
MuayThai Fighter
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Over rated Bruce Lee.
MuayThai Fighter replied to DeLamar.J's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I always believe Bruce Lee to be a very good fighter and still do,but how good is the question? Personally he was probably better actor then martial artist. Think about it,no one can really be the best fighter,there's always someone there that's quicker and tougher,regardless of how good you are. Also you realize the only reason Bruce Lee was as fast as he was,is because he took Hash which calms you down and helps you to relax and at same time be faster. Apparently he sometimes took steroids too,not for size obviously as you can tell by looking at how thin he was,but for toning and for strength,which proves he wasn't as good as people think. I think he was probably good enough fighter to still win some fights on street ,but still a little over rated.He knew his shit that's for sure and had good theories,so I do still respect the guy,plus his movies are awesome. Whether he really was a good martial artist or just a good actor makes no difference,he was very smart he got to alot of people,and to this day has an influence on alot of people ,despite his death so many years ago.Any person that can have that effect,does deserve respect. His son sucked as an actor though.I don't like any of Brandon's movies except Kung Fu that also had David Kardin in it.The grasshopper movie.LOL -
stance in real life
MuayThai Fighter replied to blood talon's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I agree and disagree. First of all you're right Aikido can change a person,teach one to learn to control their temper and understand why people act the way they,but so do other martial arts styles. As someone who has done traditional arts for 12yrs.before changing to muay thai,I agree that traditional arts is also good for conditioning and training who you are. However I disagree that traditional arts can be good for self-defense infact,when it comes to that,they are useless,people like you just don't want to hear the truth.To say an Aikido person would win over a muay thai person is B.S. Everyone or most people anyways know that muay thai is known as one of the most deadly martial arts of all time.We kick with shins,knees,use elbows etc. I have never done Aikido before but would like to one day,but I can definitely tell you against a muay thai fighter you guys would be history. No individual art can beat a muay thai kickboxer,only non-traditional mixed styles would beat a muay thai person. I do Pankration which is one of the unbeatable arts since pankration is muay thai combined with grappling.When you can fight both stand up and on ground it is hard to be beat. When I compete I fight muay thai. Arts like pankration,shoot fighting,savate and a few others will almost never be beat in competition,we can fight any style and win. Muay Thai on its own is very deadly,in fact the best stand up fighting style,so imagine what it is like when combined with submission wrestling. If Aikido can beat a muay thai fighter or most other styles how come they never compete in UFC?The reason is because they know they'd lose big time.Traditional arts for this same reason won't bother trying to get into the octagon. A muay thai fighter with only 4 months training would most likely kick butt on a person with 10 or more years experience of Aikido. The only way I can imagine Aikido working in a real fight is if it is mixed with other styles like muay thai,boxing and other mixed styles that I mentioned earlier,or being practiced by people who have several years experience in MA already. I've been in MA. for 16yrs.I did karate for 12yrs.and Pankration I've now been doing for 4yrs.There is no way an Aikido person would beat me in competition if they competed neither would tradtional arts. -
stance in real life
MuayThai Fighter replied to blood talon's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I use southpaw stance too,because I'm a muay thai fighter,besides only stance that makes any sense. Do you not agree though that southpaw,even though considered a stance in martial arts, isn't really a stance,because don't most people stand that way to fight anyways,unless they are in traditional arts like karate,tae kwon do,all the useless styles? -
stance in real life
MuayThai Fighter replied to blood talon's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
The only stance that would work in a real life situation is a muay thai fighting stance,we call south paw. South paw isn't really a stance,because if you think about it,most normal people stand that way in a real fight even without martial arts. -
stance in real life
MuayThai Fighter replied to blood talon's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
If I got into a fight with you,I'd be laughing to see you go into a stance thinking I'm going to be threatened,going into any stance in a real situation is the worst thing to do and also the best way to lose.I can't believe every one here is saying what kind of stance is good in a real fight. Kata stances are useless both in competition and on street,I don't even know why people bother learning and practicing them. The only stance I can see working is to just stand naturally like most people would in a fight,but still using hips like in martial arts. -
Yes, same here. We start with Taikyoku Shodan then in the Heians. I take it you do Goju Ryu as well? I did Taikyoku Gedan,Taikyoku chudan,Taikyoku Jodan. Then I learnt Mawashi Uke,Kake Uke, Gick si Itch,Gick si ni,Sanchin,Tensho,Saifa,Sanseiru,Shi sho chin,Seipai I learnt the bo,tonfa and sai of course. My favourite weapon was bo (staff). I was a 2nd degree black belt in Goju Ryu,used to teach kids' classes and sometimes adults,but mostly kids. I don't teach now because I quit 4 yrs.ago and went onto a different style known as Pankration,which is much better because they don't waist time with B.S katas.
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I did Goju Ryu and Meibu Kan karate for 12yrs.I remember doing Taikyoku Gedan,one of the easiest to learn but also one of the most painful on your knees. I have 2nd Dan in Goju Ryu.I no longer do karate I now do pankration,a style that does both MuayThai and Submission Wrestling. I learnt alot more about self-defense in 4yrs.of pankration then I did in my 12yrs.of karate. I would never go back to doing Goju or any other traditional arts,because I've come to realize that katas are nothing but a waist of time,they are useless for self-defense. I know some katas have hidden techniques which could work in a real fight,but very few.Besides most instructorsknow their katas very well but don't know the bunkai,I knew the bunkai to mine but that's me. Katas are just pre-arranged forms,and away of fighting imaginary opponents, while hurting your knees after along time of doing them.Myknees have been screwed up since I last did karate. I believe the stances in traditional arts would never work on the street,for example go into a shiko dachi stance and I could kick you in nuts or sweep your legs from underneath you.I might not be able to kick someone between their legs when they are in a sanchin stance,but how about kneeing them in groin? Karate can be good for posture,co-ordination,focus,balance and some conditioning through kata.Karate is great if that's all you care about and keeping you fit,but as far as self-defense is concerned,it is garbage no offense,but it is true. Think about it,in a real fight you won't be punching or kicking air or going into those weird stances.and point sparring is useless,in a real confrontation you are not looking to score points so why train this way. To win a real fight you not only have to have good technique but you also have to be quick,be able to punch hard,block all types of punches,most of all you have to be able to take a hit. If you always sparr points and have never been in a real situation,well if you ever do get in that position and you can't take a hit,you'll be going down fast. Think about it,hitting with full contact gives best results,if it doesn't why is it karate,kung fu,and tae kwon do people never fight in UFC. To win a fight you have think and feel like a fighter,basically you have to see yourself in their shoes.You have to know how they think and realize what can happen in a real situation. In Pankration we learn and practice all our techniques on a class mate and apply them as taught and find other ways which it may be able to be used.When we sparr,we always sparr full contact never point sparring,we get straight to the point,no BS.point stuff and no katas. Hey budd,I'm Canadian too,but I'm from Vancouver. ps. I used to compete at those Tiger Balm tournaments,but I'm higher up then that due to Pankration,I know fight in a ring.
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If you want mixed arts go to a school that teaches mixed arts don't try and learn two different arts on your own,you'll learn nothing that way,it could become confusing. The difference between kickboxing and muay thai,well they are both forms of kickboxing,however when people say kickboxing they usually talking about the american kickboxing which is boxing with karate kicks. Muay Thai also has boxing techniques,however their kicks aren't karate kicks.Muay Thai have a special way of kicking like no other style,they use shins instead of the top of foot,when doing a round house kick.Trust me shins hurt alot more.We shin kick to inner and outer thigh,ribs,head,but we do usually prefer to keep our kicks low to thigh area and sweep.Also unlike American kickboxing,Muay Thai fighters have the ability to use their knees,and elbows as weapons,while throwing person off balance and neck wrestle, from stand up position of course. Muay Thai is more aggressive and more dangerous both in ring and on street. Ever thought of doing something like shooto or pankration,which are both styles that do MuayThai and Submission Wrestling,personally I don't know the difference between the two,I assume that they are just from different countries.I do pankration but fight muay thai. What the heck is Krav maga?
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Personally I prefer stand up,especially since I'm tall and it's what I do best,the fact that some people say grappling is better and all stand up fighters suck is simply not true. If a stand up fighter hits someone hard enough or knows where to hit(such as upper cut)the grappler won't be able to fight any more cause he will have been knocked out cold,at same time if a grappler manages to throw or wrestle a stand up fighter to the ground before he is able to punch or kick anything then the stand up fighter will lose. Both have their advantage.I prefer stand up though.I however know grappling as well because I take Pankration which is MuayThai Kickboxing combined with Submission Wrestling,so it helps alot.So I can definitely grapple too,but as far as competition is concerned I like to fight as a MuayThai Fighter. The best fighters are the ones who know both stand up and grappling, this will make a person an all rounded fighter. For this reason I'd say best styles are ones like Pankration,Shoot Fighting,and Savate and others that have both stand up and ground fighting.
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I agree with most of what you're saying,it is true that there is a difference between fighting and self-defense,however I disagree about the action ,reaction you made since I have used my martial arts in a real fight against someone else who happened to know martial arts too,we had gone to same high school.I've been in other fights where a guy went to hit me,I avoided it and dropped him. A person might throw a punch,but if he misses your reaction will be better then his action.Same as if he goes to kick you,but you end up grabbing his leg then you have the upper hand since you can sweep out his other leg or push him on to his butt and then start stamping on him. It all depends on situation and how good of a street fighter both of you are,and how well your martial arts has taught you to react. Look at these boxers who get punched and they duck and come up with an upper cut which knocks the guy out. If you have good technique and are a good street fighter to begin with you will be able to react pretty good and hopefully quick enough not to get your butt kicked. In a fight it can go both ways. Maybe you're training to lose and give your opponent the advantage,and if you are then you're doing wrong style and going to wrong school and I feel sorry for you,but I'm certainly not training to lose.I'm training to win.
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So many styles...
MuayThai Fighter replied to AZGrasshopper's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
Hey budd,I'm a muay thai fighter and I can tell you this much,Muay Thai Kickboxing is not hard on your knees if anything it's harder on your shins since we use our shins alot to do our kicks. Karate,Kung Fu and Tae kwon do are arts that are hard on your knees because of their katas(forms) Let me give you some advice,first think about why you want to do martial arts before joining.Is it to keep in shape?Then any art is okay,but keep in mind that traditional arts can be uncomfortable if you have bad knees.Before I took up MuayThai,I did karate for 12yrs. Now if you want to do martial arts for self-defense and street-defense ignore ALL TRADITIONAL ARTS,because they are useless for that. You want self-defense do something like MuayThai,Boxing,Submmision Wrestling,Jujitsu,Judo,Shooto or Pankration,etc.something realistic that avoids B.S katas and specifically teaches self-defense. The arts I mentioned are the best ones I can think of. Muay Thai is considered to be one of the best and most effective arts around the world,always has been and always will be.However every art on its own is limited,so I'd suggest shooto or pankration. I do Pankration,but fight muaythai. Pankration is combination of MuayThai Kickboxing and Submission Wrestling. So we do both stand up and grappling. I did karate 12 yrs and now have done Pankration 4yrs.I learnt alot more of fighting techniques in those 4yrs and improved my fighting more,then I did in those 12yrs of karate. Look at it this way,a traditional artist is good at katas,but suck at fighting. A muay thai fighter is one of the best at stand up,but would do terrible on the ground just like a grappler will do terrible in stand up fight. To be good at both you need an art that teaches both,which will make you a well rounded fighter. -
Why do you think your stlye is effective?
MuayThai Fighter replied to TJS's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I believe my martial arts is effective for the fact that it is one of the closest things to a real fight,it's a mixed martial arts know as Pankration. Pankration=MuayThai and Submission Wrestling. In Pankration and shooto you can use techniques other styles won't allow you to do ,in other words we can use shins,knees,elbows,uppercut,stand up neck wrestling,grappling involving chokes,arm bars,leg locks,ankle locks,elbow locks,knee bars,wrist locks,neck cranks,elbowing guy to head or body while on his back etc. Beside Pankration and arts similar to it like Shooto,are the ones that always won in UFC,I never see any traditional artists doing it. I have also done traditional arts,Goju Ryu Karate,and Meibu kan karate,that teach mostly forms,which do have some good techniques within the katas,but the forms themselves are useless.Most traditional artists don't even know the bunkai to their forms.One problem with katas are the stances that would never work in a real situation. The fact that katas are pre-arranged forms,and away of fighting imaginary opponents in order to work on technique, makes traditional arts like karate,kung,tae kwon do,nothing but useless for self-defense. To improve on technique one must practice on another opponent or at least hit heavy bag.Hitting and kicking in the air is useless.In a real situation you won't be kicking or punching air,so why practice that way. My style doesn't do forms,we get straight to the point,no B.S stuff,we practice all techniques on a class mate then put it to use in sparring,so we're basically always using what we learn on some one.We don't punch air,if not punching some one,we punch and kick heavy bag,focus mitts,and kicking shields.Contact with force is what one needs in order to make a good fighter and to have a proper martial arts without it is completely useless,unless you're not doing martial arts for self-defense. Conclusion: I like my art due to the fact there are no forms and that it is more realistic then traditional arts.We study street-defense. -
Which arts mix the best?
MuayThai Fighter replied to Kyodai's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
Best combination martial arts ,if you're talking fighting wise,are arts like those in UFC,that do both stand up and grappling,not traditional arts like karate,kung fu,tae kwon do. I'd say the best mixed arts are ones like Pankration,Shoot fighting,Savate. Pankration and Shoot fighting which are basically the same as they are a combination of MuayThai and Submission Wrestling. Therefore us Pankrationists and Shoot fighters can use shins,knees,elbows,upper cuts,neck wrestling,then there is ground wrestling using,which involves chokes,arm bars,knee bars,elbow locks,wrist locks,ankle locks etc. When it comes down to it arts like these can be referred to realistic street-defense more then just martial arts. For self-defense traditional arts are useless. -
I have no idea what Lau-Gar is,however I am MuayThai Fighter,it is true that we do very intense conditioning like kicking a heavy bag or kicking shields with full force using our shins. Muay Thai does alot of punching,shin kicks,knees and elbows.we also do stand up neck wrestling. However I've never heard of a muay thai fighter that induces brittle bones when getting older,it is possible I guess though,but I do know from previous 12yrs.experience in karate that students can get arthritis from hitting makiwara boards all the time and bad knees from doing their stances. Despite the aggressiveness in Muay Thai there is nothing too much to worry about,you'll keep your for mental and physical faculties intact still for quite a few years.If brittle bones from Muay Thai is true,it would probably be because you haven't done martial arts in along time and now fairly late for taking it up. You should be alright though,I'm 33 yrs old and have only fought Muay Thai for 4 yrs.before that it was karate.I've been in martial arts for 16yrs. I've been hurt in MuayThai but nothing too serious,but then again it's probably because I'm used to sparring. I actually train in Pankration,but fight MuayThai. Pankration=Muay Thai combined with Submission Wrestling.