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So i injured my knee recently. Happened during a throw - hiza guruma was the culpret

Anyway - my main system is goju - I am putting the judo on hold - possibly for good. Even hitting the heavybag was throwing my knee out - the rotation did it.

I did not stop training - kata for form, makiwara, chishi, speed bag, Iron pole training.

I got the MRI, torn meniscus. I rushed in and got the surgery. Painful

No kicks for a loooong time

My question is this. Is progression possible?

Nothing Worth Having Is Easily Obtained - ESPECIALLY RANK

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Posted

Sorry to hear about your knee.

As with most everything, TIME will tell. If an injury isn't rushed and allowed to follow the natural course of healing and the like. A long time is relevent, and in that, to rush it will mean that you'll never be able to progress positively. Rank can wait because it's just not that important. Knowledge and the like will progress if you're proactive about it!!

Take care, take time to heal properly, and listen to your DOCTOR and not your Sensei, unless your Sensei is also your Doctor.

:)

**Proof is on the floor!!!

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My Sensei said exactly what he should have said- he's no a problem. He is changing thing up for me. I have a new respect for him. We are working on building my core, and arms, forearms, shoulders, hands.

My knee should heal. I am just worried about how inability would slow down developement

Nothing Worth Having Is Easily Obtained - ESPECIALLY RANK

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Well, as someone in a similar position (3 torn ligaments, broken metatarsal), I can sympathise. What I've been doing is working on the mental aspect of training; meditating, reading books on karate, and visualising moves e.g. kata. Visualising and really 'feeling' it in your head can help. And like you said, there are other parts of your body you can work on. So you can make a certain kind of progress, and in fact work on areas that others might neglect.

Also, I have been getting deep tissue massage from a physio which helps break down the scar tissue so you have a better chance of regaining better movement. I'm not a doctor or a physiotherapist so can't comment on whether this would be suitable for you, but it might be worth seeing a good sports therapist to get their opinion on whether it would be worthwhile in your case. You will have to wait until the healing has reached a certain stage, and it will probably be expensive, but worth it in the long run.

Hope your knee gets better soon!

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Make sure you do some rehab on your knee to help strengthen it up.

I have had multiple knee injuries and I still am able to train because of rehab. and I have been promoted multiple times with those injuries & surgeries. So I am now a shodan in goju. But anything is possible

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It is very common for students to be able to develop high power, and still have their joints in mis-alignment. Over time, this leads to injury.

During rehab, make sure you work so that your legs are balanced (right vs. left, quads vs. hamstrings, vastus lateralis vs. vastus medialis). A good physical therapist can help temendously. So can a sensei who understands physical development, anatomy and physiology. Also, strong leg muscles will be very important to protect your joint in the future, as with less meniscus you are more prone for developing osteoarthritis later in life after your surgery.

Next, a good instructor can make sure that you are using your body correctly. In our martial arts school in San Diego, we see many students come in with very poor attention to joint alignment. Over rotation of joints, sideloads on knees, all those things can be corrected, and should be corrected, lest they lead to further injury.

I wish you a quick recovery!

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Oh shut...I'm no medical doctor, but I know that with time, patience, dedication, patience, passion for martial arts, and more patience you will be better than ever before. (maybe less athletic, but better nevertheless).

Wish you a speedy recovery!

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Goju Ryu (Yushinkan since 1989), Shotokan (JKA since 2005)

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