TJS Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Judoguy I agree with you. Sadly alot of mma fans are pretty closed minded. I mean at one point everyone said that high kicks could never work in MMA aswell. Nowadays you see spinning back kicks and Headkick KO's quite commonly. I do belive other stlyes can work if they adapt their training meathods and techniques. that said there still hasant been a more sucessful combo then BJJ and MT/Boxing so far. I have always loved judo and im glad to see more big name guys getting in it. There were quite a few judo guys in the early UFC's and other events such as Chris Lenninger, remco pardoel, brian johnston etc. Most of them didint do as well as guys like Karo and yoshida are doing these days. So it's good to kep an open mind. I guess well get another taste when Natsula(sp?) takes on Nogiera.
judoguy Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Judoguy I agree with you. Sadly alot of mma fans are pretty closed minded. I mean at one point everyone said that high kicks could never work in MMA aswell. Nowadays you see spinning back kicks and Headkick KO's quite commonly. I do belive other stlyes can work if they adapt their training meathods and techniques. that said there still hasant been a more sucessful combo then BJJ and MT/Boxing so far. I have always loved judo and im glad to see more big name guys getting in it. There were quite a few judo guys in the early UFC's and other events such as Chris Lenninger, remco pardoel, brian johnston etc. Most of them didint do as well as guys like Karo and yoshida are doing these days. So it's good to kep an open mind. I guess well get another taste when Natsula(sp?) takes on Nogiera.I forgot about Remco and those guy's in the early ufc events. THey were good judo guy's but nowhere the level of Yoshida and Karo. I'm only going to ask you once...
TJS Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Is Karo that good in pure Judo? I thought he did good on a national level but is he really a standuout? I do really follow judo that much so im not sure.Remco was a Multi time European National champion and lenninger was like a 2x Us national champion if I rember correctly.
BJJ is 1 Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 I realy like BJJ but lets face it todays NHB is much different from the days when Royce would walk onto the octogon against like a Karate guy take him down, eaisly take his back down, and choke him, because nobody outside of Brazil knew about BJJ, But today nearly everybody has atleast some training on the groundSo in the world of NHB today you cannot rely on one art you have to cross train "Without Jiu Jitsu its like without my two legs."-Rickson Graciehttps://www.myspace.com/cobraguard
Sam Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 i think thats the point a lot of people have made over the course of discussions about MMA styles - a lot of the reason MT and BJJ do so well is because of how they train.... and since so few otehr arts train in a similar way it would be difficult to conclude its the art and not the training methods that make them that much better int eh octogonAnd as BJJ is #1 - all the best UFC / MMA / NHB whatever fighters out there cross train, no single art covers it all in the smae details 2 arts do....
y2_sub Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 A modern martial artist MUST train in two (or more ) fighting styles if he is to compete in UFC . BJJ alone is not effective all the times and Muay thai alone don't cover ground fighting so a combination of both would be perfect . In the other hand a combination of a good traditional striking art with a good traditional grappling art works perfectly as well , say kyokushin and judo , isn't that a perfect mix ?? What made the biggest impact in UFC is BJJ , whats good for the future of UFC/MMA is Muay thai I would like to c how a daidu juku guy would do in UFC !!!!!!!! Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
italian_guy Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 I agree with y2_sub you need a combo of 1 striking + one grappling, If I have to choose only one I would take BJJ.
Goju_boi Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 has there ever been a kung fu or tkd guy in the ufc? https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
elbows_and_knees Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 there have been a few kung fu guys - they all got schooled horribly. There has never been a pure TKD guy, but there have been guys who train kickboxing now, but did tkd when they were younger.
Goju_boi Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 gotcha,why did these kung fu guys get beat up so bad?Kung Fu is a great fighting art,or is it that they only had Kung-Fu and no grappling? https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
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