right.... i thought of all the karate styles, shorin-ryu was one of the styles to learn... i mean, here at least, they're hard to come by and standards are very, very high.

from the sounds of his post, the black belt was just assigned to him for the exercise. which y'know, sounds like a good thing seeing as he IS a beginner. face it, the black belt wanted to do 'proper' training, not watch some punk * kid with an attitude attempt to do a form. i'm pretty sure we all know how he felt. as i said before, if it was me paired with you, i would've given you a much harder time, especially seeing as how you probably think you can take me on too....

...so what about speed? being 'able' to hit a target isn't any good if you can't get there before your opponent has a chance to cover... like it has been said (and mostly agreed on) what is important changes depending on what you are doing or hoping to achieve. all things being equal, it is none of the above that is most important. all things beign equal, technique and judgement is most important. it isn't about one dominating factor. is is being able to execute a technique using the correct amount of force, using the correct speed and at the right target. most importantly, it is about knowing what technique to use.

....this is going to sound crap but you have to empty your proverbial cup.... i mean, if you go into it looking at things from MT point of view then you aren't really learning anything and that defeats the object of going to the KM class. i know its not as easy to do as it is to say (after a year i still fall into wing chun habits whilst in the kick-boxing). all martial arts follow a particular set of pronciples/theories. the resulting techniques might not work when you use them in your MT but then you have to remember that your MT techniques might not work when used in a KM way. (hope you understand what i'm saying....) i mean, first you have to know the style before you can judge it, right? so give yourself the chance to learn it first. when you have learnt what is in KM, then you can begin the process of removing 'excess'.

...whilst saying something witty.... don't forget that bit...

so when you say 'break' a limb, you actually mean dislocate at a joint....? once again, i ask, this is assuming that the guy isn't resisting, right? i'm trying to say nicely that if you come at me with some raging power, I'll make you look silly with some simple technique well, that's just it. we're not talking about raging power. we are talking about the three aspects involved with executing a technique of any sort. bare in mind that is also taking into account that we all have varying degrees of expertise in various subject matters. no one is saying that brute force is the way to go (although it does help as it gives you an edge of sorts....) as some others have pointed out you can strike accurately but without power behind it, what's it gonna do? the more intelligent among us has summised that what is more important depends on what you re doing and that sounds quite convincing to me.

let's see ten pounds is approx 40 burgers (guess what size.....). so if i put 40 burgers on your arm, it might break? the thing with trying break a bone by striking at it is that there is a nice and soft and cushioning layer of meat and fat in the way. also, the limb moves and reacts. it might take ten pounds to snap a dry bone on the edge of a table but when it's someone's arm or leg, it's not the same. not even slightly....

..y'know, that 'get up' you describe sounds a lot like something done in capoeria....

...or simple case scenario: hulk claps his hands creating a sonic boom (he's done it before.....) thereby deafening and disorientating (hence disabling) spiderman. he then calmly walks up to him, says something witty before squishing spiderman's head between his forefinger and thumb.... you seem to forget that ol' bruce banner (or has the hulk changed AGAIN since i last picked up a comic...?) is not lacking in the brain cell department.....

it is spelt philosophy...

so is that ten pounds of force assuming that there is no resitance from the guys who's arm you're trying to break...?

full contact... 100%..... lets see, does that mean you punch, kick, elbow, knee, break limbs, force joints and tear at muscles with full intention to hurt/damage/incapacitate etc etc at least two times a week? *edited a typo*

well, if it goes well, you will train way more than just that one class. think of the class of being the weekly meeting so that everyone can see how everyone else is doing. real training happens outside. the class is there for you to ask about problems you have encountered..... make sense? anyway. i can't speak about skhbar sifu but samual kwok has a good rep. has trained under lee shing sifu as well as the yip brothers if i recall correctly. a general thing about wing chun, especially when you have bunch of big guys trainig together is that sometimes they forget about the 'softness' that you should have and place too much emphasis on just being 'heavy' (not 'hard'...). when you go, make a note of the male-female mix in the class. a good mix should mean that you will get a good range of 'feel'.

um... i think i've said this before but prepare to get bored. (there's only so[i/] much teaching/learning a lot of it is drills and practicing) hmm, but then, only a first lesson. always lots to concerntrate on in a first lesson. i'm not sure if you should pay much attention to the 1+1/2 hour class. this is usually the 'normal' times. i've had lessons that last 3hours once, after the main lot have gone. it all depends on what/how you want to learn. i mean, if you're serious about it, wing chun sifus are often quite accommodating in teaching you in their back-yard or something. it's almost tradition. the class is for teaching the fundementals such as stance, footwork, forms and training drills and stuff. refinement and real studying happens outside of the class. i don't think one class is going to give you the full picture....

Only the Chinese systems. The Japanese/Okinawan history is quite different in this regard.... i get the distinct impression that the majority of people out there thing that we (chinese, japanese...) are all the same....

and well, we can't actually see how you do your 60 press-ups or how they do theirs. numbers mean nothing if the quality isn't there. i can't do 60 press ups (of the standard that i would actually count) but i bet you couldn't keep up with my punching warm ups....

hmm, right now in my car's cd player i have the keane album...

oi.... nothing wrong with london..... except newham. dont go there. or brixton (unless you're going capoeria). or lewisham (unless you want to get shot) um, you'd be surprised about soho. it has a bad rep. you're more likely to pick-up those sort of 'girls' near charing cross station by st martin of the fields.

especially seeing as coloured cloths were expensive back in the day... wearing yellow/gold was banned cos only the emporer could wear that colour (or his mum or dad). (a certain) blue+purple was reserved for government officials. red was a celebratory colour. white was for funerals. brown was regarded as the cloth for commoners....