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Damos just gave his opinion. He did not attack your personal character or anyone elses in his arguement. He just merely stated that knowing the names of techniques in their native language is "stupid". I don't see anything wrong with that opinion.. and I agree with it. Please refrain from name-calling, as it does not promote a good debate arena.

Hey, I deleted your double post. Anyway, yea, that's a very simple way of explaining it, Havok. I think it's in my detailed explanation there if you want to take the time to read it.

Why not train your kicking ability as well as your endurance at the same time? Here is a Muay Thai regiment. 3 rounds Shadow Boxing 4 rounds Heavy Bag work 4 rounds Thai Pad work 3 rounds shadow boxing or light sparring You can do 2 or 3 minute rounds depending on your level of conditioning. 30 seconds of rest between rounds. Also, you can work up to doing more rounds the more conditioned you get. Also, try this for size. Doing only powerful kicks, start with 1 and work your way up to 10 or more kicks in a row. It's a pyramid you are building with kick numbers. at 1, you kick once.. 2 you kick twice in a row.. 3 is 3 kicks.. all the way to 10 and then count down to 1 again. Try to keep up the power level of your kick and don't rest more than 5 seconds between numbers. This will have you sucking wind very quick. When you get in better shape, go for another 10 count or more.

Ok.. I'm crazy.. I only spend about 20 minutes a session weight training 2 or 3 times a week and I am HUGE!! I guess if you want to spend hours in the gym, you can do what MTB says, and you will get the same size (or smaller) or you can do my quick workout and get on with your life. Military press-- sit on a bench upright and just press the dumbbell or barbell above your head, try to concentrate on your shoulders doing the movement. Keep your elbows pointed out to the side and not forward. Push the weight up as fast as you can without using a jerk to build momentum. Lower the weight ina controlled fashion and go again. Use enough weight that you can't do 8 reps. I'm not sure of any online sites that may help you out, but you can check on search engines. I'm sure you'll find something. Stick with my total body workout plan that I gave to you in the other post and you'll have the body you want, Jack. P.S. don't worry about working "upper" "lower" and "middle" shoulder muscles.. You'll be working all three when you do a military press. I am IFPA certified as a personal trainer. I have placed 2nd place in the US Armed forces national bodybuilding tournament. I spend less than 90 minutes total per week training with weights. I can press 400# and i'm 5'2" tall. Hey, I'm crazy, don't follow my advice.

Ok.. here is a good routine.. I think that you can try. I like that you split your routine for upper body and lower body, that's probably all you need to split it to. Keep the same schedule but try this regiment. Upper body Start with Pulldowns or barbell rows ( i like to switch them every other work out ), then go to Bench Press or Dumbbell press (inclined or flat, it's personal pref), then do military press. 3 exercises and you are done, go home and be happy. Lower body- Legpresses, squats or hack-squats. Whoa.. that's it, 1 exercise. Do Abs every other day or as often as you'd like. Do not work them while they are sore though, because that means that they haven't completely healed and recovered from the last session. Oh.. how many sets and reps of each exercise? 3!! Three is all you need to do. Do 6-8 reps in each set. Make sure you are warmed up first, and then load as much weight as you can handle and do 6-8 reps with.. If you do 8 reps, then you didn't have enough weight on there. Also, try to power through your movement.. try not just to get the wieght to it's destination, but try to get it there fast (but don't jerk it keep good form). You'll find that your sessions will last 30minutes or less, and that's ok. Your goal is not to work harder, but smarter. What you are trying to do is stimulate your muscle into growth, not tear it up and destroy it so that it will rebuild bigger and stronger. This regiment has worked on everyone that I have convinced to train this way, even veteran bodybuilder/ powerlifters have benefitted from this type of training. This type of training is inspired from "Blood and Guts" by Dorian Yate's, 5 time Mr. Olympia.

It is a matter of personal preference, Deby. I personally have my palm facing to the ground. What is important with the hook is that your arm is behind the punch, in other words that your elbow is high enough. If your elbow is too low, you are slapping more than punching and have a good chance of injuring your wrist. If you elbow is too high, you are slapping with the back of your hand. Also, lead with your hips and shoulder. When you rotate your torso to punch, the last thing to come around should be the punch.. this will develop power from body mechanics and not muscle.

Did my posts on this thread get deleted? Something happened to them. I guess my views aren't appreciated. I'll re-interate my opinion. Regulating knowledge and art is wrong. This action is the first step towards dominating a persons freedom. Martial art is called "art" for a reason. It's because it is ART, it is self-expression as much as it is self-defense. Regulating a person's freedom to express themselves isn't right, and I think most can agree with that.

If a person wants to use steroids and/or supplements to increase their performance, more power to them! They'll pay the price in the end with their health. The immediate happiness can be achieved by winning using these methods, but in the end, that happiness will become grief and despair. I prefer not to do these things and maintain happiness throughout my entire life.

I feel that if a person chooses to live in a country, that person should make an effort to learn the predominate language of that country. It just makes sense to me. Yes, I know the Wai Kru and Ram Muay of my instructor. The Wai Kru and Ram Mauy vary from camp to camp. I do not think it is required to learn Muay Thai, however. The fighters here don't wear a Monkon or Praciat, my current gym right now doesn't even own a Monkon. I have a set myself, but since I do not own a gym, a person will not see it being worn until I do own my own gym. These traditions are based upon Buddhist beliefs and philosophy, so I won't expect my students to participate in learning them. Call me crazy, but I will not tell a person to do a ritual which might offend their own religious views.

Well.. hypnosis is another abstract concept that is questioned by many, and even the concept of how or why hypnosis works varies on the hypnotist. Many will say that "focusing Chi" is just a sort of self-hypnosis. Others say that when you get in the "zone" that you have hypnotised yourself to achieve greater feats. It all comes down to believing in yourself and pushing your limits beyond that which you originally think you can do. If you wish to become better at what you train in, then keep training, train hard and do not limit yourself. When you are so tired that you can't kick anymore.. kick one more time, you'll be suprised to find out that you can almost always do "just one more" if you put your mind to it.

My opinion as to why the chin causes KO's is not because of nerves or that the chin is weak. It is because if you hit the chin correctly, you will cause the head to turn on it's fulcrum of the spine. If you turn the head fast enough then the brain will move inside of the skull and will be rattled too, this is what causes KO's. As far as scoring, Danny is correct in most cases. BUT, in different cultures the scoring is different, and it varies from judge to judge. Many USA judges don't think that elbows and knees are very effective and don't score them as much as kicks. In Thailand, there are more points awarded to someone that can attack the back of their opponent. (at least is used to be this way) In some events, throws are allowed and scored also (yes, in a Muay Thai event!), in most events, throws are not legal. Your best bet is to talk to a judge and find out what their criteria is.

There are a few things that can help one kick harder and faster. Training is probably the most important. Muay Thai practitioners are always drilling the kick at every session. We kick the heavy bag, thai-pads and do light sparring to practice our form and power. The key is to concentrate on the form and hips when doing any drills with the kick. The more relaxed you throw the kick, the harder it will impact. As for the technique of the kick, and yes it does vary from camp to camp, my kick consists of a 45-degree angle step into the opponent and turning of the hip all the way over and down. When the kick is missed, the momentum will cause me to turn completely around. The kick follows through the opponent and my kicking leg is relaxed until impact is made, as soon as contact is made I kick-off of my opponent. My goal is to hit the front area of my target with the big part of my shin with all of my weight and hip power behind it. Make sure that when you kick, the supporting foot (the one that is on the ground) is pivoted so that your heel is pointed toward your target. Done correctly, when you throw the kick every part of your body will go past the centerline of your opponent with the shin and foot coming last and into your opponent. I hope that illustrates how I throw the Muay Thai round kick. It's hard to show a person technique with text, but maybe you have an idea now. Hopefully, you have found some detail there that will help you kick with more power.

Ooops.. sorry, i got you confused with Kickbutt, Deby. Anyway, opinions are opinions. If I didn't realize what language you were speaking and mistook it for Korean, that has has nothing to do with my validity as a martial arts instructor or the validity of my instructors. Some people wish to teach the native language terms for the techniques in their martial art, I choose not to really worry about it. It is the technique and concepts that are most important, not what I call these things.

Sorry. but I'm not going to learn 5 different languages because the arts I train in come from 5 different places. I am not familiar with 'levering' elbow.. maybe it's the same elbow that I use to lever out of a bear hug, but without seeing it done, i'm not sure if that's the same thing I'm talking about. The straight knee.. proper placement for this varies from school to school. Is this a straight knee that drives up, or a straight knee that drives through the opponent? Even in Muay Thai, there are differents "styles" of fighting. If it's a thrust-knee that you are talking about, I place one hand on my forehead and the other pulls, much like a round-kick. Double elbows is something I'm not familiar with. If it involves using both elbows at the same time to strike with, it's not something I would teach. I've learned all of my defenses against the clinch in numbers. I know "defense number 1, defense 2" and so-forth. What does this illustrate? That even in the english language, the terminology of techniques vary from instructor to instructor. I'm sure the same thing happens in the Thai language. If you think that I'm not a valid Muay Thai instructor because I don't speak Thai, that's your choice. It doesn't affect me because my students will still become proficient at the techniques and concepts of Muay Thai, with or without your approval. If you think I was taught wrong, then maybe you should take it up with my instructors Master Surichai Sirisute, Guro Dan Inosanto and Sifu Frank Cucci. Go ahead, look these guys up on an internet search and you'll find that these instructors are very well known and respected as great instructors and martial artists. Take up boxing, huh Lori? But boxing originated in Greece, so as americans, we shouldn't take that up without learning the proper Greek terminology. In fact, according to this 'talk the talk' concept. You should talk the native language of anything that you would interact with, right? My television is made by Sony, so I should learn how to say the Japanese words for television in order to watch it, is that right? Or.. you could say that television was invented in America, so any japanese person that wants to watch television should learn English. Hmmm.. While your opinions are your own, I do not agree with them. I also do not appreciate the questioning of my validity as a martial artist and an instructor simply because of my lack of multi-cultural linguistics. This opinion also questions the validity of my martial arts instructor's teachings, which also is not appreciated.

Aww.. I'm blushing now. You're too kind.

Tradition is very often that which keeps something from evolving. It used to be traditional for a person to learn only one martial art. Well, that thought is outdated as people have evolved past that and realized that cross-training is a very valid path to follow. There are some traditions that are good to keep, but some that are inconsequential, such as knowing the Japanese name for techniques. I teach my students "teep", but I call it "foot-jab" and they do too. Because they don't know the Thai name for it, doesn't take away from their ability to use the technique or to pass it along to another person. Break from tradition and try to think outside of the box.

Yes, but my theory is more sound than saying that 90% of martial arts came from one source, would you not agree?

I'm IFPA certified personal trainer and I don't agree with MTB's workout at all. If you want bigger shoulders, do squats! WHAT? Am I crazy? No, you need to stimulate the entire body to get max growth, so you need to do squats, chest presses, military presses and rows. That's pretty much all the movements you'll need to do. These are all compound movements that will work every part of your body. 3 sets of each at 6-8 reps is good enough.. just make sure that you have so much weight on that you can't get that 8th one. Go heavy right away, after you get warmed up. This is what works great for me and anyone else that I've gotten to stick to it. Also, if you want to gain, you need to eat enough, eat lots of high protein foods.

Actually, I cut and pasted that. I'm hoping some people here will read these fallacies and quit using them. It will make for a much more productive debate arena.

But the Egyptian symbols of wrestling and fighting are much, much older than what you are talking about. Hmm.. makes a person wonder eh? Doesn't matter though, 90% of martial arts did NOT come from China. Everywhere that there was violence, there have been martial arts. Every culture has fighting systems and 90% of them did NOT come from China.

There is a difference between good techniques and other not-so-good ones. There are many people that will have you believe that you can kill a person by touching certain "meridians". Others think that the palm-strike to the nose is a fatal move. Some even claim that a strike to the throat is deadly. While the nose strike and throat strike really hurt and CAN kill, they are not fatal in themselves. Also, it's hard to hit these areas on a person.

So if it was a Japanese car, then the mechanic should know the proper Japanese name for the fuel pump, that is if he's worth his salt. Is that right? C'mon now, your arguement is invalid and illogical. I have names for all the techniques that I do, they just aren't Thai names.

You can get a japanese gardening book and it will teach you the proper use of Kama. hehhe.. J/K

What's great about pepper spray is that you can use it to really add some kick to your meals. If you can't find the tabasco, reach for your spray. Yummy!!!

Jackie Chan got beat twice by Bruce Lee in "Enter the Dragon". Jackie played one of the numerous extras that Bruce Lee beat up in that movie. Interesting, huh? Anyway, I feel Lee would've won any fight against Jackie.. It's because Bruce Lee was a fighter first and actor 2nd. Jackie Chan's "martial art" training is specifically designed for show and theatre, in other words, Jackie Chan is just and actor with limited "real" martial art training. I'm not saying Jackie couldn't hold his own, but that's just not his bag.