Shotokan Karate to Judo

[Shotokan-Karate]

What are the pros about them both and cons (list like Pros: blah blah blah Cons: blah blah blah) Respectfully,

Jay

[Menjo]

What are the pros about them both and cons (list like Pros: blah blah blah Cons: blah blah blah) Respectfully,

Jay

Depends on you, depends on your instructor, depends on your location(Different countries train differently).

Just depends on training!

Good luck.

Edited June 6, 2006 by Menjo

[bushido_man96]

Shotokan: Pros..kicking and striking, standup sparring, footwork, forms and self-defense applications.

Judo: Pros..takedowns and throwing, ground game, chokes, locks, submissions.

[cathal]

Those are two good styles to learn together.

[Ace2021]

Basic:

Karate Pros: Striking

Karate Cons: Groundwork/ Grappling / Wrestling

Judo Pros: Grappling/Wrestling

Judo Cons: Striking

Ironic isn't it?

[lordtariel]

Shotokan: Can be practiced by yourself anywhere

Judo: Primarily practiced only with a partner on mats. In early training you must have an advanced student or instructor with you as well.

As other people have said, one's primarily a striking art, the other's a grappling art. I recommend getting some training in both if you're looking to train for self defense. I found I was more injury prone in Judo, but it probably really depends on the person and the class.

[css1971]

Karate Cons: Groundwork/ Grappling / Wrestling

Karate is a mixed martial art which includes grappling, throws, locks, chokes, strangles. As well as strikes. It always has been. If you're not practicing it that way you're practicing kickboxing, not karate.

e.g.

http://www.iainabernethy.com/books/chapter_karates_grappling_methods.asp

[ps1]

Karate Cons: Groundwork/ Grappling / Wrestling

Karate is a mixed martial art which includes grappling, throws, locks, chokes, strangles. As well as strikes. It always has been. If you're not practicing it that way you're practicing kickboxing, not karate.

I agree that Karate does contain grappling, throws, locks, and so on. However, since training in an art that specializes in those techniques (Aiki Jujitsu and Brazilian Jiujitsu) Karate's way of applying them uses more energy than is necessary sometimes. Afterall, traditional Kodokan Judo contains punches and kicks...but it's still the weak part of the system. Karate teaches the throws and whatnot...but they are still the weakest part of most Karate systems.

[italian_guy]

Karate Cons: Groundwork/ Grappling / Wrestling

Karate is a mixed martial art which includes grappling, throws, locks, chokes, strangles. As well as strikes. It always has been. If you're not practicing it that way you're practicing kickboxing, not karate.

I agree that Karate does contain grappling, throws, locks, and so on. However, since training in an art that specializes in those techniques (Aiki Jujitsu and Brazilian Jiujitsu) Karate's way of applying them uses more energy than is necessary sometimes. Afterall, traditional Kodokan Judo contains punches and kicks...but it's still the weak part of the system. Karate teaches the throws and whatnot...but they are still the weakest part of most Karate systems.

I do not agree, karate is 70% striking and 30% grappling, we may not have all the option that a Jodoka, BJJ or JJJ has but we have our thows/armlock and ground work arsenal and we practice it.

[Yasutsune Makoto]

Karate Cons: Groundwork/ Grappling / Wrestling

Karate is a mixed martial art which includes grappling, throws, locks, chokes, strangles. As well as strikes. It always has been. If you're not practicing it that way you're practicing kickboxing, not karate.

I agree that Karate does contain grappling, throws, locks, and so on. However, since training in an art that specializes in those techniques (Aiki Jujitsu and Brazilian Jiujitsu) Karate's way of applying them uses more energy than is necessary sometimes. Afterall, traditional Kodokan Judo contains punches and kicks...but it's still the weak part of the system. Karate teaches the throws and whatnot...but they are still the weakest part of most Karate systems.

I do not agree, karate is 70% striking and 30% grappling, we may not have all the option that a Jodoka, BJJ or JJJ has but we have our thows/armlock and ground work arsenal and we practice it.

that depends on your style and your instructor.

they are great to cross-train together and i think that the weaknesses of one are the strengths of the other, as has been pointed out. I have studied both for most of my life and have only seen good things come of it.