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Great video. Each throw as fast as the narrator could talk.

Then you likely haven't, Brian, since BOB XL's trunks look like trunks, while TOD's "trunks" are pleated all around, very much like a skirt.

Ki Cho Hyungs (Il, E, Sam Bu) Pyung Ahn Cho Dan Chil Sung E Ro Hyung

I remember a student who had reached first dan in TKD, but decided not to continue as she had so much to do in high school. She's now in her twenties, has returned to TKD, and takes Judo as well. I can think of a husband and wife who were TKD dan members, but whose daughter went into gymnastics. They just thought it was great. Parents . . . We'd be proud of our kids if they won at tiddlywinks!

Then continue to do it. It takes a few minutes of your time and will help you to focus. Don't do it quickly to get it over with; move steadily, smoothly, as you concentrate on stance, on breathing, on throwing your hip a bit into blocks and strikes . . . You get the picture. Groin protection? Perhaps shin guards? Accidents (low blows) happen, and consider that a hard block against your unprotected lower leg is no fun to experience. Money is likely a concern, but some kind of face protection beyond the mouthpiece couldn't hurt. Remember, too, that having safety equipment does not mean hit harder. There's a disclaimer on all safety equipment that it has its limitations. That's the rank that trained/tutored me. Does the green belt have kata knowledge others lack? It doesn't have to be perfect knowledge of the form; it only has to be worthy of being practiced. To know a kata roughly and performing it as best you can is better than letting it go, practicing nothing. To know the first half of a kata, and perhaps getting a book that completes it, holds you over better than not practicing it and forgetting the half that was originally taught by an instructor. Do you have a regular place to train? Regular meeting days and times? What age range are you and your friends? Would an adult be nearby in case of injury? That last paragraph is just as important as anything said above it, Ranpu. You need a "dojo" with a schedule, and you need to have help available in case of injury, as you're dealing with a contact sport.

I checked out its web site at: http://www.muaythaimes.com/index.html Brian, and there are magazines available for downloading if you click on one of the across-the-top links. I went through the short Intro issue, then in the second issue I found it to be more interesting, especially one article that has an MT fighter who must have specialized in knees. One photo has him in the air, delivering a jumping knee kick, another has his roundhouse slamming the knee into his opponent's jaw, and the third is an old standard--just grab the guy and let your knee do the talking. It also includes women in Muay Thai. Maybe you'd like to visit the site to check it out. I'm bookmarking it, myself.

Welcome to KarateForums, Ranpu. This is the #1 place to be to discuss MA.

In my art, Soo Bahk Do, which is a Korean art related to TKD, the first of the Eight Key Concepts is called "Yon Gi"--with "gi" the same as "ki" (or even "chi"), and the translation being "Brave Energy," AKA "courage." The "kihap" (the Korean "kiai") is an "energy shout," with expectations from startling an opponent to releasing your own energy. It's considered an aid in striking, but also, when doing hyungs, there are two at certain points in the five that I've studied, and there is a release of tension for the body, as my instructor's teacher informed me. What's interesting is that we actually do pause for an extra second at these kihap points; we don't race through them, the shout at the strike coming up from the diaphragm and the pause feeling natural, like a tension break.

I don't know how plausible it is that your instructor will be able to start up again soon, Ranpu, but I know that the way I first learned martial arts was by a friend--an Isshinryu green belt--who taught me the basic moves (no kata) and we sparred regularly. I should say that our age was that we were both in our thirties; if you're minors, I defer to your parents. What was good was that I learned how to defend myself, and all our techniques were kept simple. It was pretty much kept to point-sparring, with restrained contact, and so we'd fight, hit, step back, fight--that way nothing was a slug-fest. Certain things were out-of-bounds, such as the use of the elbows or knees, it was punches only, and kicks were all above the belt. (Nowadays, the Muay Thai roundhouse to the thigh is acceptable--but not then.) What was not good was that it took us too long to get safety equipment. The bare-knuckle approach we used was how he'd been taught, so we did the same--until we learned by experience that we needed mouthguards, as well as hand, foot, and shin protection, which we got in due time. Do you know any kata? I don't know how advanced anyone in your group is, or what the emphasis was on kata. Never lose this knowledge that keeps you in training. I do kata, in my Korean form called hyungs, regularly. As it keeps me going in that I can't attend classes more than two days of the week due to adult responsibilities, it will keep you going in the art until you can find a qualified instructor again. Don't be surprised if you find another martial art that you can take and that your Isshinryu experience strangely blends with. In the case of my friend and me, we wound up taking Taiji (Tai Chi) separately, his school more "martial" than mine, and we learned how to spar better, more smoothly, more redirection, even trapping. What brought this to an end was that he married and started a family before I did, but I have no regrets at what we were doing. Good luck to you and your friends, Ranpu.

I realize Dave's reference is to do what's required for the students to know, and do other things that the students keep interest, but I think that the instructor can keep from becoming stale by having class contain different things now-and-then as well.

The bamboo farmer wasn't a rebellious man, nor was he the fool his farmer neighbors made him out to be. He was a farming entrepreneur, a man of vision who knew that something worth having wouldn't mean instant gratification. He was confident in himself, knowing in his heart that the taunts of his neighbors came from ignorance--and possibly reflected a secret fear that he who did something different would be successful. When the bamboo farmer stayed the course and met with success, not only was he no longer jeered, but others wanted to follow in his pioneer footsteps. And not a single "I told you so" was said by him.

Congratulations, Nanook! You did it and now have a new goal. Looks like your profile will have to be updated.

The story's well-written, telling it like it is, but the statistics chart is more of a shocker. One line of it for "Power Punch Stats" has De Le Hoya landing 51, but his opponent, Pacquiao, landing 195. And he went eight rounds!

Leg stretches Ki Cho Hyungs (Il, E, Sam Bu) Pyung Ahn Cho Dan Chil Sung E Ro Hyung One-step sparring; self-defense techniques Xmas Party combining my instructor's school with her teacher's school, held at the latter's site. I was there with my sons! A number of kids put on demos, being hyungs, all sorts of anti-bully, anti-stranger techniques, and a team staff ("bong" in Korean) demo (by red belts, the step before dan membership). Good food afterwards.

I see what they mean by detail and a possible movie prop. Planning it must have been as meticulous as assembling it.

John, is this from AWMA? It's even shown in red, if this is the one. You put it together by buying the components. I like that, when complete, it covers the outer thighs as well as other areas we expect to be covered, because nowadays "below the belt" is okay if it's a Muay Thai-style kick to the upper leg. I wonder how many of us who weren't good kickers, or were not considered good kickers, in the past would be fine nowadays because of this to-the-thigh roundhouse?

Understandable. Your presence there might be considered a legal necessity as well as an insurance one, should the chief instructor not be present. Sorry, Shotokan, but I thought that the chief instructor was present but not on the floor for whatever reason, and she (the young BB) was teaching at length while one eye was kept on the class by the chief instructor. Absence of an adult responsible for minors is a serious concern, so your presence was a necessity. This is unacceptable. Was the chief instructor present but occupied with other work at the time, or absent from the dojo/dojang? If she were only responsible for warm-ups, then the chief instructor might likely have been indisposed temporarily. A frank talk with him by you is a necessity, that he would know to speak with this young BB, to instill what responsibility means when one is in charge, and perhaps a good talking to is needed by the class as a whole. If the entire thing were done over with the chief instructor visibly present, it might set the stage for future times when he's not on the floor. A last thought could be that the chief instructor wanted her to gain some experience in leading a class, and warm-ups are a good intro. That would be fine if the problem you mentioned didn't occur, of course, or had been addressed immediately.

Tallgeese, suppose you were a lower belt, as I am, and he is instructing you on kata/hyungs (which are taught in segments, not the whole form at once). Or suppose he's to introduce you to one-step sparring that you haven't done before, so that he's actually teaching you what to do. Perhaps you and another student of the same lower belt rank are both learning what to do, so that he's introducing/instructing and so supervising. It could even be anti-wrist grab techniques. I realize your reference was to SD, but the chief instructor might not have planned that for that class's lessons, particularly for lower belts. Would any of the examples I gave be acceptable to you in terms of teaching by a younger teenager (13, 14, 15) who holds a dan ranking?

Decisions . . . Decisions . . . . Since I've got exactly five hyungs to know, I'll list them: Ki Cho Hyung Il Bu Ki Cho Hyung E Bu Ki Cho Hyung Sam Bu --"Ki Cho" means basic Pyung Ahn Cho Dan --The first of the "peaceful confidence" (that's the translation Soo Bahk Do accepts for English) forms Chil Sung E Ro Hyung --The second of the Seven Star forms And I likely surprise others when we're given some on our own warm-up time, as I use the first of the basic (Ki Cho) forms, and will keep going from there, until free time to warm up is over. I find the basic forms are good warm-ups, especially to get my balance/stance into focus.

Since Fu Man is referring to "junior" BB status, I'm wondering why this topic is a "much younger grade," when all that was stated in the OP is the ages of the dan members involved. Was the OP incomplete in some way? If it's a "junior" BB, then the reference to "grade" enters into discussion; if there are no "junior" BBs, then it goes right back to square one: what the OP specifically says is the situation. Since Shotokan-kez said: Maybe now would be a good time to explain, so we know the full story.

Class My instructor's teacher taught tonight. Different sparring combinations, individually and with a partner; sparring sessions, one segment of which was only kicking; hyungs of the individual student's choice

No, I can't say I'm a dan member, but I'm fifty-six going on fifty-seven, and I've had no problem with the dan member who's fourteen. He's a fine young man, certainly knowledgeable, and earned his position as the new Jo Kyo Nim (assistant instructor) in our dojang, as our previous assistant instructor is now certified to open his own school, which he's working on. There have been a few occasions when he's been asked to teach for a period of time while our chief instructor is conferring with a parent, etc., and there are numerous occasions when he's been the one to ask to supervise while the chief instructor is working on something special with another student (whether an advanced hyung or troubleshooting for a lower belt stuck on the basics). I call him "Sir" and "Mr. ___" on the floor, and he calls me "Joe," just as any other student. Off the floor, I call him Michael, but so do other, young students, who call him "Sir" when on the floor. It's proper protocol. In the past, one of the advancements the French army made (notably under Louis XIV, who was fond of war) was a strict ranking system for the army. No matter what lineage (I'm the son of a duke, and you're the son of a count) or age (I'm old enough to be your father), whatever the rank says, that's it. How many officers are twenty-two years old in the US Army and outrank Master Sergeants who took years to get there? Does the army want to hear complaints about it? Any military historians out there? Wasn't Colonel Martinet of France the one who insisted on a strict code of following orders based on rank that other countries adopted? Isn't it the same with martial arts? Or else what does the ranking system mean?

His bio online at Tang Soo Do World can be found here, Brian, with a quote regarding GM Hwang Kee, founder of Soo Bahk Do: He came to the U.S. in 1972 at Grandmaster Hwang Kee's request and spent two years teaching in New Jersey. In 1974 he moved to Pittsburgh. In 1975 he became a charter member of the U.S. Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation and in 1982 was elected Chairman. Actually, GM Hwang Kee was calling his art Tang Soo Do originally, and the US organization, with headquarters in Springfield NJ, was called the US Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation, but the Grandmaster wanted the name change to be more "Korean history oriented," and the name became the US Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation, with the subtitle, "also known as the US Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation." Unfortunately, arguments, politics, and lawsuits (note that GM Chun Sik Kim's International Tang Soo Do Federation can't use "Moo Duk Kwan" in its name) have given the Korean arts a bit of a stormy past.

It'll be summer down there. Is your friend going for the adventure of it, Tallgeese, or business, like something related to science?

Home Leg stretches Class required one-step sparring techniques; sparring combos; free sparring; hyungs During free sparring: I was first paired up with a fellow adult who is all kicks (they're strong ones if you hold the kick shield), but no punches, and doesn't protect his face. I know he had a bad facial injury in the past during a tournament, and decided this time not to throw as many punches to his face as usual; too easy a target. Concentrated on kicking, even though it's his game, just to see what I could do. Second adult paired up with does just some kicks, roundhouses in particular, but favors punches. Strong fellow. My blocks against his punches "pounded" them down with my forearms, but I have to concentrate more on redirecting. I did much more movement against the first opponent than against the second; have to work on that.