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I think there is a certain element of this for sure. I know my approach to training has changed signifcantly since starting BJJ. Much more laid back and technique oriented than previously. I also listen to much more Bob Marley, but that's beside the point. So yeah, I do think it bleeds over into personality if you're deeply invested. But I don't think your casual practicioner will see this. I think you're more likely to experiene it if you are really spending time mentally in the art as well as physically.

Interesting. I'll look into the Skype thing.

5/29 More yoga, very light. How is the gi work going GS? Grips coming along?

This turned out FANTASTIC! Thanks for putting it together and asking me to be part of it. Great time to chat with everyone!

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5/28 90 min free roll. 3 min rounds. 2 on, 1 off Followed by time spent at the livestream for the anniversary. Great time guys .

I'm a hundred percent with Justice on this one. I'll comply as best as possible to not have to attempt any sort of disarm with an armed attacker. The deck is significantly stacked against your odds of success. However, there are triggers that mandate action. One is certainly being moved from one local to another. This does not bode well for how things will end for you. Another would be an increasingly irrational hostage taker. I think we can all agree that the best case scenario is not to be there in the first place via awareness, smart choices on your part, ect. However, given that worst case situations do occur, a little thought on the matter and training in them prior to an incident can go a long way in getting you through a worst case in one piece. One of the big things to think about with this type of training is total commitment to your objective once you initiate movement. This is not the time for half measures or non-confident skill use. Nor is it time for anything but full throttle aggression once you begin. This mindset is an absolute must. This does not mean physical training should be out of had or reckless, but that mentally one must be making the leap to dismantling an attacker. It means you accepting that YOU are becoming the attacker and responding as such.

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Right. I'm taking about how I never like to commit both of my hands to control one of his. It open up too many avenues of attack. It's part of the reason I'd don't like wrist manipulation a whole lot. However, I make an exception for weapons related stuff. Of course strike heavy defenses are a must. I agree. It's more of a concept I like to adhere to when prioritizing my actions.

5/27 am: 1.5 mile run pull ups bench curls squat neck work abs pm: Drilled takedown work Recovering takedown off sprawl Moving to takedown off of open guard 30 min free roll, gi and no gi

Nice. I love the idea of putting up video to describe this sort of thing to each other. I like the emphasis on controlling the barrel while striking. We, as martial artist, usually do one or the other very well. As you point out, both need to be done. This is one situation where I really do believe in a) two weapons to one, in other words, both of your hands on one of his and b) wrist manipulation work via joint position. Both of these are questionable at best to me. However, when you're dealing with a weapon in the other guys hands, it become the be all and end all of your universe. All else is secondary to controlling that. Hence, both of these items become acceptable. Great vid.

5/26 Ok, so it won't count for personal sd training, but spent all day up and down a tree story building in full kit breach doors and windows. I could not even guess how many swings I took with the ram. That had to burn some calories. I will now go and watch this gun disarm video. Great idea GS! We should really consider using this more often to describe things to each other.

There are a ton of good people here, and all of them have a great background and unique point of view. For me, one of the members who stands out the most is bushido man 96. I think it might have even been for one of his threads that I initially registered so I could post. He and I have similar mindsets and different enough backgrounds that we can look at similar questions from different angles. That, and similar occupations, make it very enjoyable being on the site with him. He also had the foresight to start the Training Log thread. I've got to see alot of different regimes due to this thread and it's been good to keep me accountable as well. I also enjoy seeing that MMA Jim has posted. Again, we are similar enough to want the same things, and different enough that we can still hold a lively debate over particulars. I also enjoy sensei8 and Montana, two more traditional guys whose viewpoints are often from a different point of view altogether. This again makes for good debate. On a more recent front, I'm thrilled to have Groinstrike and Master Pain around. I come out of the same school as these guys originally. Since I don't live close enough to hang out with them anymore, having them here is a great way to keep in touch and see what each other are doing training wise. It's also fun to see Master Pain's humor more frequently than my infrequent visits home . In short, there are alot of great people here. Thanks to all of them for the insights they share. And thanks to those I listed above for making it fun to be here as well as just a learning experience.

Patrick, good timing! I've been thinking I was going to ask about this on the livestream in light of the recent milestone here on the site: I've always wondered how you ended up deciding to launch a martial arts based forum. You've stated a couple of times you don't have a significant background in the arts. So what prompted that choice? Also, one of the things that sets this site apart is it's vibe, and choice to keep style basing and out of hand arguing off limits. It's a rarity in web forums these days. Especially martial arts ones. How did that choice, to keep that garbage out, come to be?

It's not a system that is heavy on this kind of work. However, I have participated in drills working evading two persons standing trying to kick you and working sweeps in. Not unheard of, but not the focus in most schools. That being said, remember that part of BJJ is standing takedowns, and hence defense to takedowns. This will entail, as all BJJ does, movement and live drilling. That's not unhelpful in this kind of situation.

What we work off is primarily a two person method. What usually happens (at least according to our 2010 study) is that one officer grips the wrist of a bad guy to place him under arrest. Bad guy resists. Our officer then tries a straight arm bar takedown and bad guy fight to keep his arm to himself and stay up. This usually becomes what I call the dance of death, where we all spin in a circle getting nowhere until we can pile enough cops on to knock everyone over by sheer weight. So, what we work on now is the initial armbar officer does not initially try to takedown. He simply rolls the arm into position and bends bad guy forward. The second officer will then control the head and execute an inside takedown via the head. This is a takedown we have drilled previously as a single person takedown. It was actually used quite a bit on it's own. Now we just incorporate it into a two man pattern. You'll notice that the cop with the armbar not only gets to help with taking the subject down, but is also set up for cuffing via the armbar at the end of the movement. We actually make everyone communicate on who has what and when the takedown is coming and what direction. This makes sure everyone's effort is in concert with one another. We found in the study that we were using something similar by default. So we built on the natural tendencies of our people and refined it, then worked in communication. We've had good feed back from the tactical side of training. We've used this on our shift with good success. I'm looking forward to seeing the results in the same study next year. If you're interested in the study itself, I can email it to you. It's not anything real high speed, but it really did help us justify moving our CT program in a different, hopefully better, direction. However, it was a ton of work to do the study and then build new lesson plans.

5/25 Drilled briefly on butterfly sweep and then sweep to x guard 60 min free roll

bushidoman, you raise a great point here. It's one we've just started to address. As LE, we travel in packs, it's how we work. We did a Use of Force review at the beginning of the year to work on tweaking our program, what we found is what we've intuitively said for years- we arrest people with more than one person at a time. In fact, when we interviewed everyone who'd used force in 2010, we found that one common complaint was that we spent more time fighting each other for control of a subject than we spent fighting the subject. So, we stated working on that rather than just working towards taking people into custody one on one. It's an example of how we really have to examine what we're doing vs. what we need to be doing and adjusting training from there.

sojobo, sorry for the late reply. Yes, we learn to use them each from both sides of the coin. To use yourself and defend against.

What style: My background arts are two kempo based systems, Bujin and Gokei Ryu. Currently, most of my effort is going towards BJJ. Rank: I hold black belt ranks in the first two. A blue belt in BJJ. Training per week: I voted on the 4 option. Usually two group classes per week at my BJJ school, another day with a BJJ bb friend of mine working one on one, and another open mat day where several of us from different schools will get together and work out. This is where I'll still work standup skills or mma occasionally. If my weekends are free of work related duties, I'll get a 5th day in on Sat with open mat at my BJJ academy, but that's not a regular enough occurrence to push the vote up.

5/24 early: shoulders press weighted pull ups light cleans for form deadlifts tri extensions abs late: 20 min yoga

5/23 BJJ nite: Drilled preventing/ countering the guard pass via shrimp and move to knees, then to guard recovery. 6, 2 min rounds starting from half pass. Pass completion vs. recovery 45 min free roll 15 min of yoga post class to cool down and loosen up. Yeah, this is getting problematic for my image.

5/22 Weights- Bench Pull ups Squat Curls Neck work 2 mile run

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