JWLuiza Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I think you are right, ps1. In most Korean styles that use the red belt, it tends to be the belt before black (at least, in my experience).You are correct from what I have experienced. Tang Soo Do and Soo Bahk Do schools use a red stripe through the center of the black (or midnight blue) at master level and above (4th degree in TSD). The folklore was that students covered their redbelts with black cloth that would wear through in the middle, exposing the red.... It probably just looked cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Tom OBrien Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 french fri25 & norris197 sounds like you guys are getting ready to get your blackbelts. Good Luck.Thanks,Sensei Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I think you are right, ps1. In most Korean styles that use the red belt, it tends to be the belt before black (at least, in my experience).You are correct from what I have experienced. Tang Soo Do and Soo Bahk Do schools use a red stripe through the center of the black (or midnight blue) at master level and above (4th degree in TSD). The folklore was that students covered their redbelts with black cloth that would wear through in the middle, exposing the red.... It probably just looked cool Folklore or not, it is interesting none the less. In one style I studied, the red belt came before the black, and symbolized "warning" or "danger." The philosophy behind this was that the student had all of the technical knowledge of the black belt, but not quite the control and discipline of the black belt. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWLuiza Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I think you are right, ps1. In most Korean styles that use the red belt, it tends to be the belt before black (at least, in my experience).You are correct from what I have experienced. Tang Soo Do and Soo Bahk Do schools use a red stripe through the center of the black (or midnight blue) at master level and above (4th degree in TSD). The folklore was that students covered their redbelts with black cloth that would wear through in the middle, exposing the red.... It probably just looked cool Folklore or not, it is interesting none the less. In one style I studied, the red belt came before the black, and symbolized "warning" or "danger." The philosophy behind this was that the student had all of the technical knowledge of the black belt, but not quite the control and discipline of the black belt.I think the folklore gives some insight into the paradigm of the current practitioners...I agree with the redbelt (1st gup) group being the most dangerous. At our tournament (yearly open tournament) it isn't the heavy weight men's black belt division that's the most dangerous (BRAG: I won the combined heavy/light heavy division just this past Saturday) it is the brown belt (first gup) division. Except this year, it was the men's blue belt.... So I turned to my friend and said:"Blue is the new Brown"And right after that, the nurse was called over for a broken nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 It is an interesting paradigm, isn't it, John? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbelt_girl15 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 In Cuong Nhu we have a plain black belt then red stripes.No gold or lettering until 6th dan.We have a story that symbolises what our belts stand for.To make a long story short... A white belt is like a seed,a green belt is like a young tree starting to grow, a brown belt is a tree with strong roots and tough bark, and a black belt is a phyically weathered and mature tree.Each red stripe in dan ranks indicate the fruit of the tree.At 6th dan you have a black and red belt with gold stripes indicating both the tree's rings, autumn indicating age and wisdom.And 7th dan is a mostly red belt with the wearers name in gold. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love, a spirit of power, and of self-discipline.2 Timothy 1:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOwl Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 hmmm- but belts are still relatively new so how far back these traditions go may be suspect, especially when it comes to kung fu schools. Besides, there is nothing wrong with it just looking cool Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.~Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 In Cuong Nhu we have a plain black belt then red stripes.No gold or lettering until 6th dan.We have a story that symbolises what our belts stand for.To make a long story short... A white belt is like a seed,a green belt is like a young tree starting to grow, a brown belt is a tree with strong roots and tough bark, and a black belt is a phyically weathered and mature tree.Each red stripe in dan ranks indicate the fruit of the tree.At 6th dan you have a black and red belt with gold stripes indicating both the tree's rings, autumn indicating age and wisdom.And 7th dan is a mostly red belt with the wearers name in gold.In the ATA, they follow a story much like that, using the Pine Tree as the symbol.hmmm- but belts are still relatively new so how far back these traditions go may be suspect, especially when it comes to kung fu schools. Besides, there is nothing wrong with it just looking cool Very good point, NightOwl. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan-kez Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I don't hold a black belt just yet, but when i do it'll be my name on one side and shotokan on the other, both in Japanese. Generally you can have what you like embroidered on your black belt. Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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