Daisho

Hey andy, welcome it is completely normal to feel muscle aches after any workout that causes that muscle to repair. my advice is to make sure to be replenishing yourself postworkout (i usually stop at the 7-11 and pick up a muscle-milk drink, or i'll wait until i get home and make myself a protein shake), to make sure the repairing of the muscle doesn't have a catabolic effect. If the aches feel more like joint aches, then i'd try and remember to eat some nuts daily, for essential fats that help "lube" up your joints. I wouldn't push myself to do anything that my body isn't prepared for. Regardless of what the class is doing, if i feel my heart-rate to be waay elevated, i'll take a minute, or if we're tumbling and i feel a tug in a muscle, i'll stop for a few minutes and flex it/stretch it, and generally make sure i haven't done any damage. This doesn't mean i don't push myself, it just means i have to be responsible for my body first, then my training second. if you want more specifics, you should checkout the Advice Plz thread that's going, as a few KF members have been helping someone with a similar issue.

aikiguy, come to think of it, i do only get the shakes when engaged in anaerobic excersize like the last few reps of just about any set (especially the dreaded squats...noooooooo!!!!) i assumed it to be an aerboic issue based upon my own training situations, where my strength and muscle endurance is never pushed to the limit in the dojo, and yet sometimes my body will weaken due to weeks where i weaken on my cardio. I never meant to imply weight training doesn't have any benefit to a martial artist, as i've said before, i'm an avid gym-rat. I see hernia's, and muscle tears and pulls from soo many fellow students because their physical strength is a bit lacking. Technique will overcome strength quite often, but we've all engaged in a practice where we flubb a throw or what not, and if we don't have the raw power to compensate for our slip in technique, serious injury can occur. i hope this thread is as beneficial to the OP, as it has been to me

Miyama Ryu- an attempt at remaining true to the combat ability of the Samurai. Our striking and takedowns are traditional jujutsu applications, and meant to be followed by a finishing move (instead of extended joint manipulation like MMA jujutsu). Aside from Jujutsu, we train extensively in Kenjutsu, in a very hands on approach. From day one you are attacking and defending with your bokken. We also utilize alot of Aikido's grips and locks for maintaining control over a specific hand (should the enemy be controlling a weapon). And we practice much Judo applications to support our Aikido and Jujutsu takedowns. Our applications are combat oriented; strikes to the throat, armed combat, our joint locks are taught to destroy the joint, not maintain control for a tap-out. We also attend regular seminars on Jojutsu, and being skilled with the short-staff is a manner of pride within our dojo.

your description does sound like a much more efficient lift, but when i see them doing it, they're definitely taking the negative part of the lift away, and allowing the guy benching to explode upward. however, it seems i can't find any online resources to corroborate that assumption. actually closest in concept i can find is ballistic training (wiki), but i can't find anything on the actual mechanics of the power-lift.

aaahhhhhhhh colorblind. you are very wise bushido (somehow the whole turn of events in this thread remind me of koans during zazen). well then lets make haste in our martial preparedness.... and let us stare at the sun until we've acheived ultimate colorblindness. btw, i heard in some dojos, you get a patch sewn on your gi for achieveing true-colorblindedness.

lol clash, if they all stand in tight formation, the sheer vastnessess of their prism can overload the sensory cortex of the brain. i heard it works on lions as well ??

ROFL great post!!

lol zanshin, i'm happy you enjoyed the video. and although the gi's did look flamboyant and goofy as hell, i wouldn't assume that they weren't capable combatants.

i workout at a mainly boxing oriented gym. I've heardd people voice a very similar question. I forget the name of the actual move, but i think it's called negative force lifts (or maybe i just made that name up). ANyway, the bench press requires the person to explode upward with power, and then the spotter takes control of most of the weight for the downward motion, allowing more reps of a more explosive nature. While there are some people who do this (and i believe arnold schwarzeneger had something in his fitness encyclopedia about it), you are cutting down the amount of muscle stimulation you're recieving, not to mention localizing you're growth over a very specific part of the muscle. This could lead to poor function in full range of motion excersizes.

i agree bushido. my weekly regiment is 3 days of power-lifting, and 3 days of martial arts per week, along with 5 days of cardio post lifting on gym days, pre-training on dojo nights. Combinations of lifting and cardio is a powerful tool for preparing the body for activity. If I were looking to increase strength and endurance at the same time, i'd adjust my training back to a high intensity interval program ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training ). However if the question was just to increase my endurance, i'd target my lungs and heart more than my individual skeletal muscles. I'd go for 100% cardio, then start blending over toward a H.I.I.T. program.

I agree with bushido, running, or any other high cardio training will increase your endurance, as it extends the amount of time your heart can function at a higher rate before fatigue overcomes the working muscles. weight training will increase your power, but considering the anaerobic nature of lifting, i don't think it'll benefit you much in performance endurance. Larger muscles will have more capacity to deal with the build-up of lactic acids inside them, which would benefit the expenditure of themuscle, but it will also burn through their glycogen reserves more quickly. i just posted a thread about a similar issue, but mine is about the long-term, week to week energy levels. If i were looking to boost hard for a class, I'd increase my calorie intake, supplement with a multi-B-vitamin (just to be sure), and get my body into a cycle of high protein day-to-day, and carbing up the dinner prior to each dojo visit. And most of all i'd be increasing my daily cardio workouts.

my typical week is a 3-day split of weight training, broken up by my 3 days of karate per week, and one full recovery day. For more info on the weight training portion see http://www.ast-ss.com/max-ot/max-ot_intro.asp. But the basis of Max O-T is maximum overload training (pyramid training for those familiar), which is great because my gym time is back down to a manageable 45 mins from 1 and 1/2 hours. Problem is that i'm never 100% recovered from shoulders or bi's/tri's before Sunday's Kenjutsu, and my Thursday is a nightmare going through training following wednesday's thigh workout. As it is my diet is pretty damn good, and i've added fish oils and L-glutamine before bed to help in the recovery process, but for some reason the past few weeks have been taking a toll. I've even increased my calories to 2300 per day to guarantee my body get a good base of proteins and fats, plus allowing enough carbs to boost my time at the dojo. ANyone have issues with their training, or have a better set-up to maximize recovery/training schedule? Mine changes quite often, but here's the split i'm currently doing: Monday: back/shoulders/calves Tuesday: Jujutsu/Aikido Wednesday: chest/traps/thighs Thursday: Jujutsu/Judo Friday: abs/bicep/tricep Saturday: off Sunday: Kenjutsu/Jujutsu

why not find someone who is proficient in snake style kung fu and plan your vacation accordingly? last year i saved up my 3 weeks of vacation and travelled to Vancouver to study jojutsu with a master I had researched, and corresponded with via email. He even saved me a boatload of my budget by allowing me to spend the final week at his place. It was a great experience, and gave me a comfortable understanding of what's involved in the art, if not the ability to apply the concepts. I doubt you'd be able to absorb enough, or even be taught enough to consider yourself a true practitioner of the style, at least it will give you an understanding of what's all involved. One word of advice, train hard before you'd go. I made sure my cardio endurance and strength was enough to handle however many extended hours I would be able to train.

that;s great that you enjoyed your class. Best part is the longer you train, the more enjoyable classes become

Family: martial arts that have common derivitives. Like Miyama Ryu's focus is on the samurai family of styles Jujutsu/kenjutsu/judo/aikido. Branch: I would take this to be a specific location of a school, or a specialization offshoot. Like a student who learns Aikido, might one day make his own school, and specialize in the aiki-jutsu aspects of his training. If he remains affiliated with his original dojo, his might be considered a branch. Style: An overall philosophy for the application of bio-mechanics. A style is a combination of form, execution, tactics, and possibly esoteric philo. Form: Body positioning/posturing to that maximize the torque and power of it's potential energy, with the intent of action/reaction. This is displayed and passed down in the form of katas.

hi I remember their used to be a Tang Soo Do dojo in my city when I was younger. However, like most schools, it closed up when the Mcdojo Emporium opened up on the highway I just passed my greenbelt test to finally move past my blue , 7 years to green is pretty good for us. where are you from?

I was watching their form as well, but this was their first time with a sword in their hand, and their footwork showed their hesitations and indecisiveness. It was just such a stark contrast. From Sensei to newest member, we're in all white gi's, and regular belts. And these guys look like an explosion of color. To me personally it doesn't look very "martial" to be so flamboyant, but I'm dying to see the interior of their dojo now! btw, I found a great video of this kinda phenomena.... go to youtube and do a search for "pimp my gi" i guarantee it's worth it

heeeeeee-ya!! lol I'm 29 and live in the NYC suburbs. I've studied martial arts on and off since I was 6. I recieved a blackbelt in Isshinryu about 10 years ago in a school that gave away blackbelts like candy on Halloween. Now I'm in my 7th year of Miyama Ryu (Jujutsu/judo/aiki-jutsu/kenjutsu). Just looking to make some friends in MA outside of my dojo

Hey guys, this is my first post here , anyway today we had some visitors to our dojo from a dojo across town. Some of their students are looking for more in-depth Kenjutsu, so I guess they're being sent over to cross train. Anyway when they walked in I was in awe of their gi's. They had ryu patches, dragons holding yin/yang balls, a huge specialized dojo crest on the back, starsfrom the knee to the ankles, Korean flags, some kenji symbols, I mean the works. Not to mention their collars are tri-color striped, as are the belts, and their Sensei was wearing a blue gi top, with red pants. I've trained Miyama Ryu at the same dojo for 7 years, and had some people come cross-train with us, but never seen such adornment. Our Sensei is pretty old school. No-one wears patches or multi-colored gi's, and the only people allowed to wear one are combat vets, who are allowed to wear a U.S. flag on their breast. Anyway, make a long story short, it would be funny to see a fashion show of some of the more baroque gi's, can anyone recommend a website that is dedicated to that sort of thing?