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Moo Duk Kwon: founded by Hwang Kee. Established November 9, 1945. Kee claims to have begun his MA training with the arts of Taek Kyon and Subak, in secret; no master or teacher is mentioned in the article I read. Later on, 1936 or thereabouts, he studied Chinese Martial Arts. Originally calling his style Hwa Soo Do, he later renamed it Tang Soo Do. After reading in the Muye Dobo Tongi, Kee renamed his art Soo Bahk Do to reflect Korea's ancient MA heritage. The article gets intersting after this: Apparently, when the Korean government was attempting to unify the "resurrected" Martial Arts of the period (I assume this means the Kwans), some of the advanced members of the Korea Soo Bahk Do Association left and formed a distinct branch of the Moo Duk Kwon under the Korea Taekwondo Association. I wondered why there was Moo Duk Kwon TSD and Moo Duk Kwon TKD, and now I know why.

It was ok. I wasn't a huge fan, but I watched them. What they can do with a $100 million budget should be awesome.

Pretty cool. I wouldn't be caught dead with one, though.

$30,000!!! Are you kidding me! I don't think it is worth that much.

I have problems with my knees. I think that the main culprit is from my weight, though. Some days, my knees feel pretty good, and others, it just hurts to walk; forget about kicking. Sometimes I'll pop some ibuprofen, but I take glucosimine/chongroidant every day.

Definitely more water, Kez. I try not to drink too much pop, but I have been consuming more of it lately. That carbonation is just asking for reflux. Blander foods may help with the heartburn as well.

Man, I don't think I would be able to walk for a week after that!

The Wikipedia information is sited by some TKD organizations, so I have to view the information with some skepticism. I didn't see the sources for TKDTutor. I agree. TKD has no ancient origins. Now, that isn't saying that ancient Korea didn't have its own indigenous fighting styles; I am sure they did, as would any other country and civilization that has gone to war. It is wrong to attempt to extrapolate an art that isn't even 100 years old from ancient Korea. That is why I am focusing my searches on the Kwans, as opposed to anything relating to Taek Kyon or Su Bak. So is there any point in studying any history, then? Of course there is, because eventually, enough proof can probably work its way forward, and we can see the differences. This is happening in some spots with the studies that have been done with TKD. Hopefully, it continues to happen. I wonder, if the ITF and WTF merge, if anything relating to this will change? You have mentioned the differences in history between the WTF and the ITF, so I wonder.....

Last night at class, upon rechambering a round kick as fast as I could, I managed to tweak something in the area behind my right knee and near the upper calf. It doesn't feel good today, either.

I pay $40 per month, which gives my 3 classes per week at this poing, and also includes gym membership.

The only problem here is that we will end up seeing a recycling of Bruce Wayne; how many Bonds are there altogether? Are we on the 6th?

Has anyone seen Hellboy 2 yet? I liked the first one, and want to see the 2nd, and may get to this weekend. We'll see. Are there any other Dark Horse comics that could be run as a movie?

Saved by the Bell, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and whatever cartoons were running on the Disney Afternoon.

Thanks! It just popped in there...

Your points have merit, I think. I think that once you got past the finishing moves of Mortal Kombat, its not as deep as SF2 is. I never liked the juggle combos from MK, either. I liked the SF2 combos a bit better. The only thing I don't care for on SF2 is that it seems like you can't start a combo without a jumping move first.

Sounds great. Thanks for the tips. I think I can really take off with this Combat Hapkido stuff; I just need a chance and some students...7-23-08 Did some kicking over the back of a folding chair: Front leg front thrust kick: 2x5 on each leg. Front leg side kick: 2x5 on each leg. I really need some work on my balance. 7-24-08 TKD Class: 6:00 - 7:00. Class was tiring again tonight. During one-steps, I pulled a little something in my right leg, behind the knee/top of the calf muslce area. Don't feel to great right now. During sparring, I stuck mostly with hand techniques and moving around. I did a little kicking. Some of the 1st degrees got some kicks in on me though, so that was alright. Its good that the lower ranks can get in on you now and then. It is almost gratifying when one of them is using a technique that you showed them and worked with them on in class at one point, too.

I drink my fair share of coffee as well, Kez. Only I drink leaded...

I understand this. And I can understand why the Koreans had done what they did in propogating TKD. However, with this knowledge in mind, I think it is necessary to look around this, and find out as much as we can that is authentic information about TKD.

That makes a bit more sense. What is the source for your information concerning this, DWx? My main concern is where the proof is. When you look into the Chinese and Japanese styles, you can see evidence of when such things would have taken place. Within TKD, it doesn't seem to come to the forefront as much.

I think that this is great, and I would love to be able to reach such a level as well. It is amazing to see that individuals like Sauer can do this for those who ask; on the other side, you have to wonder how hard and how much he keeps working to be able to be that way. Where does he go for his questions, I wonder?

According to TKDTimes, Jan. 2008, Won Kuk Lee founded the Chung Do Kwan on September 15, 1944. The article notes that he received training in Shotokan Karate under Funakoshi at the age of 19. He also trained in Chinese and Okinawan styles while traveling. It appears that the Chung Do Kwan was labeled as Tang Soo Do.

There are several sections in Gen. Choi's encyclopedia that lead into the discussion of the history of TKD. He makes allusions to the ever-popular knights of ancient Korea, Hwa Rang(do). In the section, he denounces the Bodhidharma myth, but then turns around and attempts to propogate the idea that some of the Korean fighting styles may have been exported to Japan. Choi also makes a statement about an ancient school of warriors referred to as the Yoo Sul school could be familiar with what is now Jujitsu was known under the name of Soo Bak-gi or Taek Kyon. However, I fail to see how if Soo Bak-gi is familiarized as Taek Kyon, which was known to be a kicking game, and how it could be related to Jujitsu. There just seems to be too many variables here; too many inconsistencies.

Referring back to the TKD Historical Appraisal article, the author does end up alluding to the Bodhidharma myth, which is very undocumented in and of itself. However, he also alludes to Alexander the Great's conquests as far as India, and his army's practice of Pankration, and a possible connection to some of the Oriental styles.

It looks funny, but its a renter for me.

I used to collect football cards. I also got into Magic, the Gathering for a while, and I still love it, but I don't have many people to play with, and it can get quite expensive. I guess now, I collect books.