bushido_man96

Try doing the twist kick with the instep, as opposed to pulling the toes back. It works very nice this way, and it helps when it is done lower.

Yes, ps1, Ho Sin Sul is self-defense. I have seen schools that teach one-steps, which are required for self-defense, and then teach seperate self-defense techniques, which are not required for testings, but are practiced anyways. Why some TKD schools don't focus more on them, I don't know for sure. Many of the more sport-oriented schools will focus more on sparring, and less on the self-defense. Some schools will incorporate in Hapkido, and get self-defense that way.

Nice drill, ps1. Thanks for the props, too! (It makes me feel good to think that I actually know what I am talking about from time to time ).

That is an interesting video. Thanks for digging that up.

This is a good question, lordtariel, and a hard one to answer. Even the people who you might refer to as "professionals" still have to deal with this. There isn't a very high percentage of LEOs out there that have really actually had to dispatch somebody. When you compare the stats, to the number of LEOs employed, and the number that have actually had to take a life. I think that ps1 and USCMAAI made very good points in their posts, about being justified when using the techniques. Level of force has to be kept in mind. Here is a different scenario for you. My dad, when he was an LEO in a small Kansas town, had something very bad come down on him one night. Bad guy, with a gun pointed to my dad's head, at close range, and my dad with no weapon out. He had to talk the guy down, and he managed to do it. He lived with that pretty well afterwards. He told me that later on, he met up with that guy on the street, off-duty, and had a real heart-to-heart with that individual. That is definitely not a situation that I would ever want to be in. I don't know if it has anything to do with this thread, but it is something to think about. If someone is intent on killing you, do you really want to be the victim? Should you feel sorry for them? They won't to you.

That is a nice, thought, however, the grappler will probably be more skilled at taking someone to the ground than we (as in TKD people, you and me ) would be at defending the takedown. That is how Royce Gracie was able to dominate the early UFCs. Everyone thought that they could avoid the takedowns, but in the end, it all ended up the same way. You really have to spend some significant amount of time training against the grappling to get really good at defending it. Not to say it can't happen, though. However, knowing how to take someone down is the best defense against a takedown.

Well, kicking while you are on the ground can go into ground fighting...however, this is the phrase that threw me: That doesn't really sound like ground fighting, but more like kicking someone while they are on the ground. Not to say that you can't do it, but I don't think it is really classfied as ground fighting.

Training a batter of techniques like that is a good idea, in my opinion. However, when it comes to the "deadly" techniques, I think it is important to be able to perform them, but in the end, you have to be justified when you use them. As far as I know, the use of Martial Arts in self-defense is not considered to be the same as the use of a weapon. It would go down as battery, or possibly assault, in varying levels, depending on circumstances, etc.

Asking questions is a good thing. When you ask questions about techniques, either for application purposes, or how it is done, it shows that you are willing to learn, and like to learn. Just don't discouraged if they tell you to focus more on one thing when you ask to move onto the next. They will move you along if they fell you are ready. However, it never hurts to ask! I don't agree with this viewpoint at all, and it was probably a good thing that you changed directions. I am not sure that this is necessarily the case, when people ask questions about things. When it comes to clarifying how something is done, I think it is important to ask questions, to make sure you do it the proper way. I think that it shows a healthy willingness to grow in the Martial Arts.

It sounds like you have a great student there. Keep up the good work!

5-21-07 Chest/triceps: Bench press: 205x6, 215x4, 225x3 Incline bench: 135x8, 145x6, 155x3 Triceps push down: 105x8, 105x6, 105x6 Overhead triceps ext: 90x10, 90x8, 90x8 Abs: Roman chair: 2x15 Side raises: 3x25x25 lbs. Trunk twists w/45 lbs: 3x20 My body is sore today!! Prior to Hapkido, I did some bag work: 3 sets of 20 switching round kicks, and 3 sets of 20 alternating jump spin back kicks. Combat Hapkido from 3:45 - 4:45. I should probably come up for a different name for this section of my workouts, because we really do all kinds of different things, some related to tactics I would use at work. Anyway, we practiced some rear-leg takedowns, doing 3 different variations: the real leg sweep, the inner leg hook reap, and the good ol' hip throw. We also worked on manipulating passive/resistive subjects into arresting techniques, and worked on the block/pass/pin drill as well.

You can develop your kicking power with different training methods, such as weight lifting and plyometric exercises. Incidentally, what kind of kicks are you talking about learning? Could you give some examples?

That is a good point. That is why it is important to try to have someone around that can tell your side of the story. Even checking for bystanders that saw how everything started, and getting them to make statements, can help your case. Most likely, the two would be arrested. In court, though, you can make your case.

The important question, I think, is do you train to use these techniques properly, in case you need to. The other point the instructor has to make is to be justified in using these techniques. It also depends on what the attitude of the attacker is. Usually, you can tell when the two of you are squaring off outside of a bar...this is a fight. However, if you try to fight someone who is trying to kill you, you may be in for a rude awakening. Just seeing these moves in forms, or being told what they are for, is not really enough. You have to train to grab the hair, have someone wear goggles to go for their eyes. Loren Christensen recommended a drill where your partner lays on the ground, wearing goggles, and you place a peeled orange over their eyes. You procede to dig your fingers into the orange, while your partner kicks, screams, and thrashes about in mock pain.

Boy, she probably won't go dancing with you again!

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Point taken. However, the goal is differnt. The goal then was to kill/maim. Now, the goal is more or less based on surviving, in which neither of these has to happen. However, the same techniques can be used for both.

That is kind of cool, Rick. Thanks for sharing it.

Even if your opponent's miles away? These guys aren't rank amateurs and they're not WTF taekwondo competitors - they know what to do with their hands. Elwyn Hall wouldn't be duking it out with a guy in the street and trying to absorb blows into his forearm. It's bang, bang, bang and down they go. That's what karate's about. I would keep my hands up if they were a distance away, because I can still move them to use them, or just cover if I can't. When you get into combat, you don't rise to the occasion; you sink to the level of your training. That said, I train to keep my hands up.

I agree with you here 100%.

I would do a Google search to see what you can find. It isn't terribly popular in the states, from what I know, so it may be difficult. Good luck, though.

Thanks. I do what I can. I have seen several instances of the OODA loop, and if you get caught behind the 8 ball, it is very hard to catch up. Why wait?

Maybe it is just me, but the kihap is kind of more of an emphasis on certain techniques. I try to do all of my attacks strong, so that I have good power throughout.

I wouldn't worry about the ankle weights; you can still practice it without them.

I really don't think that these are what most people would consider "ground fighting" techniques. They are techinques done standing, while someone else is on the ground. Most practitioners' definitions of "ground fighting" techniques are going to be related to those of ground submission types of moves, like arm bars, leg locks, and chokes. Things like that, where both of the fighters are on the ground, or darn close to it, like kneeling.