sensei8 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Are your testing cycles OPEN or CLOSED to spectators??No answer is incorrect, imho, because each school has their preferred idea way of administering their testing cycles. Ours are OPEN for all ranks!!Thanks to Hawkmoon for suggesting this poll in the thread..."You Want It...Then EARN IT!!" in the Instructor Central forum. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashworth Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 OpenHard to say no to parents that want to see their kids during a grading, but I do make sure they aren't near the mat, in our last location there was a separate room that had a view into the dojo so parents used to sit in there. and luckily for my adult gradings normally no one wants to watch them, except for one time a higher grade aikido-ka decided to pop in to see how I do things, was nervous myself! let alone the ones grading! So yeah my gradings are open to all, but I do prefer it when everyone is on the mat with no one watching... Ashley AldworthTrain together, Learn together, Succeed together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Closed.They can 'wait' out side if they wish, but parents and/or partners are not allowed to view the test/grading.Students that are thought or considered to be under performing are spoken to way before the given dates and advised and supported as needed, then if all is well they grade, if not they are not put forward.Its been the way as far as my gradings have gone since my first grading ... some 20 odd years ago.What little I understand of the ruling comes form Sosai Oyama, basically his view of how karate should be taught. (I have to confess to being ignorant of the origins of the 'way things are' as I have simply and even blindly accepted 'this is the way and thats it!") Edited January 15, 2016 by Hawkmoon “A human life gains luster and strength only when it is polished and tempered.”Sosai Masutatsu Oyama (1923 - 1994) Founder of Kyokushin Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan Melbourne Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Our gradings are open to be watched. Personally i dont like it for our junior kyu gradings. Because i feel like it makes the kids more nervous. Our adult kyu gradings are during class so people are still training. Our Black Belt Gradings i feel like each student should have someone there to provide support and first aid during the grading itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wastelander Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Our testing is always open to spectators. Parents like to watch their kids, and sometimes friends come along, too. For adults, their families tend to come and watch, as well. We see the dojo as a family, so we also have other students come just to watch their dojo-mates test. I think it's good for these things to be open, because it takes away some of the mysticism that can sometimes build up when talking about testing. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther unleashed Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Very interesting thread, I have did before I used to have my 8 year old son in a karate program. He wasn't where I trained because of class times and with us training and myself in a very demanding instructor training program the times didn't work so he went elsewhere. I was really taken back I couldn't view his first testing. As an instructor I was frustrated because I wanted to see his progress and him perform under pressure. As a parent I felt it was like hiding something and I felt jipped! I was never able to understand completely why, and I always felt it was wrong to have me outside while my kid is inside. Not a knock on those with private testing, but as a parent and instructor I just can't be ok with it. Iv also said before that to me, students testing is equivalent to our version of a "game" as there would be in a sport like soccer or basketball! Also, it shows the newer students what to expect. Open testing here! Hustle and hard work are a substitute for talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther unleashed Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wish there was a "like" button because there are some great posts! Hustle and hard work are a substitute for talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 IMO, ANY class, regardless of what is going on, should be open to parents and spectators. If it isn't, then I sould be suspect as to what is going on in there, especially with kids. If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther unleashed Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 IMO, ANY class, regardless of what is going on, should be open to parents and spectators. If it isn't, then I sould be suspect as to what is going on in there, especially with kids.In a very simple and direct way you have stated some of what I was saying. I felt that way when my son had his testing that I couldn't see. In my mind, if he failed that leaves me with so many questions as to how or why no understanding of his progression or lack there of Hustle and hard work are a substitute for talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 We used to have ours open but switched to closed. Mainly because of the kids. I realize it's nice for parents to watch their kids but the main reason we did it is because those same parents like to criticize others. Parents can be pretty deluded when it comes to their kids and wonder why little their little Jimmy didn't pass when he is clearly better than Bobbie. Classes are always open to watch so they can see their kids there and 1st dan gradings are usually open to all. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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