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Good base style.

Kung fu fist p. email me I have some info on ussd and schools that have broke away from them. Again I am sorry that this sort of thing happened to you.

This is not cool

Rudy horn was villaris or partner when he left cerios in 71. they were both 2nd dans and larry was a green belt. I was just wondering if knew what happened to him? You can look up some of this at https://www.kempokan.com I was just curious if mattara was villaris partner because alot of his instructors on theses forums clam so, and I dont know if its true?

Was mattera a partner with villari or just a top instructor? Do you know when they started calling it shaolin kempo? Do you know what happened to rudy horn?

I would go with an independent school. But I would give villaris a try.

THATS INTERESTING KUNGFUFIST I have noicedt theres not many high ranging guys on the east coast anymore.

Hey karate25 did you ever train with ussd?

To true. There are alot of breakoff schools who would like to train with grandmaster villari but dont want to be part of any organization. They just want teach and do their own thing and not have to pay all these franchise fees. He would make alot more money if he opened his seminars to everyone.

You have experience so why not try jeet kune do? Its really for advanced students anyway and you'd love the angles the trapping and different fighting ranges. there are no forums in jkd just fighting I used to train with USSD so I know you'll lke jkd.

So which is better VILLARIS or USSD? My friend said you cant own a school a 100% anymore from USSD and at VILLARIS you can. So thats one point for VILLARIS. USSD schools are around $125,000. VILLARIS are around 40,000. Thats one more point for VILLARIS. VILLARIS has a lot of high ranking masters ussd does not. One more point for VILLARIS. VILLARIS goes to the shaolin temple for 10 days and you learn 3 forms a day for 10 days USSD from what my friend told me they learn 1 FORM!!! And just tour china for the rest of the time from what my friend told me.Thats one more point for VILLARIS. in my opinion thats 4 points for VILLARIS 0 points for USSD. So what do you guys think on which one is better?

It sounds like you have a good instructor sherri, can you ask your instructor why villari was not put in as MATTERAS instructor? And why instructors cant own a dojo 100% anymore?

I've heard with ussd no one fails

To true.

That would be cool to learn from the real creater of shaolin kempo.

Well you could be an instructor for ussd for around$12,000-$15,000 if you want?

When I was at ussd they charged 45 for yellow 45 orange, 60 for purple, 75 for blue,75 for blue with stripe 100 for green 100 for green w/stripe, 200 for 1-3 brown and 300 for black. I haven't trained with them for quite some time so it may have changed?

Hey rateh did your instructor know the REAL history on shaolin kempo and where mattera got his training?

FROM WHAT MY FRIEND SAID HANS PROSCH, KRIS ESZLINGER, WILL CLARK ALL STARTED IN 1988. AND GOT THEIR FRIST BLACK 1990.ABOUT EVRY TWO YEARS THEY GOT PROMOTED, THIS JUST WHAT MY FRIEND TOLD ME. Is he a real master? You make up your on mind on that one Thanks for the in fo I cant beleave these guys got promoted so quick.

Hey TJBB1Hinx, have you tried villaris out?

USSD in my opinion is not very good.. Dont go there.

Thats inresting kungfufist.

Whoa are you at a USSD? It sounds like their program to me? What do you guys think?

Stay away from USSD.............

How was the seminar?