SevenStar

I dunno... in thailand, it's not uncommon for a fighter to have fights once a week. That's why there are 21 year olds there who have had like 90 fights... it's possible for them to fight weekly.

definitely running and skipping rope. with full contact righting, matches are 3 mins long. consequently, I skip and shadow box in three minute rounds. with running, work your way up to at leasy 3 miles per session, ideally 5. run three days per week. on alternate days, if you have time, do wind sprints. I guratantee you will be ready for your next fight, stamina-wise.

looking at those excerpts, he went to china to become a bone doctor. he already knew three jujutsu techniques. after meditating, he used his knowledge of anatomy to expand on his three techniques. That does not imply that CMA had an influence on jujutsu. Here is something I just found about jujutsu history and gempin: "Although the origin of Jujutsu is not clear, and no fixed date of its first appearance can be ascertained, there is no doubt that it is a purely Japanese art. Further, it has not been derived from ancient Chinese Martial Arts as some scholars of the martial arts have proposed. It has been a common belief of various researchers that a Chinese priest named Chin Genpin brought the art of Kempo, "kicking and striking", to Japan around 1659. In 1659, Chin Genpin became a naturalized Japanese subject and died in 1671. "

I've been researching yoshitoki on thenet, and here are some things I've come across: "Hakuda (Baida in China) was introduced to Japan in the early 17th century by a Nagasaki physician name Akiyama Shirobei Yoshitoki who learned this hard percussive art, and resuscitation techniques while studying medicine in China. Akiyama later changed his philosophy to an art of pliancy, thus today he is considered one of the inspirations for Yoshin-ryu Ju-jitsu. Akiyama was possibly the first person to introduce a pure striking art to mainland Japan." In the next excerpt, notice that is says he knew three jujutsu techniques, not chin na techniques: "Yoshin Ryu Jujitsu, the "School of the Willow Heart" or "School of the Willow Spirit," presumably founded by Akiyama Shirobei Yoshitoki, a physician from Nagasaki, is one of the Edo-period jujitsu schools that is best known here in the West. This style or ryu dates back to sometime before 1671. Yoshitoki felt that the jujitsu techniques he had learned were not sufficient in number, so he retreated to Tenmangu Shrine, where he devoted himself to meditation for one hundred days, during which time he developed 303 techniques of his own. One snowy day when Akiyama Yoshitoki was still on retreat in Tenmangu Shrine, he happened to notice a willow tree on the shrine grounds. Despite the recent heavy snows, this willow, unlike some of the other trees on the grounds, did not have even a single branch broken. The Willow branches simply yielded and allowed the snow to fall off; then the branches sprung back with great force, thereby saving the tree. This yielding principle was not only understood to be an essential element of the warrior arts of ancient Japan, but have been perfected through there test of time to the present." The question is where these people got their story from. Regardless, it lends a hand in saying that nobody really knows.

we know that ideally you should train both. But, the initial topic was if you HAD to pick one or the other, which would it be and why...

it's not like that where I train. similar, but not the same. A white belt can't even think about testing for blue until he can keep up with the blue belts all of the time and beat them at least some of the time. a blue can't test for purple until he can keep up with and beat the purple's. the same for the levels above that, but in addition, you will have to compete - making it a requirement that you can keep up with the level above you ensures progression. for the lower levels, competition is not a requirement, but most of us compete anyway.

"boards"? you're referring to jjj and not bjj, right? judo is like that as well. the only time you have to go before the board to test, however, is for black belt and any degree of black belt. We don't spend class time working specifically on board stuff though - we just train. we have our own curriculum based on usji guidelines of what should be on each rank test. In addition, we focus on modified techniques and competition oriented stuff.

not really. I work in IT. If I made a joke that were IT related, chances are that a politician may not get it. Likewise, if someone into quantam physics made a quantam physics related joke, I likely would not get it.

what? How?? no matter how hard you hit it, it weighs the same. There is no progressive resistance there... you are using the bag improperly if this is the case for you. watch a pro boxer, thai boxer, etc. - they move while they are hitting the bag. To get caught up in power only and not moving is a newbie mistake, basically. one of the most fluid guys I know is a karate practitioner. He trained in his hometown of kumamoto, japan. good karate is very fluid.

I agree and disagree with str33t guy - he is right in that indurance exercises are merely that and won't help your explosiveness or power, however, I disagree with his assessment of big biceps and puffy chest. 1. the bench press is not an isolation movement. Pavel even recommends the bench press. 2. the bis and tris are worked to some extent when you do other compound exercises, so they will be trained as well. As far as building explosiveness with weights, they WILL do that. some of the most explosive athletes in the world are powerlifters. Why? because of the strength training. when you are training for power, you are really training your neuromuscular system - you are training it to contract harder...the harder the contraction, the higher the output - this aids in explosiveness.

Uh...ok...? I got it I was referring specifically to our latest comments - being hard to take you down and mine about there being no guarantee you would hit me - both comments are pointless.

nor does ours. However, you can slip and fall while standing on those same surfaces, or be forced down. luckily, that wasn't my intent. Otherwise, I may be disappointed... therein lies your problem. you are thinking in terms or merely someone sitting on you. NOT someone sitting on you with proper technique. Heck, for that matter, any punch is a schoolboy tactic and is easily dealt with. you actually hitting me is no guarantee either... However, what if scenarios are stupid, so we may as well not even go that route.

the same can be said for a striker. try kicking in slippery urine... how good is your movement in a crowded bar?...how long will you last with several of my friends around?... two sides, same coin.

try to hit them - you'd be surprised at the results... in a proper mount, my knees are diggin into your armpits. it will be a chore for you to hit me anywhere at all.from side mount, the hips are pressed to the ground AND my knee is in your armpit- you won't be reaching them from there either. The most feasible place is if you are in my guard - and that' may be where you have the highest chance of getting your arm broken by extending it to hit me in the nads...

gempin is the man I was referring to. What do the scrolls say?

What all is offered in your area?

or while you are closing distance.

chinese culture did indeed have influence on japanese culture - that's no secret. What you are referring to is kanji. The non chinese based characters are katakana.

I've heard the story of the physician, but it's not verifiable. there are several stories, and that is one of them. I heard it slightly different though. What I heard was that a chinese physician studied kempo and in his studies and travels came across a chin na specialist. He was shown three locks, which he showed to three japanese men he befriended later, after travelling to japan. Those three men expanded on the locks and created the first three styles of jujutsu. I've had this same conversation three different forums, but nobody has proven a direct link between the two. chinese shuai chiao may have had an influence on sumo - there are similarities there - but the jury is out on jujutsu.

Thats the only one I know of- whats the other one you're talking about? There are two in judo. With the other version , the arm does not wrap around the the crown of the head the hands are interlocked with a monkey (4 finger) grip. http://judoinfo.com/hadaka.jpg it can be either an air or blood choke.

forget about the death touch.

same weight class. I've been considering dropping to light heavy though. I usually hover around 220, and in judo, that usually means I'm the smallest guy in my division. I've had to compete with guys who weigh over 300. It's fun in that I really have to use skill to beat them, but at the same time, it sucks. in thai boxing, it's not as much of an issue.

yeah, you may want to get checked out. I recently went to the doc for something similar. Turns out I had fractured my shin and didn't know. stress fractures are fairly common and can get much worse i f they go untreated and unrested.

I do sometimes - but I am primarily an infighter. I want to be close so I can use hooks, clinch and knee. covering like that helps to protect from any other strikes that may come as I shoot in. I disagree with topic about re-cocking the hands, unless you are a short guy. there are thais who intentionally try to punch downward for the increased power added to the strike. Also, if you are a shorter guy and are fighting a taller guy, your hands need to be high anyway in order to successfully parry him. When I fight taller guys, I try to keep my thumbs at eyebrow height. when fighting from the outside, I either parry, catch or slip.

you mentioned before that your dad will spar with you - what did he train in?