is conditioning bad for your health?

[ZeRo]

i have heard that doin knuckle conditionin and stuff like that can mean you cant use your hands when you get old. and that if i condition my hands with knuckle push-ups and stuff like that will damage then heavyly in later life.

 

i want to condition my hands to make breaks abit easyer and to reduce pain if i need to punch things/people.

 

what are your views on conditioning?

[Ironberg]

I'm a medical idiot, so I have nothing to contribute. However, because I have a poor excuse for conditioning in my martial art curriculum, I have to do it myself. I do knuckle pushups, ON CONCRETE. Other times I jab at the lenolium, and vigorously rub rolling pins up and down my shins. I sometimes hammer my basement floor with my palms, or hit myself in the gut among other self-taught garbage. Yes, I do not know if this will kill me when I turn sixty, but right now I just don't know or care. If it does, I'll... I'll... hmmm, what will I do?.

[omnifinite]

From what I know conditioning like iron palm can give you blood clots (very bad) unless you use something like dit da jow properly afterwards.

[Ironberg]

What the heck is dit da jow??

[omnifinite]

A balm.

[ZeRo]

ive heard of that, but i have no idea what it does. anyone care to enlighten me?

[kchenault]

Punch your hand into a bucket of play sand to help calluses form on your knuckles. That should be enough padding to help with breaking. Use corn huskers lotion as well.

[Ironberg]

There may be some light at the end of the tunnel for me. A high ranking buddy at my dojo has enlightened me in the ways of the Iron Palm. It goes beyond throwing your fists into a buckets of sand to throwing them in wood bark, and then metal shavings. The caulouses are turned into rubber, and the rubber turned into pads of rough material, because the metal shavings actually meld with the skin making it ideal for concrete breaks. Yes, dit da jow is a must above the sand stage as it keeps your hands from looking narly and monsterous. I consulted him about any health effects like cancer; he said he never heard of it because it is shouldn't concern anything below the skin if done properly. Any thoughts on the Iron Palm conditioning.

[KickChick]

Dit Da Jow (Cantonese) or Tieh Ta Chiao (Mandarin) means "Hit and Fall Wine" (or liniment). Jow, as it is commonly referred to, can be broken down into two types: Han Dit Da Jow (cold hit medicine) and Rei Dit Da Jow (hot hit medicine). Hot Jow is actually heated for situations that require a lot of circulation, blood flow and lymphatic drainage into an area--such as with iron palm training where you are constantly challenging the skin, bone, muscles and connective tissues of the hand and arm to become tougher and stronger.

 

One of the secrets of jow is in the rubbing. Soft tissue manipulation alone will promote many of the qualities without the jow, though the medicine speeds up the healing time and prevents improper drainage and stagnation problems.

 

Some Di Dat Jow formulas contain very potent and toxic ingredients, and if used improperly, or ingested, can cause serious injury or illness.

 

Your "basic" hand conditioning together with "mind over matter" should suffice for future successful board breaking.

 

 

 

IMO .... One should be properly instructed in Iron Palm.

[BKJ1216]

Okay I got a question. I've been bare knucle hittin the wall of my house. And I'm starting to put dents in the concrete. Should I start using the Di Dat Jow or whatever it's called, and where can I get it? Or how can I stop blood claught cause I'm freaking out about it now, my uncle died from a blood clought.