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Enshin Karate crossed with boxing / with face shots.

Of all martial arts of the stand up verity, i'm most intregued by Enshin. Only problem there is no Enshin schools in my area I was wondering who has been trained in this style, if anyone can give their thoughts and opinions of it? And since their is no schools in my area, if anyone knows of a good book/website/DVD that could teach me a lot of the principles, like with the use of "sabaki" and their fighting techniques.

I really like this topic! I'm now trying to combine the Shotokan Karate i've been learning with the Muay thai i've studied for years in my upcoming MMA fight, 3 months from now. I like a lot of the defensive techiques of karate that translate better to MMA than thai boxing, due to the fact you're not wearing huge boxing gloves, foot sweeps, and certain back fist techniques, as well as learning different ranges and angles, while using the huge arsenal of weapons Muay Thai brings. I'm hoping, if I can do this successfully. I'll have a system I can teach one day, that has the best of both, while resembeling neither.

So can someone help elaborate on this mindset? I like the concept, and I feel I reach that in sparring sometimes, but when I compete in say kickboxing or MMA, I get a little zealous and too excited. Any advice who to reach this mindset in a dangerous situation like a street fight? My guess a lot of it comes from relaxation/confidence?

The one that always gets me is "A black belt has to register themselves as a "deadly Weapon"" And there a LOT of black belts that believe this. This myth originates when I believe it was Joe Frazier did it as a stunt before fighting Muhammad Ali.

Yes it's in the states, and it'd be about as full contact as you think. that's the issue i'm thinking i'd be having in sanctioning approval. IDK what state or sanctioning body would allow it. I'm right next to the borders of Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky, so one of the three should be down!

i'm gonna reach out to schools for sure....and safety is the highest concern!

Thanks for the information and advice!I plan on charging AS LEAST AS POSSIBLE for competitors, since while they're the heart and soul of this event, I don't want to exclude people because the cost is too high. As far as rules, it's going to be custom rules, which will essentially be full contact Shotokan, with KO's allowed. This is where I ask about sanctioning bodys and athletic commissions for 2 reasons: 1) Due to the full contact nature of this tournament, would it even be -LEGAL- to do it? 2) Would a sanctioning martial arts body be the loophole to allowing if it is illegal? 3) Who should I get if no. 2 is the case, to sanction and regulate it. suggestions? 4) Again, because of the nature of the event, and the fact i'm gonna try to do something very different than whats been done before, Should I create my own sanctioning body to help regulate it? I plan on getting as many sponsers as I can, as well as vendors. As far as a venue, there is a hotel/event center in my city I could look into, and they'd more than likely have a special rate for competitors.

So i'm throwing around the idea, of holding a martial arts tournament, and well I have my sensei to help me, I have no clue where to begin! Besides revenue to fund it, which will be another issue...Do I need a sanctioning body to govern it? Does the Athletic commission have to be involved? Any advice, guides, would be greatly appreciated. I'm in Indiana, so i'd have to revolve around Indiana laws.

that is my mindset too, and that's the idea i'm thinking about taking it... so is essential i'd be teaching full contact shotokan, but it'd still be teaching the classing shotokan curiculum

I thought about doing what he said, but I feel the final product would be so much different than shotokan or muay thai, that it wouldn't really be fair to call it either...though that was my orignal idea, and still is a possibly of going about it as shotokan offshoot/variation for many reasons

So one thing that's always bothered me in martial arts, is refearing to someone as "master" and or "grand master" Now, if you've earned such ranks, I give respect where respect is due, and would call you such if you're style has such ranks but... The word "master" to me means, having complete understanding and ability of a particular skill or art....and in marital arts, I don't believe in such things I believe that -EVERY- marital artist, from white belt, to 9th degree black, should ALWAYS have the mindset of being a student, to always learn, to keep an open mind, to expand your horizons and to grow, and with that in mindset to me, you cannot become a "master" because you're still growing, expanding....there for it's impossible to be one....but that's just opinion....

Ty! Another reason i want to do as a system, like Karate with a belt structure, is for reaching purposes. I've been to a few Muay thai and MMA schools, and the way they seem to be historically structured, while they work on basics, they kinda seem to throw you in the middle of things, don't really have a foundation to start with. What I loved about karate is the teaching strucutre, build a foundation and expand upon it. I think that's a better way to establish good basics and teaching

I have taught muay thai and assisted in shotokan. It would be a full contact system consisting of the shotokan and Muay thai elements combined, with an influence of sabaki and the use of gi, for take downs and throws. It would look something, on the competition side, if Enshin and Combat Sambo had a baby. I would affiliate I believe, I'd like to grow what i'm teaching. This wouldn't be for another 5-10 years, so i'm still working on the ciriculum and working on growing myself as a student and teacher. I Initially wanted to do version of a full contact shotokan, but then i reliezed what i'd be going for might be much more than that.

So having studied martial arts for many years, i've decided I eventually would like to teach, and start my own style / system, as I truelly believe I can bring something new to the table. I have a few questions and thoughts I wonder if anyone could help me with: Who has developed and taught their own system? Why did you go about this? what would you recommend for someone doing the same? Is it even nessesary? I could probally just sell it as a "tweaked version of muay thai in a gi" but I feel i'd be selling my selft short, but I also feel like would people take it seriously by name alone? Any thoughts and advice is greatly appreciated!

Goju Ryu seems like a great style! I love what i've seen of it. You can definatlly see how it influence kyokushin!

Just out of curiosity, are there any karate styles that are full contact, but not of kyokushin leniage?

I've changed schools many times, mostly due to finacial reasons. But the two places i've trained the longest, my thai boxing and karate school, what they mean to me is this: A path of personal enlightenment, a means to better myself, but more important then learning how to fight, is the friendship and fellowship I have recieved. So it all means family. I also help teach, and watching students grow and reaching them is very special to me, so it also means family.

No martial arts in general, but I started karate after years of Muay thai as a way to think outside the box, do something different. My Sensei is a good friend, and teaches me for free, in exchange for helping teach fighting techniques and helping them. So its a pretty good deal I must say

So i've been trying to find resources to learn these styles, I love the concept of sabaki and the blind spot. I vaguely know this the history of both, but what's the differences? I know they're very similar. Anyone got any resources like books,videos they'd recommend for learning their techniques?

If I had to pick one, i'd choose either Enshin or Ashihara. You have the full contact training of Kyokushin, with standing grappling mixed it. I also feel the emphesis of NOT standing toe to toe like kyokushin is more practical for self defense. You're there to get out in one peace, not fight.

I second this! find the best instructor for you. Each one is effective for the purpose you have, but if you can't find some one who can show how to practically and effectively use it, then it's a waste of time regardless what style.

Thank you! That's what I was thinking. Coming from a mostly boxing/ muay thai background, this is "backwards" to what i've been taught. It feels quicker personally, its just very different and kind akward to what i'm used to, but that's the fun of new styles right? getting out of our comfort zones!