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Right, but why do you think he stays on his feet? It's his knowledge of grappling. He knows the takedowns in and out, which makes him more adept at defending them. He could not do this if he weren't such a skilled grappler.

it is a style considered by many to be fraudulent. It is also considered by some to be cultish. It is also known as shaolin do.

It CAN be effective, but is not inherently automatically effective. I would actually not advocate teaching it in self defense classes. Why? because you are hitting a small target area. Not only that, but it's a small area that you need to hit a certain way. In the adrenaline rush of a fight, this can be hard to accomplish. In addition, He is trying to hurt you without being hurt himself, adding yet another level of difficulty.

He will have to know and understand grappling. What alot of people don't know about liddel is that he has grappled ALL of his life. He wrestled as a kid and all throught hich school and college. He was captain of his team in high school and was national level caliber. He has also been doing bjj for the past seven years. That is why he is so good at defending takedowns - he understands them inside and out. It's more than just that. It takes more than merely being present in the system. you have to train it daily. My shuai chiao teacher has trained kuntao for years and even though he can school the grapplers while standing, they can school him on the ground. Why? He doesn't train ground grappling enough.

I dunno... I've never seen any WC that really impressed me.... not to the caliber that everyone claims it to be. Is it effective? sure, but I wouldn't place it above anything else. I think krav maga is great, but it's becoming WAY too commercial, at least in america. have you seen all of the ads and things these guys put out? This will eventually lead (and has already started) to make it the next McSensation. I think their saving grace is the same that thai boxing has - they train hard - that will tend to ward off people that aren't serious, if all schools follow a similar training regimen.

That's generally a personal decision, IME. I've never trained in a style, nor known anyone in a style where they were taught not to end it quickly. Now, that said, in competitive venues, you will see this done - Not because they don't want to end it quickly, but for strategic reasons. You are fighting someone just as skilled or MORE skilled than you. If you don't feel him out, you may get mauled. If you go in to end it quickly, he is able to hold his own and you get tired, you get mauled. These are strategic and are not the inherent nature of the style.

If I'm not mistaken, it's called that because it's supposedly got aspects of shaolin included in it.

I concentrate on what I feel I need to work on. I will spend the session working on that. Consequently, what I focus on varies.

maybe... that's more of an issue of accurate labeling - I am more than willing to bet that you didn't learn your groundfighting in tkd. So, to bill yourself as ONLY a tkd guy would technically be a false billing.

I've seen discussion of it on other forums - the general consensus is that they are frauds.

it builds tolerance. you will always feel hard contact. after a while, you learn to tolerate it. Also, bone density is developed. When excessive weight (weight training) and / or impact is applied to a bone, it adapts by becoming more dense. I've never heard of any confirmed reports of a thai boxer developing shin cancer... I think it is more similar to skin cancer - induced by excessive exposure to UV rays.

it had relevance in a smart alec way. he's saying that it doesn't matter where it came from, as long as you enjoy it, do it. However, for historical references, yes, it is completely irrelevant.

always. Care to discuss sources? scientific evidence is readily available. I'd be really interested in seeing a source that can PROVE - not just believe - that endurance type taining can also be used to build any legitimate strength, or why you should do internal training as opposed to doing both, or only external.

that's not true at all. Men are genetically stringer than females. That is not to say that they cannot become stronger, but by nature, that is not the case. look at the amount of weight a female bb - pro level - lifts. Compare it to what a male lifts - there is no comparison. Also, what you are referring to in regards to having a child isn't strength, but moreso pain tolerance.

First, that's not "the old way" - as if that was the only thing they did. They did all sorts of weight training, from lifting stone locks to carrying water filled vases. Second, if you don't want to lift, then you don't really want the results you claim you do... that is WAY too many pushups to gain strength or size. What you are doing is training your muscle endurance... you are training with the wrong goal in mind. Do you think that how the eastern arts today train is the exact same as it was when they were created? I can guarantee you that it is not. Change is inevitable. Also, weight training and MA training don't have to be intertwined. If they are not, then you technically are not "changing" anything. And no, it didn't really originate there, actually... different cultures originated there own arts. There was stickfighting and wrestling in africa long before the first documented chinese martial art... that sounds like a good way to pull/tear some muscles. this is the incorrect way to do it. The reason they stress more frequent meals is that frequent eating keeps the metabolism high, which in turn burns calories. by only eating twice, you aren't keeping your metabolism high. Also, what you stated is SEVERELY lacking in protein... you won't put any muscle on with that diet.

you insist, but you can't prove... both are great, but they are designed to condition specific things - both should be performed.

There are more than two, but they are in memphis. you're probably gonna end up training in memphis anyway... it's to sparse on the outskirts.

judo is a standing grappling art. They do groundwork as well, however. What do you have against wrestling? Thanks for the compliments on the site. In c-ville, there's not much. if you don't mind going out to germantown, there is a church with good thai boxing, judo and bjj programs. You will have the most luck in memphis though.... c-ville is a smaller burb that isn't really varied at all in terms of martial arts training...since you work downtown, you have to pass all of the good schools to get home anyway. I would seriously go to one of those.

none of the kyokushin I've seen trains as hard as a boxer does. that said, they do train hard and get a lot of live training.

You have a valid point, but those aren't good examples. lidell has been wrestling all his life and has been doing bjj for seven years. silva si a bjj black belt. Those two are more than 'strikers that can grapple' - they are very much grapplers.

That applies to any style.

that' depends on who you ask and what their personal style of fighting is. Look at a boxer - he doesn't have to block all the time. Why not? because he moves. His evasion IS his block. Like mr miyagi said "best defense, no be there" - cliche, sure, but he was absolutely right. When you are merely blocking, you are bound to get hit eventually. At least while you are moving you are not only evading, you are rolling with the punch if you do get hit, lessening the blow, and you are possibly setting yourself up for the next strike. IMO, what we do is better from a defensive standpoint than what you are referring to. Even in my longfist days, I thought that way. That said, you are correct. A kung fu guy who trains ground work (cross training) and uses PROPER TRAINING METHODS (that's the big one) could do well in MMA.

I think that's something many people don't realize.

When trained properly, no it shouldn't any major effects. When trained improperly, you can suffer mangled digits, bad arthritis, etc.

as stated, attributes DO NOT equate to fighting skill. A gymnast has all of the things you just mentioned, as do football players and other athletes.