Kenshin-Kan and goju ryu difference ?

[philippeb]

Hi guys.

I have been practicing goju ryu for some time now, and i have to move to a new city where there is no goju ryu.

Instead there is kenshin-kan goju ryu.

I looked it up (duuhh ) and noticed its allmost identical to goju ryu in kata forms.

Can somone tell mere where it differes from goju ryu karate-do that i practice now ?

I will ask my sensei today at class, but i would like to hear from somone who is not a subject of my leaving the dojo.

(not all in the dojo think its good to take classes at somthing new)

Thank you very much.

[JR 137]

Your best bet is to ask the prospective instructor. He/she should be able to tell you all you need to know about the system/organization.

I'm pretty curious about that last line - not all in the dojo thinks it's good to take classes in something new. Why not? Do they realize that either you do something new, or nothing at all? Do they realize that a lot of the old-school big names in karate also held dan ranking in judo and/or jujitsu?

[Nidan Melbourne]

I haven't heard of Kenshin-Kan before, i'm interested to find out what they do differently.

[Karate_John]

From a little that I know and some Google-fu. I can say that should be Seiichi Akamine's lineage. He was a student of Seko Higa and a big name in south America. Kenshin-Kan was his dojo and Organizations name.

So yes, it will be similar to all Goju schools, and much closer to Okinawan Goju then Japanese Goju.

[philippeb]

Your best bet is to ask the prospective instructor. He/she should be able to tell you all you need to know about the system/organization.

I'm pretty curious about that last line - not all in the dojo thinks it's good to take classes in something new. Why not? Do they realize that either you do something new, or nothing at all? Do they realize that a lot of the old-school big names in karate also held dan ranking in judo and/or jujitsu?

It's kinda hard to explain with words and no context.

To sum it up.

when i told some of them i was going to move and would not be able to study goju ryu, but instead would be able to study some other martial arts (besides karate i can practice anything from kung fu to systema in this dojo), i actually got little to allmost negative response and support.

of course, these people are often those that have trained for more than 2-3x the time i have, and still knows very little of karate, they dont understand what we learn and only memmorize the katas and cant apply their techniques without it being yaksu kumite with 1 attack pattern allowed.

Anyways, i talked to my sensei.

Henrik Larsen a well known name in goju ryu, and he was actually really supportive.

He told me the only downside might be that they arent as organised as his organisation is.

What a great person to be so supportive when i am leaving his dojo for another and even different organisation.

And thanks for the info Karate_John

[Zaine]

I haven't heard of Kenshin-Kan before, i'm interested to find out what they do differently.

Kenshin-Kan is essentially Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu. It's currently headed by Fuse Kisei.

[Nidan Melbourne]

I haven't heard of Kenshin-Kan before, i'm interested to find out what they do differently.

Kenshin-Kan is essentially Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu. It's currently headed by Fuse Kisei.

Ahhh ok that makes sense. Thanks for that Zaine, it explains why i haven't heard of it before.

[wildbourgman]

So it appears that there are two Kenshin Kan groups, on in Shorin Ryu that I train in and one in Goju. The could be very confusing I guess.

[Karate_John]

So it appears that there are two Kenshin Kan groups, on in Shorin Ryu that I train in and one in Goju. The could be very confusing I guess.

That would be correct, Seiichi Akamine's Goju Ryu Ken-Shin-Kan, and Shorin Ryu Kenshin Kan under Fuse Kisei.

[Kusotare]

So it appears that there are two Kenshin Kan groups, on in Shorin Ryu that I train in and one in Goju. The could be very confusing I guess.

That would be correct, Seiichi Akamine's Goju Ryu Ken-Shin-Kan, and Shorin Ryu Kenshin Kan under Fuse Kisei.

I would suggest 'Kenshin' is the dojo name in this respect rather than a style.

It's quite a common name written as either Shinken or Kenshin it mean "true/pure- fist/blade".

K