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I think we should define people just learning to fight with no philosophically or spiritual aspects to their art, Martial Craftsman and the other that does inclulde it is a Martial Artist.

That's what Old Jujutsu is all about, that's where everything came from.

So TJJ is for competition? Not that I've ever experienced.

That's the same as TJJ, except it takes longer and is more difficult to apply locks while standing, but you can always strike the person first and then throw them. Yes, Jujitsu emphasizes on locks, throws, takedowns, controlling, punches, kicks, head strikes, knife hand, knees, elbows, body strikes, weapons, falling and rolling. Oh yeah, discipline and respect for others.

Batosai Imora said: I didn't say body mechanics is superior. I said it is the most important aspect to fighting. I agree with you that you must be mentally prepared to fight and have no fear when fighting. I understand that because I've been in real fights many times. The more I trained the less scared I was and the easier it got to makes the bozo attacking me fall on his face. If you know how to move they'll beat themselves up for you. Body mechanic, knowing how to move and strike, etc, and keep your balance whether you landed a punch or not is the key. Just because someone can punch and kick hard doesn't mean anything if what you are trying to hit isn't there and the next thing you know you are on your back. Take it easy on the insults bro, you are better than that.

Well put.

I just think BJJ has better training standards than most TJJ and Hapkido, but it depends on the school.

The only thing about BJJ is that they don't cover evasion well, striking, or weapons. These aspects of fighting can be very important if someone pulls a knife or has a club, etc... So it all depends on what kind of training you are looking for.

Make it short and sweet, then run Forest run!

It's all about understanding how to manipulate your opponents balance.

I don't yell.

Martial Arts is learning to fight so you don't have to fight.

Specialization is dangerous when you take the specialist somewhere he is not familiar with they don't adapt well. I think Kodokan Judo is all you need to defend yourself against almost anyone. The thing that MA's lack today is the reality of walking away from a fight. If you doubt you can take this person attacking you, withdraw. Your health and your life are more important than your pride. Know your strengths and your limits, also realize what you are learning doesn't make you invincible. Anyway I have a lot of respect for all the MA's mentioned here, but I do have to say that Hapkido is the most rounded mentioned here. It is an incredibly well balanced MA.

It really depends on the type of Jujutsu and what the teacher puts emphasis on. If they are adapting the Jujutsu to modern needs and they train hard and do randori, then you can't go wrong. Unless you have experience with other MA or you just have a good understanding of fighting you should be effective enough to protect yourself fairly well in a short time. I do think that if you want to be effective in a short time you are wasting your time with Jujutsu or any of the viable MA's. Even the most basic of strikes, kicks and throws can be learned quickly, but the finer points are what make you efficient and effective.

Hapkido has plenty of ground work. It is very complete and effective. The training methods are usually more rigorous in BJJ. Basically Hapkido will do you well as will BJJ. Hapkido is the closest thing I've seen to Budo Taijutsu and Real Japanese Jujutsu. I'd go to some schools and train with them and see what fits you better.

The important thing to notice with Judo is that if you adjust your throws slightly you can actually throw your opponent onto their head. Depending on what surface you are fighting on, it will knock them out or damage them severly. Judo throws were altered Jujutsu throws which were not meant to be nice. Judo can be extremely lethal and much more efficient than BJJ. However BJJ is dominant on the ground if they can survive the throw.

That's why I feel Taijutsu (Body Dynamics) is the most important part of fighting. Knowing how to move and what happens to you and your opponent when you move. Merely moving to the right place at the right time will cause your opponent to be off balance and at your mercy. So the basics are the most important thing to learn, but from the basics come infinite technique and solutions. There shouldn't be a different way of moving for every technique. There should be one way of moving for all the techniques. Of course this depends on what kind MA we are talking about. Most Grappling Arts I think have a way to move and everything stems from those basics. It's just a smart way of teaching.

Fear is good and will keep you alive if you listen. Fear of death is normal, but there comes a point when you accept it. If you are in a situation that is life threatening and you accept that you are already dead, you have a better chance of surviving. You will task the risks necessary in order to survive when you consider yourself dead already. If you are being attacked and you accept your death and fight you will win. Someone with nothing to lose are the most dangerous people.

I hear people say that you will forget what you know or only be able to do techniques in a real situation due to adrenaline dump. Not everyone has that reaction. People who have been in alot of fights and train hard will have less of this. Philosophy and training your mind to be disciplined is rarely ever talked about here. It's all in your head. If you can train your mind you will react calmly and you will defeat your opponent.

Well if you are a Muay Thai Warrior then congratulations. We all know that the warriors had to go through that most people went through regular life.

Aikido teaches you how to move and to use your opponents force and balance against them. Controlling someone's balance is the most important aspect of fighting, without balance what good are you? Aikido teaches this well. It is not an easy art to learn, but once you do it can be devasting to an attacker.

Well I've read that weapons were taught to Muay Thai warriors back in the day, but they don't teach the weapons anymore. I really believe that if some MA is going to be considered a Combat MA it has to have extensive weapons training for 2 reasons. 1) If you are going to fight in a battle you are going to absolutely need weapons. In pre-gun history they were more than likely using spears, knives, clubs, swords, and arrows, etc. 2) The weapons training teaches speed, balance, distance and timing among other very important aspect to fighting. The weapon, the sword for example is an extension of your arm or body. With a weapon in hand your errors or flaws in technique will be amplified by 10 times. So in order to perfect your unarmed combat skills you must practice weapons. This all depends upon the kind of MA you are studying. Sport MA's don't fit into this category, because there concerns are different. I hope this helps.

Well I've read that weapons were taught to Muay Thai warriors back in the day, but they don't teach the weapons anymore. I really believe that if some MA is going to be considered a Combat MA it has to have extensive weapons training for 2 reasons. 1) If you are going to fight in a battle you are going to absolutely need weapons. In pre-gun history they were more than likely using spears, knives, clubs, swords, and arrows, etc. 2) The weapons training teaches speed, balance, distance and timing among other very important aspect to fighting. The weapon, the sword for example is an extension of your arm or body. With a weapon in hand your errors or flaws in technique will be amplified by 10 times. So in order to perfect your unarmed combat skills you must practice weapons. This all depends upon the kind of MA you are studying. Sport MA's don't fit into this category, because there concerns are different. I hope this helps.

Yes I am being taught to fight with and without weapons. Yes we learn awareness and other observational skills. We learn about terrain and how to modify the way you fight depending on where you are. Hard contact is necessary and I would decribe the MA I study as a multi-purpose Combat style.

Snuff the jab by following it in the outside of it, and throw the bastard.