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8/7 50 sit ups 50 push ups Kihon. Kata and kata application. (Tensho) Legs! lots of legs.

hmm ...nice read. OK so how about what you personally keep in mind when sparring, competing, training etc. For example when fighting I always hold (as law in my mind) 'Fight the man not the grade' .............. ..... .

2/7 40 sits ups 50 push ups wuko (sport fights) - a hand full of 1 min bouts light run 1/4 mile 3/7 80 push ups 80 sit ups. kata ren raku kihon 1 mile run bag work - about half an hour (over all) 5/7 rest day.

26/6 2 hour kata, kihon and ren-raku 90 situps 90 pushup (these hurt)

...I hear that!

Tuesday: 25/6 Some leg work, some arm work some kata for about an hour. 2 mile walk, nothing excessive, I've a primary training session on Wednesday (tonight) ...!

Enjoy summer camp charlewisoe. Such an illustrious line up can only make for good times and treasured memories ... enjoy!

Sosai Oyma, Took up Judo - 1951! http://www.mas-oyama.com/cgi-bin/english/siteup.cgi?category=1&page=0 What grade I cannot see listed on this site...hmmm This site, takes an age to load sometimes, but judo is listed but no details: http://www.masutatsuoyama.com/en/home/masoyama.htm I've a book book written by Sosai, I'll review see if it mentions any detail. An awesome find 50p on a second hand book market - Vital karate Other books to get: This is karate Advanced Karate. Edit: ah here's a site (as an example) http://www.masutatsuoyama.com/en/home/masoyama.htm 4th Dan, which I what I was always told.

Yes!the next step for me is a bag in the garage... at the moment I'm trying to catch a builder friend at home to see if he still has any 'railway sleepers' (he had eight a while back) left for me to have one! Maybe sink it into the garden hang some bags on it and work with it! (Saves evicting the car from the garage and parking on the road if he has one left)

After joining this forum and as a fan of NCIS and Agent Gibbs, I wonder what we all hold important in our minds or hearts when we train. Think of it as a top ten or top three (top 100 things, whatever) list of things we consider important and why? We all have different styles we love, we enjoy we have followed for years, and we all have ideas (good/bad/upside down) about other schools. Fancy sharing some philosophy & teachings and remove the smoke and mirrors?

Etiquette is decided by the individual, imho, for the most part. However, checking in with the individual school should be a consideration. That's, imho, a personal decision that a practitioner has to make for themselves. Give respect to each separate style as they deserve and be loyal to them all, knowing that when at one style, the other style(s) will have a different mindset across the board. One has to be considerate across the board. Grade as you see appropriate. Grade in both if you desire, no matter how long it might take because rank isn't set on a time schedule; it'll happen when it happens and not until then. If you respect both styles across the board to the best of your abilities, I don't see any reason(s) that you won't be welcomed at both. Respect goes along, long way. I believe that you'll be just fine. Why? You've taken the first steps in considering the big picture towards betterment. Good luck, hang in there, and train hard!! Etiquette, is whatever that dojo requests. Each club, style is unique and will want to show that to all who look. For example Kyokushin hold the back hand high under there armpit where shotokan hold the back hand next to the hip! As to grades in one or the other, to use Kyokushin as an example, learn both (or all three etc) , Sosai Oyama held Dan grades in both Shotokan and Judo, before he created Kyokushinkai. Accept each on its own merits, learn and I would stress enjoy.

An old thread, but a good one. Sparring is the best way to get better, to practice that movement you like that feels good, get that 'explosive' edge and get the win! Have you considered training at another dojo (as in addition to) as well as your own dojo? You get the extra sparring, and 'other' targets with different skill sets to work with to enhance your skills etc.

This is exactly what I'm saying, its all to easy to just say 'monster' and thats it...all done were all viewed with fear, and distrust. I was involved in an opposite situation that developed some years back. In that situation the 'guy' next door (1st floor flat) forgot to close his front door whilst he beat his wife......I felt it was an invite to me to come in and..um..discuss the matter with him. The police arrived and found no fault in my actions, rather offered to take me to ER for a check over seeing as a rather large clock had fallen on me during the discussions. They eventually caught him a few weeks later (he had jumped out the window to get away that night) and pressed charges using the records from my visit to ER and his wife's testimony. The police were very clear that they viewed my actions to be exactly what the law allowed! (to my shame I broke a knuckle (when the clock hit me knocking me side ways) as I was making a specific point...and caught the knuckle on the corner of the wall)

hehehe I felt like the pigeon in that bag full of cats!

Some senseis I've worked with always pick up students when this occurs, ....for as much as I brashly say 'firmly on the floor', I have to admit its appears to me to be a matter of timing. The back foot does lift to allow the body to swivel easier, if this is when you are observed then you are said to have you heel of the floor. If you are observed at the moment of contact....well done there is only about 6ft between the two points ..... The heel will rise when you recover! Like I say timing; have I done this? yes, have I corrected this? I hope so, will I do this again? yes its an involuntary action IMO. A fight is fluid your attacker will not stand and wait they will move which will in your subconscious mind have you extend to 'still' try and make contact with your target......up pops the heel for the extra 2-3 inches!

Please don't misunderstand, I agree the idea of a 'stamp' be it to the head or not is going to be a point of contention, I have no doubt in that it is a nasty kick a painful kick for sure! As such I whole heatedly agree with the need/advice to be carefully! My concern is the apparent ease (not Kusotare in this chat) that people generally and in my experience the people who do not practice martial arts jump to the monster stereo type a Martial artist is labelled with when things get heated or worse. the ease that we have this interest in a far eastern culture and to that that we have been taught how to fight. Rather than lash out with a left hook hey-maker or some odd kick thing with our leg, we know how to punch or can select a point on the attacker to kick to get them to back down or away. It seems to me its easier for other just to say monster and leave it at that, its wrong and I'm of the opinion that we should do more to make others understand this.

In my haste (I am at work officially) If I missed a meaning or a comment about 'passing' students no matter what blah, blah sorry all I'll work on that. I failed No I agree if you were not good enough you fail. no question or discussion, take the failure as a way to focus and do better next time, no matter what the age or relationship to you the student is.

"...tantamount to murder.".....that's a little extreme don't you think? The 'kick' is called 'Kansetsu geri' its function is just that a stamp to your would be attacker! I can't speak to the laws on mainland Europe, or the US here in the UK the law says: "A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large." That particular use of the work 'reasonable' has been a sticky point and under new changes to said law the 'victim' is now allowed to use the force they have to, to defend them selves. To place its 'protection' of a person into context, and to take into account other provisions made in law as an example the following has been sited: (in aid of the victim) "..son shot dead his father to protect his mother from a serious assault, believing that this was the only practical way of defending her given his small physical size." The key in the main is not the act or the action but the reference to size and options open to the 'son' If such a kick was used in a 'street fight' would it not be more accurate to say 'excessive force' rather than murder, when all you are doing is protecting yourself or your mum of..... I'm not picking an argument here rather trying to set better understanding and not give rise to panic of others as well as none Martial arts in that we are not bullies nor are we to considered unstable. We are not vigilantes, we are not soon to be murderers, we have control we can be trusted we understand respect, humility and law. Our skill should be understood to mean that as such we will apply what 'is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime', if we have to be in that mind set at all.

Cool, it is also how I weigh up an fight. Clicker has me use my foot, it gives me speed, range all things I'm looking for. Knockdown on the other hand has me use shin, for the obvious reasons, unless I go Jodan, then maybe I use the ball of the foot.

That is so true. The magic word....learn... To do that we fight to see a thing before a thing happens.

we keep our support foot firmly on the floor! Simple physics, the whole foot has more grip than the ball of the foot. Sure a sweep will take out the support (back) leg, but should your opponent evade your kick and punch you (your back leg is still on its own at this time) you have a better chance of holding your position even double up the strike to the head. Question: When you kick a Chudan Mawashi Geri. What part of the foot do you hit/strike with? Haisoku (top of the foot) Shin (Lower shin to foot area) ... .. ?

Where I live there is a mile long path around a lake/pond! I run around it, as part of my weekend routine! There is a steep bank to one side which I sprint up 3-4 times to change up the pressure sometimes. On another side there is 5 steps (storm water over flow drain) which I jump up and down (bunny hop) along the 100'ish meter length. (if dry, a little to slippery when the steps are wet) Push ups, sit ups I'll do at home, the walk to and from this lake/pond works as both my warm up and warm down. About 2-3 hrs in all mixing in kata, kihon & Ren Raku to break up and space out the exercises I do. I might add swimming to this as well just not sure where yet!

100% yes. For example: Kyokushin has roots in Shotokan, and was the reason, when I was unable to train in Kyokushin I worked mostly with Shotokan clubs. Bad Idea! Fun and well worth the experience but a bad idea all the same. The little differences between some of the basics really stand out when you are the only one doing it 'wrong'!

hehehehe I love the 'shoot it...twice' answer that's the best. I've always been taught and I still hold it a true mind set today: Fight the man not the grade! If you must fight win! If you can defuse the situation do so. Don't run at the first chance, this only empowers them. Do not lash out... You give reason, courage, desire and the moral high ground to your would be attacker to attack you instead. Accept there are 'animals' out there in this world who can and will beat you...one of them might be the guy on the mat/in the ring in front of you, give no reason for them to prove it.

Bounce .... don't bounce.. It comes down to the fighter: (Hoping this works) An 8 min video, enjoy. Watch all of the video upto 55secs then jump forward for some 'nice' examples! 0:55 1:12 1:24 1:36 1.40 Its all down to the fight and the fighter, some bounce some don't, some do both ! __________________________________________________________________ A fav bit in that film has little to do with bounce or not, but with desire. Have a look at 4:27, the loser took his eyes off the game and paid the price. Then 4:32, the green belt (3rd kyu) is fighting a ShoDan, he sees the ShoDan is faltering and ....pow! Fight the man not the grade! __________________________________________________________________