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today- 3 mile run legs

today- modified crossfit: 20 min continous of- 5 pull ups 10 dips 15 sit ups knife work

I wouldn't worry about it. If it's in your system at your rank, do it. You don't have to justify anything beyond that to anyone, certainly not your instructor. Remember too that since we all have vastly different backgrounds it's easy to end up with stuff at different places in the learning spectrum based on what everyones main focus is.

Then it might work out well. The strengths of judo will certainly compliment those of karate and make one more well rounded.

Yeah, thanks . It's really alot of western wrestling that I'm working hard on integrating to my game. I've got a few guys who've done alot of it so I'm capatalizing. I've trainied with wrestlers before during my college years, but mainly in working on defending the shot and such. Now, I'm really trying to be aggressive with its use. Prior to that, my takedown game consited of leg sweeps, the occassionaly body lock takedown and pulling to guard.

Lots of broad arts randomize aspets of themselves for work on them during a given period. For instance, it's hard to train for striking, small joint manip, takedowns, ground work, and weapons in a given night. So, they are often broken down and rotated thru the training schedule. Granted, in this case, we're talking about different arts not parts of a whole, but the concept might not be bad. Like I said, it's a method (not tools) that alot of mma guys use, granted again, the time frames of training are vastly compressed. Still, you'd have to try it and check on the compatability factor. See how it goes for you. Some guys can do well switching from one to the other. Some don't. It's no foul either way. Of it dosn't work out for you, you can always stop and find something else.

Good luck and keep us posted on your training. And of course the test.

today- 3, 2 min rounds on the mitt gloves. Spontanous response to presented targets with defese. 20 min instructinal block and drilling on side mount offense 3, 3 min round free roll from the knees 7, 3 min rounds of free roll from standing my takedown game is getting much more aggressive, the focus on it during the free periods is paying off. The high single is working good any my double leg is getting soother as well. Will start trying to chain stuff together now.

I agree that some sort of structure is needed by the warrior to keep anarchy from setting in. This is easily provided by the law of the land and proper instruction in use of force and an understanding of the consequences of actions. That's part of application. Again, I'm not saying someone couldn't or shouldn't use ma's as a way to develop charater, I'm just saying that it dosn't need to be a core reason for training. Most of the guys I work with are adults with their own set of values and charater already established. They're on the mat to train for conflict. Not develop any sort of internal goals. Let's also not forget that most of the concepts we have of chivalry and bushido affected fighting men of the time are largely romantic in nature. While they were in place at the time, let's not forget that these men were primarily concerned with warfare. As for fighting v. self defense, there's a thread around here somewhere regarding the terms. To me there's a hair of difference, but not much of one. To me they are largely synonomous.

Likewise, never been to one. However, it seems like a conflict of intrest.

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If I were paying for the whole thing, I'd attend as many as possible.

Keeping you out of jail. I'm not saying that you have to let yourself get hurt by an attacker before escalating to a more potent weapon. I'm just saying that you really need to maintain a reasonable level of force to defeat the said attack. That's the way lots of laws are worded. It's the "reasonalblness" of a response that keeps you out of trouble post fight. So, if you're grabbed and drawn back on you, can you rip a dude's eye loose and crank his head into the pavement via his hair until it splats like a watermealon? Probibly not. Now, can you do that if he's 7 ft of muscle, impervious to the first three things you tried and threatening to kill you? Or has a weapon? Now we're getting somewhere. It's probibly an appropriate response now. You have to be able to articulate why you used the level of force you did- to the law. I'm not talking about philosophical principles or esoteric stuff here, it's about keeping me free with a clean record after I employ my training. Now, does that mean that everything below lethal force should be lacadasical? Of course not, everything should be used with a "dogs of war" mentality. So if we go back to my first example, the grab and load move, you might elect to check the cocked arm and apply an underhooking shoulder lock to the other. Let's even say a inish with a takedown for control. You don't do this easy, you slam it as quick and as hard as you can. That's my theory on why.

No offense taken, at least on my end. Yes, they are different and each could still take years to implement well. But with a solid and growing base in each you'd have a pretty wide range of skills and tools to throw at a situation. Like I said, mma-ers tend to train quite a bit in this way. Granted, grappling and standup are done in more rapid succession, but the principle is about the same. And it works pretty well for integrating the ground game and stand up. It might be useful for more trad arts as well. At worst, you could try it and see how it works out.

It depends. Man, how sick of hearing that from me is everyone here . If it's a signifigant understanding of a wide variety of tools, codified into a unique format with solid principles and defined goals. Why not. If it does what it's supposed to do, good luck. In a smaller sense, we all "create our own style" individually just based on what we're good at within our own systems of study and physical/psycological gifts and attributes. It's an out growth of this to take the next step. My questions would be, how is it different? What role does it serve? How well does it do that? What are the systemimic elements that define it? Time in multiple systems would be paramount to this kind of thing. Long enough to be able to understand the "whys" of what they are doing as well as the hows. I don't think guys with a smattering of "techniques" from a couple of different things need to be doing it. Then you've just got a hodgepodge of movements with no real defining elements. If someone has to explain their new system by a list of movements then it's probibly just what I talked about, a hodgepodge and nothing more. Lastly, and most importantly, how well does it hold up on the mat? That's the key. I don't care much about the pedegree of a fighter nearly as much as I care about what he can teach me and how well what he does works.

I don't know. Might be a pretty good apprach if your primary focus integration into a whole. It'd be akin to working stand up one day, ground another, together and spar a third. Lot's of guys work on that schedule. My only gripe would be the lack of reps at each station (aside from not having much intrest in trad weapons). I'm in a minority, but if they were diciplines I liked, I'd give it a go.

Don't let it bug you. Everyone lets the odd post slip thru occassionally that they're not proud of. Even I've written a few that I've considered going back and editing after I read them a couple of times and saw the responses. Not because I meant to be harsh, but because they came off a bit wrong. Yes, we probibly deal with ego a bit. In some cases, most I would hope, it's more to the fact that lots of us have been doing this awhile. This makes us very opinionated. Add to that the sheer variety of things we train in and the vastly differnet focus we all have and it's easy to see how adamant can seem harsh easily enough. And then other times, as I said above, we all post stuff that we regret after we see how it's taken.

To the ealier mention of a ma master in comparison to Tito, I'd have to say that I see them as about the same. Only different diciplines and focal points, that's all. Where the trad master might have more sd arsenal at his disposal (eye gouges, small joint manipulations, ect.), Tito will likely have an edge in exposue to "live" training methods and heavy contact training. In the end they are both training to hurt another human being. I have no problem with ma-ers using their training to reach philosophical goals, I don't see it as a mandantory componant. Just part of what they might include as axallary training.

Running prior to weights is fine. Just accept that you're running willl be primary for your training intensity. And it sounds like that's what you're looking for anyway. As another option, look at crossfit.com It's a training protocol that I use quite a bit. I use it on days I'm not lifting or doing ma. It's a great program. Just watch some of the people on the site, they are a bit rabid at times.

today- 3 mile run (cold-but outside) back/bis Cool down with my knife project. Movement patterns are down I think. Now I'm taking pains to get the angle of the blade right as well as the angle of the interception for the best cuts.

I feel your pain... Traymond, I live close enough to the city to go regualarly. But I don't. Can't stand it. I only routinely go down about once a year for a trip to the zoo or something and the occassionaly meeting that I have to attend. Otherwise, I stay away. I'm actually from downstate originally and we all tend to feel that Chicago should be it's own state and just seceed from Illinios altogether.

None from here. I agree, ma's are about fighting. For me, that 's pretty much the end of the story. Any charater enhancment that occurs is primarily of a secondary nature. As I stated somewhere else, often thru humbling encounters on the floor. There are guys with great integrety that do ma's, guys with little that are very good, and som with high levels of honor who occassionally do dumb things. We're just as far around that territory as the rest of mankind.

Agree, understanding, at least at a basic level, the principles of leverage as well as physiological factors is highly important in any ma. Espically the ground game, where success can be determined by very minute movements.

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