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^^i think he meant technique wise, which i think we can all agree on kickboxing have much less techniques and is not as in depth as karate for example. Plus i disagree with you on the fact that kickboxing requires u to be in better shape than kyokushin. In kyokushin part of our grading system is completing multiple man kumites. For black belt depending on the school we must do a 10,20 or 30 man kumite, meaning 30 new opponents for 2 minute rounds each with no breaks. Tournaments also require a great ammount of conditioning since we dont actually use any form of pads (gloves or anything), so our bodies need to be strong andv ery well conditioned to take the blows.

^^good idea, if you really feel threatened just give a low kick to the knee, easy to hit and definatly effective at finishing the fight. But i wouldnt use it unless you really have to.

I'm about 5'10" and weigh around 156lbs. I wanna build more muscle and gain a little more weight (175-180 lbs). I train three times a week at the moment, with calisthetics and such at home eveyday. I was wondering whether i should be drinking/eating protein in the morning? after workout? before workout? at night? and also when i should be eating carbs. Is it true that i should eat 6-7 small meals a day, without a single big one? Should I drink/eat the protein even if im not gonna worko ut that day? How many grams of protein a day should i average? thanks in advance

rock, you could be training MUCH more without overtraining. As long as your body can handle it its ok. For ex. for kicks you should do 100+ with each type of kick, and not only one day a week, more like 3+. You really shouldnt be worrying about overtraining unless its with weights. Punches could be at about 200+ for each type, 3 days a week+. All this is very possible without overtraining.

rock, you could be training MUCH more without overtraining. As long as your body can handle it its ok. For ex. for kicks you should do 100+ with each type of kick, and not only one day a week, more like 3+. You really shouldnt be worrying about overtraining unless its with weights. Punches could be at about 200+ for each type, 3 days a week+. All this is very possible without overtraining.

Sevenstar, i agree with you completely. But its just the title of this thread that got to me a lil. "Why is Muay Thai so good?" because you see the title could have also been any of these: "why is shotokahn karate so good?" "why is Kenpo so good?" "why is BJJ so good?" "why is Wing Chun so good?" See what im saying? Its not the style, its the person, and as i said earlier, its the methods of training that affect how good the person will be (of course there are SOME exceptions ofs tyles being complete crap). The 7-0 was not a braggin right thing or anything of that sort. It was just to show that muay thai, kickboxing, or any other style including Kyokushin can be beaten by someone who trains equallyhard or harder than you. Training is the key.

^^^yup, you got it. Clinches and throws are definatly something that is good to work on, thats wat crosstraining is for. But the punches the the head point is true, but wat exactly would be the point? you cant condition the head.. You see the thing about muay thai is that alot of the tournaments i've seen they used pads (gloves). So yea punches to the head are allowed. But in Kyokushin we try to conserve the true meaning of full contact, which means with no pads watsoever, bare knuckle. If we punch the head with that power, there we just be too many injuries without reason. There would be broken noses, jaws etc.. Without any pros to it such as conditioning. We DO have elbows, im just not sure if we are allowed to use them in tournaments.

i train in kyokushin karate and we also do full contact sparring/competition. We have some very conditioned fighters and are allowed knees (not sure about elbows, but i assume so) and low kicks. So dont think Muay Thai is the ultimate fighting style or something. Matter of fact, Kyokushin when 7-0 in Kyokushin vs K-1 (in which many fighters are kickboxing/muay thai). But the reason Muay Thai is a great system is not because of the style itself (although it is good, but so are most other systems) but because of how hard they train generally speakin muay thai school train much harder than alot of the other martial arts, but there are some that still have very strict training regimes.

eggdrop got it right. If you wanna end the fight quick, just give him a punch to the neck, that'll be the end of it.

i remember that dude, Hackney, he was the one wearing black pants right? His Kempo was SICK, he was rockin the place. and i remmeber pat smith elbowing and punching that one dudes head into the ground...that looked like it hurt.

muay thai is a good choice for kick. I would also suggest Kyokushin Karate, we do very hard training and work with full contact. This would develop both your kicking and punch strength aswell as condition your body very well. I also think it would fit better with your previous martial arts training. Up to you though.

muay thai is a good choice for kick. I would also suggest Kyokushin Karate, we do very hard training and work with full contact. This would develop both your kicking and punch strength aswell as condition your body very well. I also think it would fit better with your previous martial arts training. Up to you though.

was there a reason why you were swimming in your gi or just cuz you felt like it? Is it good to do alot of things with your gi like that. Since im kind of new, im still at the point where im afraid to wear my gi often, and take really good care of it, keep it perfectly white without any spots whatsoever. i'm afraid to put it on when im training outside of class and stuff like that. I thinkin of starting to use it more often since it is a very comfortable training uniform. Swimmin in it eh? what other things do you do with your gi/when do you wear it? How do you take care of it and how often do you wash it? In warm water? and i have a really good dryer which has an option for "Rack dry" where i just place it on a rack inside the dryer, im thinkin of using this (my sensei said not to use dryer but instead to use hang drying cuz itll ruin the gi faster) cuz i think it'll be just like hang drying. what do you think?

k, approximatly how high off the ground do you think the pants should be? Or does it relaly matter? I have a 100% cotton gi and have washed/dried it 3 times ( my sensei said it will only shrink that much and after it wont shrink anymore) but im afraid it MAY possibly shrink a little bit, will it? I was thinkin of having it about an inch or two off the ground? what do you think?

the pants on my heavyweight gi are too long. I like the width of them, but i'd say i could shorten them by about 6 inches at the bottom. how would i do this? Should i do it myself or take it to a professional place? I have a sowing machine, but im not sure how i would take care of this. would i just fold it inwards and sow it up? how do you guys take care of this stuff?

i got the heavyweight one and love the weight. Im glad i didnt get anything lighter. I can see this training me to be faster and i see how it is much more durable than lightweights.

this is wat all kyokushin tournaments look like. make sure u train hard for this. train without pads so u dont get shocked when u get hit.

i have a question about the whole knuckle "growing". Some of the guys at my dojo have HUGE knuckles, like a BIG * bump on their hand, i know this is good for the tournaments and such, but does it ever go away if you stop training? Or will it always be like that?

im starting kyokushin karate and i need to buy my first gi. I'm trying to decide whether to get the heavyweight one or lightweight. I'm leanin towards the heavy, what do you guys think?

Does Kyokushin contain any kata's or techniques that focus/include internal power?

make sure you specify what style of karate aswell. Sevenstar i notice your leaning towards the boxer, but how about if we're talkin about Kyokushin Karate for example which trains very vigorously, moreso than boxing. does full contact sparring including kicks to the head and such on a regular basis (which boxing does not). Edurance is also a very important aspect of kyokushin as you well know, to achieve blackbelt you must complete the 10-man kumite facing 10 new fighters each round (the black belts i've talked to have complete 20 man instead of 10, thats 20 FRESH fighters, unlike boxing wherey ou are both tired out). SOME kyolushin fighters have complleted the 100-man kumite which no boxer could even fathom (that i kno of). I do give boxing credit where its due, but i see alot of bias towards boxing in this thread sayin that it would woop a karateka. Part of the reason to this is because so many of the karate schools in the u.s. and canada are complete crap and dont train nearly hard enough. They do point sparring, pulling back punches...2 classes a week and hour or two each and most of the students there dont train outside of class at all. I believe that Karate is a little harder to grasp than boxing, so if two begininers were fighting, the boxer would have the upper hand. But as the levels advance I would give the edge to the karateka, this is given of course that the karateka trains hard.

from wat i saw, i'm not so sure about any face attacks not being allowed. But according to the official rules, punches to the face are not allowed kicks are. Attacks to the groin are also not allowed, other than that its all good.

in my personal opinion, I really dislike this system. Why? Because i believe this is the reason u see so many black belts who can't do *. For example, i'll go to some dojo's and see 15 years old black belts who i could rock the * out of without even using any martial arts. I have a very strong personal hate towards this and i dont think its the way karate should be practiced. But to each his own. I actually attended my first class of Kyokushin the other day and it really impressed me. The class was an hour and a half long and looked like this. Stretching for about 15-20 min, then kihon for about half and hour (not sure if kicking the pads is kihon but im guessing it is, and then full contact sparring for about half and hour, then puhsups and stuff for the last 10 or so minutes, it was a VERY intense class. This was only one class, but im fairly sure its different each day, or at least two-three variations, because we did not practice katas the other day and we obviously do that.

I dont get it? How is Kyokushin Karate related to kickboxing in any way, maybe the fact that its full contact i guess, but thats about as far as it goes.

The school i am looking into claims they do full contact sparring, but when i read it, it said that they use Shinpads and Gloves, is this still viable? I thought Kyokushin was all about strengthening the body, will this still work or is it wrong? Im not that familiar with how effective padded sparring is, etc.. help is appreciated.