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The problem is, all people can do for some reason is focus on TKDs high kicks, like its all they learn. And yes you have a lot of schools out there that focus to much on sport. But thats what those students want. Also people need to keep in mind that TKD learns a lot more than just high kicks. They learn all the other kicks as well. As far as hand techniques and defenses most TKD schools get this from Hapkido, and if anyone has ever saw or went up against one of us then you know what Hapkido is all about and capable of. TKD is not a bad system, its just that there are a lot of schools out there, not just TKD, that focuses on sport or is all about the money. But when something becomes popular then the die hard masses think that selling out is taking place, or that if it is so popular then it must not be that good. I don't care what the system was but we would be having this same conversation if say Wing Chun was so popular and in the public eye. As for Bjj, its already starting to happen. People yell about TKD and their kicking, well its the same already with the ground arts. Popularity breeds dislike, even if its not justified.

Actualy all that is required to open your own school is a minimum 2nd dan with considerable teaching experiance, and have begun the healing art aspect of the studies. Even then if you want to go off on your own then there is no requirements. Many systems do not even get very indepth with the healing aspects.

4 total and holding strong. They all have a special meaning to me. I am predominatly Irish/American Indian and they are all based on the NAtive American side of my heritage. I am strong in those beliefs. And I'm not related to Pochahontis or anything. For me it was probebly the wierdo who lived in the TeePee on the outskirts of the camp. You know the one that all the kids were afraid of.

Plain and simple, depends on skill level and capability. Nothing is 100% except everything caries. Oh and death.

Hey I see some Hapkido. Seriously, it is crazy that they can't (KMA community) get their heads outa their butts. We have such increadable systems in HKD, HRD, KSW and no one can take us seriously if we can't get along amongst ourselves. As for the article and techniques, it sound a good bit like my Dojang as far as techniques. But my teacher is connected to all the old GM and came up with them so its no surprise to see so many simular elements.

Yup, our primary fighting stance is a boxer's stance. It works well and gives nothing away.

I know this isnt exactly answering your question. But, I know that many Hapkido schools teach the disabled, people in wheelchairs, blind, ect. We at one point in time had a young man who had only 2 fingers on one of his hands from a birth defect. Basically what I am saying is that much of the hand techniques of Hapkido can be done if you have any disability. The same goes with Hwa Rang Do and Kuk Sul Kwan. So if you can find one of these schools or any that feels they are capable of teaching you then this will 1000 times better than asking a bunch of people over the internet and trying to translate and apply what you read. Good luck, God Speed.

I taught unarmed combat techniques while I was in the military as well. I can testify to everything being said. The one thing we did do was a few quick and desisive ground techniques just in case. Nothing that kept you on the ground for any amount of time but took care of buisness. I think you know what I mean. As for the last part of your post, This is something I try and instill in all of my students. Fact-O-the-matter is its the truth.

Ok. Everyone knocks on TKD quite a bit. I believe the reason is that most schools put so much emphasis on the sport aspect that training for real life self defense is hurt. What you have here is not just nothing more than a martial sport, but something the public and all non TKD practitioners alike see as nothing more than a non effenctive, out of date, useless waste of time, comparable to baseball nowadays. I am a Hapkido practicioner. We do most of the same things TKD does. I have also studied TKD myself, along with several other systems. Its not the techniques of TKD, for the most part. The problem is, is the training. When sport is put above self defense, high kicks are the primary focus of a primary attack or defense, and other tyspes of striking are neglected. This is when you are nothing more than an athlete. There was one other person that recieved ChoDan at the same time I did. He studied TKD for 20 years. He was increadably fast, accurate and powerfull with his feet. He could also use his hands. He knew when and how to use what kicks. The person one the street who started a fight with him would be in a world of sh!t. He was Asian and trained old school. The diference is all in the training. If you are trained for reality and practical street self-defense then reguardless of what system you studie you will be able to defend yourself and others when needed. Defending yourself from another MAist isnt the deciding factor of a good MAist. Lets face it guys and gals. How many times are you going to get into a fight with a true MAist let alone a good one. Hardly ever. Being a military bratt I have travled around the world. After Highschool I spent 10 years in the military, and 22 years studying the MA. I've come to realise that this is for the most part, how it is. Yes there are exceptions to everything. But even those are few and far between. So to answer the question originally asked. If your training is proper then I think that it will work for you in the street.

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Really guys, do any of you actually studie Hapkido. If not then I don't know how you are making an opinion on something you havn't trained in. If so then you need to re-evaluate your training. I have stugied many diferent styles, and Hapkido is one of the only ones other than Wing Chun that I have studied that I would classify as a combative style. Just becouse we stress control and proper use of force doesnt mean we are just an art. Hell we are not even a pretty system. The techniques you learn as a white belt are streat ready from day one if you were competant enough to use them. Traditional Hapkido is a combat art. Tested and proven. That is why a lot of people call it a traditional Korean combat martial art. Becouse thats what it is. As far as sparring, we spar are butts off. No we don't always use techniques when we spar, but then when I teach my students to spar I am first going to teach them how to fight period. How to strike, guard, move, look for openings, utilize those openings, how to use combinations, and how to use all kinds of strikes together from punches to kicks to ebows and knees ( wich we do a lot of ). In Hapkido there is no need to modify anything for street effectiveness and application. We just refine them to build upon them and make them MORE effective and MORE painfull.

MY PASSION IS MY STUDIES, AND MY STUDIES ARE MY PASSION. I study at a traditional school. My teacher doesn't go by how many years you study, but by how many hours you put in and proficiency of technique. I put in no less than 26 hours a week and know about 600 techniques, weapons, pressure points, pain points, and healing points. My teacher is a GM who studied under Choi and Ji, and says that this is hiw it is. I have been studieng the MA for 22 years now though. I have an extensive background in the MA already. Also, from what I have Been Told and reaserched in Traditional Hapkido, this is fairly universal. If you have ever read Mark Tedeshie's book is as wall says in there that if the average HKD student studied for 2 hours a day 5 days a week they can usualy get their 1st Dan in 18 months, and 2nd dan 18 months later. Also, we have no katas or forms in traditional HKD. I don't know aboutt KSW though. When we are ready my teacher tests us, and its not easy. But if you are ready and can perform then he awards you your belt. Its not about how long you pay you dues, its about how much you put into it and how much you can comprehend. For my GM its not about the money, its about the art. Hell he has a lot of people that owe him quite a bit. From my previous systems I do see where this makes more sense than keeping someone at a perticular rank when they are ready to move up, just becouse they have not spent years paying dues or studieng. Like I said, you get out of this exactly what you put in. If you come and play and no nothing much else he will keep taking your monthly dues, and you will never test. But if you come in putting hours of sweet, pain, and determination in a day you will get what you deserve out of it. As well, it may not seem like I have been studing very long, but I put 3 times the hours in during a one week time period than many people put in. And right now, for the past 2 months while I wait for my new job to start in March, I put in 11 hours a day. He opens at 10 and closes at 9pm. 8 years is a long time for 2nd. How many things have you learned. I only ask becouse I know that the 2 systems are supposed to be very simular. Do yall have Katas and forms you have to know for testing? I would asume like us you do have philosophy and history requirements.

All martial arts have their Pros and Cons. I have studied like 8 different arts and can say for sure that for me there is nothing like Hap Ki Do. We cover all ranges of fighting and many of the same weapons that most other Korean systems do. Plus if the instructor at the HKD school has studied additional weapons then he/she will probebly include them in the ciriculum. Most HKD systems are soft fluid systems but some people include more karate based techniques in their studies and teachings. Basically for a good all around art Hap Ki Do is next to none. It is proven self defense and can be controling, agressive, or even deadly.

It sounds to me like a typical family of over achievers. I could see maybe the physical thing, but a 5th degree 10 year old. Traditional training is one thing but 2-10 years of age? Very skeptical. But keep in mind that his teacher is also his father. As well we don't know what style he studies. Not much there on details. My question is , is this kid doing this becouse of his parents or does he really understand what is all going on and is doing it for himself. As for being a 5th degree at 10, how much does he understand technique, mentally, and moraly. Also, since his father is his teacher, is his standards the same as everyone elses or are they easier, lighter becouse of his money potential, than everyone elses. Hell, at this rate he will be a GM by the time he is 21. Even traditional Asian Maists that started in their early childhood didn't get their 5ths untill they were in their early 20s and GMs until they were in their mid 30s/40s. A 5th at 10 is seriously pushing it. Its this kinda stuff that makes the MA a joke and MAist a laughing stock. I think its all about this kids earning potential.

Traditional HKD strikes are not simular to TKD. TKD is a karate based art. Traditional HKD is Both soft and Hard style but primarily soft. Our techniques are fluid. There are no reverse punches in traditional HKD. Not Choi's or Ji's. If a HKD class is more hard and liner with a karate influance, then it is most likley a TKD based HKD and not traditional. If you were to go to a traditional School later it would be no different than starting a new style. We have this same situation in my dojang right now. Two people studied in Korea under an old student of my teacher. They got their black and red belts. The style there was TKD based. Hard and Liner, snapped kicks. For them everything is very different. My teacher studied under choi untill the day he died and still is under JI. So we have the influence of both systems of HKD. Neither one is Hard or linier. We stay very fluid and natural, ensuring that we do not snap our kicks to prevent anjury from hyper-extension as well as joint deterioration over time. Our kicks are just as quick and there is more power delivered from utilizing the body and not just the portion from the knee to the foot.

I think it is the honorable thing to do. But even if you didn't, look at it this way. What would a Civil Court say?

If its what you want to truly do and you have the money you make time to do it be sacraficing time spent on other things. TV is a great thing to sacrafice. If it is a money issue then you sacrafice the meneal things that are not so important to you and find the money. In the long run you do what you need to do to find a way to do the things you want to do.

Offer them a free beer. If they are to stupid to take a free beer and meet a new friend then I wouldnt waste a hit on him.

Simple. Brings in more money.

From a straight punch I love to come up with my elbow of the same side ( right punch, my right elbow ) rolling the tip into their forearm. A second later I simutaniously grabtheir right wrist with my right/ elbow hand and reach over and grad the wrist of their left hand with my left hand. I then pull my left hand in and push out with the right one ensuring to roll the left arm so the elbow locks out and breaks as the other person goes head over heals.

If you are worried about the other hand comming up and hitting you. Be quick and desisive. If you come in and strike hard and effectivly then the other hand is not going to be an issue. Especially if you hit in a place that causes a lot of pain. IE. pressure point/striking point, center of chest W/ elbow. Of course you dont just stay their either way. You srtike and move, fluidly.

2 of my favorites are: From say a right punch step to the inside blocking and trapping the inside of the wrist with the left hand and roll the right elbow into the center of the chest. From there I would probebly go into a wrist throw. Or after the block and trap I would bring the right elbow into the pressure point on the inside of the arm between the Bi and Tricep, followed with either an elbow or a back fist to the left side of the head, twist the right wrist down rolling against the knuckles and front kick to the nose. From there I would go into a wrist throw. After the wrist throw reguardless of the tech. I would go into a finish locking their elbow down with my shin. If they still resisted I would roll my bodyweight left and snap the elbow. That is if it was only one on one. Easier shown though. Also, very effective.

My favorite, becouse of its effectiveness, is the instep kick to the knee, or a low side kick to the knee.TIMBER//__...

My Gm has to go to Korea a week early so now I guess Jae is going to meet him up there. Kinda sucks. I guss I will meet him some other time.

Second Black. Gona Be tough But I'm Ready.