SevenStar Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Also, the bench press doesn't give you full shoulder development, it doesn't strengthen muscles around it like a push up. So you are alot more likely to get injured because of the disproportion. If you are training to fight, then isolation is a big mistake, leave that to the bodybuilders. a pushup is not a strength exercise past a certain point. It becomes an endurance exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Being bulky and being strong are two different things. Endurance has more to do with cardiovascular endurance than muscle edurance. If you can't get enough oxygen to the muscles then how strong you are doesn't really matter. Learn to strike using your body structure rather than using muscle power, you will last longer in a fight. Preserve your muscle strength for when you really need it. bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 You can always appy tension to your muscles or go slower, add weight of some kinds, elevate your feet. Countless ways to increase the push up. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) the bench press is not an olympic lift, it's a power lifting event. The only olympic lifts are the * * and clean and jerk I believe. I think you are getting confused here my friend. Isolation is for bodybuilders. Edited June 23, 2004 by sansoouser The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 And can you explain how it is not an isolation movement? you support your body on a bench. I find that funny how you didn't identify atleast one actual olympic lift.... The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 an isolation movement is a movement that involves on muscle - like a curl. I don't think I'm the confused one... I know the bench isn't an O lift. I threw it in because it's a compound lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 You can always appy tension to your muscles or go slower, add weight of some kinds, elevate your feet. Countless ways to increase the push up. fraid not... once again, you will even out - eventually, you can't put your feet any higher. how much weight can you support on your back without it falling? bodyweight = endurance, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLopez Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 There is absolutely nothing wrong with strength training. Strength training does not equal body building. If you don't believe me, just look at your average professional football or basketball player. Most of those guys look like they're chiseled out of granite, but they have endurance and agility, to go along with their strength. Why? Because they do strength weight training as part of their overall training regimen. It's no different for a martial artist either. I strength train with weights, but I don't ever want to become "muscle bound", and I believe as long as I perform flexibility and endurance excercises, there's no reason why I can't have big muscles and still be quick and agile, and have stamina. In fact, that's what keeps me going some days, is breaking up my workouts into cardio days and strength days. DeanDahn Boh Nim - Black-Brown BeltKuk Sool Won"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 And can you explain how it is not an isolation movement? you support your body on a bench. I find that funny how you didn't identify atleast one actual olympic lift.... I guess you missed it - the first thing I listed was the clean... instead of laughing, find some glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted June 23, 2004 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 bodyweight only for endurance? BODYWEIGHT ONLY FOR ENDURANCE!?!?!?!? http://www.mattfurey.com/one_arm_pushups_061504.html http://www.mattfurey.com/bench_press_061704.html http://www.mattfurey.com/one_legged_squats_061604.html and there's plenty more where these came from... The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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