White Warlock Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Women are pyshical weaker than men. But most women in Wing Tsun outclass me, because they are more sensitive, they are more like water and I am hmm more like mud.Agree with you 100% Thaegen. You're more like mud. (disclaimer for the admins - Thaegen is a friend. I.e., this is a friendly jab.) "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenteReligieuse Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Men usually think that they need to prove their strength, and try to over power the other person. However, most females learn how to fight using their heads, thus making them better fighters. They have nothing to prove, and are willing to try the combos Isn't what you just said two more stereotypes? I know I don't feel the need to prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian_guy Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I think that Women have, on average, more flexibility then us they are less tense and they tend to learn the technique with more patience rather then learn it and use it at full power, as soon as possible like we do. Besides this I've notice a great interest about martial arts in women. In my karate class and also in my TCC class there are more women then men. However in my old Kickboxing class we had more men but still we had some women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaG Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Isn't what you just said two more stereotypes? I know I don't feel the need to prove anything. The problem with stereotypes is that they often come about when the majority is true. It's like cliches, used so often because they are so often true. Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 A little tale: The testing day, for a Black Belt, in one of many systems that I had studied, the test was privately scheduled. Preparations were made by my instructor and I only knew that I had to perform many hsings (sets) and some sparring. After, a serious of doing the sets, 9 of them, but left and right, which made it 18. All of them had to be done in consecutive order with only a 2-minute break, or shall I say "pause", in between. Needless to state I was exhausted. Then came the sparring. This was not the usual that we had. The instructor had a circular "ring" taped on the floor. The ring was about 12-14 in circumference. (This is a approx, I have to look through my notes so long ago) The object: The BB candidate had to remain in the ring, no matter what, for a period of 5-6 minutes (ditto on notes) There were two opponents, that can do anything to get the candidate out of the ring. Once outside, the whole BB test was considered invalid. Thus a re-take would be scheduled much later in time. My two opponents, one "familiar" male, in his 30's. And a very unfamiliar female, near the same age. Since I was younger (and a little naive), I had thought that I had youth over them. And I had also thought, that all I had to do was focus primarily on the male. How wrong was I. Within 2-minutes after tussling with the male, the female had kicked me so hard in the abs, that I had "sailed" completely out of the ring several feet and gasping for air. Come to find out, she was the instructor's best female student and a sparring champion. Further, in the future, we had sparred and she is one tough cookie. I came away wiser, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Neat story 47MM. I just goes to show you should never underestimate anyone. On this topic, from my perspective, I have two children that have been training with me for about a year. My 10-year-old daughter, and my 12 year old son. My son loves the training, he loves sparring, and he has taken first in his division in the last three tournys we've been to. My daughter, enjoys sparring, but is not passionate about it. In the last three tournaments, she didn't place in one, and took a 2nd, and a 3rd respectively. But, my daughter's techniques are amazing. Even with the basic strikes and kicks, she has a much more natural ability to grasp them and improve upon them. In forms, my daughter has place 2nd, 1st, 1st respectively, where as my son didn't place twice, and took a 3rd in our last one. I don't think this is particularly the norm, but I think it shows that woman, even young ladies, can excell within the MAs. I myself, much like you 47MM have had my clock cleaned by sever very good woman who I have come up against. Anyone who thinks woman are not just as good, or even better than men in the MA in general (I'll qualify it as a general assumption) are not in touch with reality. Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jules Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 One of the things that Ive noticed about women in the arts, is that they seem to be able to pick up on the more "graceful" aspects of training.....for example.....have you ever noticed that when females perform certain kata, or techniques which require a more subtle and fluid movement, they are much more dextrous than men, who usually appear to be a lot "stiffer".......its not a flexibility issue, but a sensitivity towards the softer side of the arts......and life in general. In any case....thats just my thoughts on the subject..... ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenteReligieuse Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well it is a fact that in general, women are more dextrous than men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melody Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I agree with the others. I think men feel a need to prove their strength, so they sort of flip out. Each gender just has its own mindset. I am a female, and the first time I sparred I did great, and had a good time, and that was all that mattered. I dodn't want to make a fool out of myself, but I didn't feel a need to prove anything. I was more concerned with correct form than anything. I just relaxed and let my instincts and training carry me through. I think it really has something to do with the personalities of male and female And I also agree w/ M. Jules b/c I find the more graceful quality within the art, but it really helps. You get your power from your form....but I also used to take dance, so that could play a role..... .: No matter what happens you must have faith in yourself, or no one else will ever have faith in you. If you have the desire, you can do anything :. (A quote from my sensei) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dear john Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 given the right mind set most women would do good. the only problem i have with people who say that women make better martial artists is that most (90%) i have met are not good fighters. most of them seem to stray away from getting hurt and seem to get stressed in just sparring. women may have a better tolerance for pain, but men are hands down more likely to accept pain. and i have never had a female opponent of my rank and until BB above my rankl beat me at grappling or sparring. but then again i have more dedication than anyone in my class, so i dont know how impartial i can be. you people can argue all day long between the good and bad of women MA's and men MA's, but in the end it all comes down to who knows more, who has more training and who wants it more. wanting it more than the other is enough to win alone. the funny thing is that i know im wrong and i know your right, yet you keep argueing like it will change my mind. you should really know, you dont have to be right to win:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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