SevenStar

I don't think there is an exact number. the general reccomendation is 1g for the avg. and 1.5 - 2 if you do heavy training.

we do the same thing in my thai class typically, but in bjj we count them out.

my guess is you misunderstood. here's a very basic break down of obtaining various results: low sets (1-3), low reps (3-5), very heavy weight: this builds power. medium sets (4-6), medium reps (6-, heavy weight: this builds mass high sets (6+), high reps (8-20), light - medium weight: this builds endurance. unless you are very small and very weak, 6 sets of 8 pushups will not help much in the mass department. Also, you are basically doing 48 reps of the same muscle movement - you are in the endurance category. When you finish, you may notice that you look "pumped". you will also notice that the pump is gone after a few hours. The "pump" is mere your muscles being flooded with blood from the preceeding activity you had. this is common with mass and endurance workouts. I call it the false pump. Definitely stick with the pushups, but not with the goal of gaining mass...

doing pushups slow will not help anything really. Doing things slowly is actually counter productive to your goal with weight training in regards to MA. slow training does not build explosivity. explosiveness is the product of hard neuromuscular contractions. This is produced by powerful, quick movement. second, pushups aren't good strength building exercises. pushups are endurance exercises. once you can do more than 20 or so, you really aren't building strength anymore, but rather muscular endurance. That's not a bad thing though - it's a good one - which is why many people still do them.

http://www.trainforstrength.com try a few of these workouts. pace yourself with them - they will likely be too much you at first, but you will build up. Also, invest in some free weights - they are the best way for you to improve your strength. What is your current training schedule like?

you have to put your foot down. even of you choose to do what they say inside the dojo, outside, they are powerless over you. Of course, they can choose to make your life worse inside because you don't do what they say outside, but you can just as easily find another school.

disagree. Get into a ring and get your butt kicked. that teaches you humbleness as well. Roll with the guys in class that are better than you - that teaches humbleness also. getting beaten keeps your ego in check, not somebody shouting orders at you. All that does is make you a better slave. Where I train, we share responsibilities. We take turns mopping the mats, moving equipment, etc. instructors and assistants do it as well. As for discipline, dedication to your training will instill that - you don't need anyone telling you what to do.

1. mass wont' mess up your body frame. 2. bruce was awesome, but isn't known for being the most informed around when it came to strength training 3. you can use free weights and get stronger without gaining mass - you will see more benefit from this than you would from machines any day.

that's not necessarily true either. If it were, there would be no need for weight classes and featherweights would KO heavyweights. I see where you're going - technique is a must - but you can't downplay proper attributes training.

pro athletes also focus on strength training. However, you may be equating mass training with power training - they aren't necessarily the same.

sticking with your example of the clinch, let's not forget that the clinch is used ALL THE TIME by wrestlers, judoka and bjj guys. How effective are your knees when I'm pressed against you smothering all space? how effective are knees and elbows when I am controlling your balance? since we are clinched, you are fighting in my domain. there are infinite throws and takedowns to do from there - you would likely get taken down before you could KO him. as far as it being a primary resort, why not?

both, but I am a big fan of principles. Once you learn the basics, understanding the principles is what will really help you to advance.

because the ones who said they don't fight how they train probably lied. When you train, you are TRAINING yourself - repeatedly drilling these motions into your muscle memory. they become second nature. It's not so easy to just instantly re-program yourself - especially in a high adrenaline situation like a streetfight. actually, I agree with that statement.

No it's not...

Why would it suck? it makes you less prone to get knocked out...

I completely disagree. martial sports ARE martial arts. why do people think that judo, boxing, muay thai, etc. are any less martial than "traditional styles"? IMO, it actually betters the art in that it produces a wider range of capable MAs.

ah, you're on the opposite side of the state, then. who is the bjj coach affiliated with?

I don't think any of US disagree with that. but there are people who do, which is what str33t guy was originally commenting on. Also, there are alot of threads on this forum that say "if you HAD to pick one or the other, which would it be and why?"

the thing about fitness routines is that not everyone can follow them. different people have different tolerance levels when it comes to overtraining. However, what I do is nothing compared to how a pro fighter would train...

agreed.

low ones won't. WTF??

depends on where you are. where I train bjj we do alot of stand up work. it's clinch work, takedown defense and takedowns though generally, not throws. I attend two judo clubs. At one, the instructor was a 3 time national champ - we do alot of groundwork there. at the other school, one of the instructors competes at a world level and is a master of sport in sambo. The second instructor competed and placed at the world level also. We do no groundwork at all there. However, we do it for a reason - everyone in that class also trains bjj. It allows us to work our standup only.

where is rocky top?

agreed

as far as americans or westerners in general vs thais, yes, I would say that from what I've seen, westerners have much better hands.