Chivalry?

[Martial_Artist]

I never said I expect to receive anything. I said it is hard for people to be chivalrous when most people do not appreciate it. This has nothing with being selfless. If I save your life I will not expect you to say thank-you. I would appreciate it if you did, but I won't expect it nor hold it against you for not saying so. If I hold a door open for a woman and she does nothing, no thank-you, etc. I think nothing of it. I already said I don't it for any other reason other than that's just the way I am.

 

I did say I do these things because I love the feeling of helping. In what way is this not selflessly?

[telsun]

It was a general statement sperned by your comment. It was not directed at you personally and I do agree with you. Even more so with your last post.

[Martial_Artist]

My bad. Edited July 26, 2003 by Martial_Artist

[telsun]

My apologies

[mArTiAl_GiRl]

lol, ok

[GrrrArg]

Martial Artist just said what I was trying to say...again...grrr..*cries softly into pillow*

[TKDShoujo]

Personally, I think chilvary is nice. Although I do agree with those of you who think it should be practiced by both men and woman. It's called common courtesy and whether you're a woman or man, you should still try and be helpful to other people.

[Bart the Lover]

fireka wrote:

it means just what it said, your attempting to ignore it, thats why you said 'whatever that means'. as if you dont know.

 

No, I don't know. I have no idea what Valithor believes to be essentially

 

female, or essentially male. I don't know him/her. I assume Valithor was

 

not refering to physical differences, as it would be irrelevent to the thread.

 

What am I ignoring? And how does it relate to the subject of this thread?

[fireka]

oh yea! bart your good at this, finnaly someone with professianal argument/debate experince. first let me tackle the last part. it is relevant to the thread because like in a court case were often times the definition of a single word like 'unaware' is the key between inocent and guilty (this happens alot, thell debate for days what one word in a clause means) it is essintial for us to understand the diffrences between men and women if we are to understand why women are targeted with chivalry and not men. i can not speak for valitor, so i will not try. i could also go sevral ways with this. i could explain the scientific research conducted to show how men and women have diffrent thought patterns and use diffrent parts of the brain. but i wont, because then id have to abridge it into something that makes since. so until valitor can respond to this ill say he simply reefers to the diffrences we all know about but choose not to say aloud because they are now considered politicaly incorrect. men and women are diffrent. there is no point in saying we arnt. its obvious. women on a general basis can not do everything men can do. and like wise men cant do everything women can do. (unless your Arnold Schewzenager) The big problem with the femminist party is that they belive proving them selves as able to do everything men can do makes them equal. will you femminist are working harder, not smarter, you should instead say its possible but then highlight the things women do well naturally and make them more important than the lies society has told. and im not saying cooking and cleaning because honestly, ive meet few women who could cook worth crap. The fact behind my statement was, if we are to understand that men and women are diffrent we will understand why women are treated with 'chivalry' as you all like to call it and not men.

 

I really hope valitor comes back to say his point here so my giberish actually makes since.

 

But just a curious note thats way of topic now that im steamed about the feminist thing: why do women want to be like men anyway? were slow, inflexable, narrowminded, accident prone, hormone driven, never in control of our own emmotions, and generally stupider than you!

[chh]

Um, generally speaking, feminists DON'T want to be like men. It's about equality, nothing to do with transgenderism.