bushido_man96

I think that most of it has to do with the lack of some of the bunkai teachings that many receive. Not everyone agrees with what Abernethy teaches, and that is ok. But, not everyone is shown these ideas, and therefore, can usually only pass on what they themselves have been shown.

I see it this way. The Goju dojo will offer you an outlet to still work somewhat on your Shotokan. Working with some of the students after class or before class will let you focus on Shotokan stuff, and how it relates to Goju. In the end, it may not mess it up, but augment it. As for Aikido, it sounds like you already have a predisposition against it, so perhaps it isn't the route for you to go. There is no sense in training somewhere you won't enjoy it.

Well, I have made up my mind after attending the Aikido seminar this last weekend that I am going to start attending the Saturday morning class that is held at the university here. This will be my first new experience in a Martial Art class since 1993! The Combat Hapkido came along as a supplement to our TKD classes orginally, so it had a familiar feel to it. The Aikido sessions will be a whole new experience, even a different language! I look forward to this new experience, and to what it can bring to the training I already have. I can't wait to expand my knowledge even further!

Welcome to KF!

Hehe, I will have to try that.

I don't think I would either, Patrick. Cool info, though.

Yes, very cool. Thanks.

Hey, its a good thing, but don't sprain your arm patting yourself on the back . Learn from it, and try to repeat it. Then, pat yourself on the back! Good job, by the way.

Best of luck to you! I am sure you will do well.

I agree, tallgeese. If they sanction it, then they can more readily regulate it. It depends on how much longer they really want those revenues to go to other states, I guess.

Maybe it was gakun. I didn't hear it too well. Yes, it was a seminar, and it was my first experience with Aikido. But, it won't be my last! 9-16-08 At the park, from the book Tae Kwon Do: Attacking techniques Back leg front kick, reverse punch: 10 on each side. Back leg fient front kick, back leg round kick: 10 each side. Step forward, back leg round kick, reverse punch: 10 each side. I seemed to have problems with connecting a good punch after the kicks. I was trying to drive it, but it just didn't feel like much. Perhaps it was from punching air, but I'm not sure. I'll try in on a kicking shield sometime, too. 9-17-08 Open workout at the school: 6:30 - 7:30. I did all of my black belt forms; Yoo Sin x3, Se Jong, Gae Baek, Poe Eun, and Kwang Gae hyungs. Stretched afterwards, and then did some Combat Hapkido. We worked on the yellow belt material, and then did some trapping drills. After trapping drills, we worked some of them into the yellow belt techniques. It was a bit choppy, but we can get better.

When I'm finished sweeping the house.......it falls down.....

I agree, Iceman, especially after what went on in the 2008 Olympics. It may be for the better, though.

Ah, I see. In the ITF style of TKD, the forms have some similarities to some Shotokan forms, but are different still. So, there is even more evolution.

From a frontal posture, I think you could work it into a good sweeping kick. You can really hook that knee with it, after coming up with a crafty entry technique.

This is how I have read it, as well. The word is he didn't stick with Shotokan for terribly long, but he is know for his foray into the wilderness, where he reportedly did knuckle push-ups on rocks by the thousands every day, and then kicked and punched trees thousands of times each day. It was quite a deal, his excursion. Part of why he was so stocky, and could punch through brick walls.

Its unfortunate, but it has been the trend of many 1st generation KMA masters (after the occupations ending) to take that route...Can't say I blame them, the Japanese did some pretty bad things to Korea, and Korean culture in general...So there is/was some bitterness to that end. This just makes it MUCH harder to do good, coherent research though... This is pretty much the case with many Korean MAs, when you attempt to read the histories of the likes of TKD, attempts are made to link the art to ancient styles like SuBak and Taek Kyon, when there really isn't anything to link to. TKD has mostly Shotokan origins, with some Chinese influences, depending on the Kwan, and Hapkido has Daito Ryu origins.

I love two person work. Working with scenarios is a great time, and one of the most realistic ways to train, in my opinion.

Thanks for the expanation, Dobbersky. I appreciate it.

I think that this is a good training focus, for that moment when combat begins. After that, training the Boxing guard, like what tallgeese mentions, is one of the better ways to cover, in my opinion.

Ok, the title is a bit clumsy, but I want all comers in here to discuss it, so I just made up a style. The idea pegs from a piece of a quote made by unkownstyle in the Sweeps thread on page 3: I think this brings up an interesting concept. It is easy to see in MMA that each fighter has an individual style. Likewise, Bruce Lee stated the same idea. But, can't we translate this to any style of MA, regardless? I do TKD, a primarily kicking art. I do kick quite a bit, but I don't count it as my strength. I like to get in and punch a lot, and then kick in close as they back away. I don't jump much any more either, but some TKDers do. So, in your style of MA, what "styles" do you see pop up between fellow students and competitors?

I do know bits of Japanse, just not too many of the techniques names. I know Rei is bow, Seiza is the sitting on knees posture, and a few basic things. As for what the basics were called, I really couldn't catch the name. I will this Saturday, though!

My style, which pretty well corresponds to DWx's, has a set of tenets that are supposed to be viewed as the way we should carry ourselves in society as well as class. I wouldn't say that I have molded myself to these tenets, though, because my folks pretty much raised me to do things the way the tenets flow. Its just a coincidence that my parents raised me to follow rules similar to the tenets. Or, it isn't a coincidence, as the tenets are just about the kinds of things that you expect upstanding citizens to adhere to. As far as anything religious goes, I have my beliefs, and I live by them. MA training fits into them well. Nothing really hard and fast, though.

I think you are right on top of it here, tallgeese. I had an "empty your cup" moment at the Aikido seminar I attended last weekend. I went in with my prior knowledge, and even had to stop myself from my natural TKD tendencies (which was my "it hits all by itself moment" ). But, what I had to do, was try not to do my natural TKD/Hapkido stuff, and just do things the way the Sensei was showing us to do it. This worked surprisingly well for me, too. I still used my Hapkido knowledge of wrist cranking and joint locking, etc., to work on some of the locks and stuff, but with the new Tai Sabaki and such, emptying my cup was the only way to go. Man, I'm getting all spiritual and stuff....

This is true. However, what made the difference was the training methods that Kano introduced in his Judo. He made randori a full-on event, more like Wrestling is, stripping away the stuff that couldn't be done full speed, and focusing on the throws, pins, and locks that can submit an opponent, but allow him to get up and randori again. It wasn't really that the Judo was better than the Jujitsu, but the training methodology made the acquisition and use of Judo skills quicker to attain while being more realistic.