Drunken Monkey

Have you studied, in detail, the history and culture on India and Egypt? that's why i asked you cos you seem to know. and i'm not talking about emergance of man. it's just one one of the earliest examples of man was found in northern china.

but children aren't entirely stupid. if you ask most children whether or not they'd let you swing a pair of them at their heads, they will say no... but then again we don't know if the kid really had the choice to say no.

a bit of both. it's one of the earliest locations where man appeared and like i said, during the neolithic age a social structure was pretty much set already. it's pretty much the same 'family'/village organisation that we have now with an elected head who may or may not be part of the family. as for fighting, i have no idea. the history books don't really dwell on that too much. but when did egypt and india have an organised army?

do you really want me to answer?

little hypothetical question. let's say there was a truely legit school. top quality teaching. top quality students. but they charge a lot of money. let's ignore the reasons for the high costs. would that still be considered a mcdojo? and even if we look at the reasons for the high costs and it does boil down to greed. would that make it a mcdojo? or is mcdojo more about the quality of the product?

pretty far. the neolithic age is from about 12,000 bc (to about 2000 bc) i think. but as i said they were still quite organised/advanced. i mean, the production of silk was developed way before this time. and well, northern china is considered one of the origins of man (if that means anything)

so if that's the case then why even bother asking? jut leave and find somewhere else. but where-ever you go you would most probably be 'tested'. any old joe can go and say they've had x number of years of experience. it holds true especially for the lower belts. when you have a class with kids that are younger than you who are all graded higher than you. most people would balk at the idea of being 'inferior' to a little kid. but the point is, at ANY class, even of the same style, you should start at the beginning. it just prevents problems in the long term.

i'm not entirely sure if we are actually talking about the same trick. it is possible for him to miss and he does miss on occasions. all he does then is reload another bolt. i can't remember their name. the wife rings a little bell to help with the line-up if that helps to identify the couple. in anycase, no. i haven't seen the show. maybe you could explain how it works.

and chinese history goes back quite far. the first hereditary dynasty was about 4000 years ago. before that the neolithic age of ancient china was still pretty advanced having fired pottery, woven cloths and domesticated animals. i think it's more true to say that eygpt and china had organised armies/fighting forces at pretty much the same time.

i dont want to/blieve i should skip the basics no... you just don't want to wear a white belt again.... hmm, so now you take to personally insulting us. in any case, you're not proposing anything new and that's kind of the point. there's a few of us here that have tuaght or do teach both on a professional and on a purely enjoyment level. i think they all have a lot more experience in teaching and learning than you do and have heard the things you say before, time and time again. and you example is wrong. what you are still doing is snowboarding. even though the mountain is different, what/how you do things doesn't change. here, in terms of martial arts, you are talking about different styles that do things diferently. in terms of martial arts, the fight=the mountain. let's see, if you were to try to ski on the same mountain would you bother learning the basics of skiing? or just assume that your snowboarding basics would do....?

and that was exactly tommarker's point. the fact it was a child on the receiving end might shock but the clip was of the final 'event' as it were. what you didn't see was the preparation behind/before the clip. chances are, just like it was with the wife and the crossbow, the kid was never in any risk of harm. incidentally, the crossbow trick i am talking about is kinda old and i have to say that considering the sheer mass of hair the wife had, i would have to say that there was quite a buffer zone between apple and actual head.

that's a little gift from a friend from japan. that little monkey taps out little tunes with the bananas he's holding.

you mean, we're not saying what you want us to say so you're gonna go? but of course, for someone who's done talking, you had to have the final word....

sparring when you're not ready normally results in bad/sloppy technique. when it's something as 'technical' as karate where minute angles sometimes do matter, if you can't even punch properly and you go into sparring, all you will be doing is playing 'tag'. yeah, sure you will be holding back on the punch anyway but you've still got to have proper form behind it and form only comes fro practicing the basics. anyway. are you saying that your grading's have a fixed time element to them and that in a year you will only fulfill time requirements for yellow? does that matter? do you know what a yellow belt's training consists of? (i.e still nothing except basic work?) not rewarded for your efforts? well, sorry but i dont care how much effort you put in, if you're not up to scratch then why should you get promoted? you say you want to more action. so why 'learn' from books? how does that teach you 'action' stuff? no offence mate but you just sound like another kid who wants to learn the fancy 'advanced' moves without having to go through the foundations. if that really is the case then go on, keep copying moves from books and go to a muay thai gym. then you can go show them your moves and they can then show you that they don't work and then you will 'learn' that karate/tsd/kung fu doesn't work cos what you learn by yourself didn't work..... ok. enough of that. in a way it doesn't really matter. at the end of the day, if your class isn't giving you what you want then you should find another class. just don't try to find other excuses for you to quit. is it a mcdojo? i don't know and i don't care. i'm not sure why you needed to tell us that you consider it a mcdojo. was it so that it would make it easier for to us suggest that you leave? oops, being a bit cynical again.... well, like i said, if you feel like you want something else, go somewhere else. do i believe self taught stuff means you deserve to start higher? no. if i was teaching you and you asked me that, i'd make you work harder. *edited a typo*

....and sometimes, all the acrobatic flash really detracts from the fight scene. for a start it almost always requires a change in shot which really breaks up the sequence and timing/pacing/flow. generally it kinda stops the action in order to accommodate it. the best fight scenes for me has always been the ones where things have been simple. two good examples would have to be jackie chan in police story (in the shopping centre) and jackie chan VS benny urquidez and yeah, a lot of the guys in zero gravity have a capoeria base (but there are kinda two zero gravity teams so maybe that might have something to do with it) there's the odd guy who does something else as well like the guy who played kid gusto. and um, the 'big' kick-boxing guy was cool and made flash withput jumping about like a monkey. and to think it all started (and still is) just their hobby..... hey ben, NOW you know what a real martial arts geek is!

but not dedicated enough to work through training properly....

No, I mean that his ords did not relfect that he did not mean he wasnt or wanted his art to not be in relation this makes sense how? Yes, I believe he had a cultural pride. After all, people did not want to recognize his accomplishements, at first, because he was Chinese actually, i think it was more due to his stubborness/thick skin more than pride. it was, to me, kinda like him saying "you don't want me to teach, hell, i WILL teach AND it WILL be a chinese style". especially with the questioning of his background and all that..... calling it chinese would've been his way to say both "screw you" AND "i'm doing it for the chinese people" at the same time.

hmm, looks like most people here conveniently ignored tommarker's post.... and um, i remember a magician/stage performer who used to shoot an apple that was sat on his wife's head using a cross bow, whilst he was blind-folded and facing the opposite direction.

...i am not a girl..... okok, i'll change the pic.....

.....of course, i might not know what i am talking about either....... oops, did i just imply that he doesn't know what he is talking about?

whao... i just mentioned what 'pai gow' might be in cantonese from how i read it. between what you heard and what you type and what i read, there might be some discrepencies.

7? where'd you get 7 from? six degrees of separations was from the film of the same name (see, i'm not deviating from the thread here...). and BETWEEN you and me, there are only four people. including you and me, is six! i.e five steps to get from you to me. world really is small. makes me wonder how many of us here have that kind of separation....

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um, i would stay away from wushu..... if you really do intend to have a part in choreography, i think it'd be better if you had a base in something that gives you a better idea of how 'traditional' moves work. things like hung gar or eagle claw has enough flash as well as having a good real technique base. other wise you will either be relying on outside knowledge (which will hamper your control over the set) or trying to make up how something might work. the guys from yuen wo pings know traditional styles such as hung gar, wing chun, tai chi etc NOT wushu. a lot of the guys who work in hk have a hung gar base. it's only recently that wushu has featured more. what jackie chan did in the past was better refered to as 'tumbling' (for the opera). that was his base. but him being a total fanatic about learning and training and getting things right, as well as having learnt/trained/practiced with such people as yuen wo ping and his crew, lau jing jing, emil farkas and lord alone knows who else in his 40+ years has meant that he also has deep knowledge of how a lot of traditional styles work. that knowledge is what helps put together a good fight scene. mostly, once you've got the agility and ability, putting together a good fight scene is a totally different plate of sushi. for that, nothing beats experience. camera angles, pans, perspectives, movements, framing are all things that you learn by trying and doing. hehe, you all know who i'm going to recommend for some examples of top quality 'amatuer' fight scenes.....

and another thing about the snake styles; they all have one thing in common (in terms of techniques) and no-one's mentioned it yet..... i wonder if the great gilbert can enlighten us.