bushido_man96

Bouncing is not bad, but it needs to be controlled. It helps with initiating movements, and "keeps you on your toes" so to speak. Some people bounce too high, and it can be a problem.

In the end, what seperates Boxing, Wrestling, and Pankration, is a rule set more than anything else. Basically, that is what ends up seperating all Martial Arts...its the rule sets they abide by. Because everyone is different. If I never throw a high kick, does that mean I am not TKD? If I choose not to practice forms anymore, but still train on my own what I have learned from TKD, aside from the forms, am I no longer TKD? I don't think so. Its just that I have found a way to do my TKD training without the forms. Take, for example, what Iain Abernethy does with his training. Whether you like what he does or not, would you say he is not doing Karate? I'd say he still is. He just does it differently. Granted, kata is a BIG part of what he does, but it is the opposite of what I am getting at. He adds a lot more to kata training than what most schools would do as far as applications go, but I think I make my point here. One could take away the kata/forms training, do only the applications, and still accomplish the same goals of the style.

This is a valid point, but it also harkens back to the times when a master took on perhaps one or two students. Pretty limited training there, but it did produce some great MAists. Fair point. But given the option of training with a group of people or training with one person I'd pick the group. I agree. But, as seen with the OP, group training isn't an option.

How do you know the influx is due to the movie? Have you asked the new students what made them join? If it is the case, then the movie has done some good.

Hopefully for you, Marshall leaves all the prima dona stuff in Denver, and focuses on football in Miami. I'm sure he'll be on a short leash with Parcells.

Cool. The only time I ever did it was with a Game Genie code. SORELY disappointed afterwards.

I'd say build your core. That will be best. Other than that, the core is a more tender area, and just defending it well, along with the core work, will help.

Hehe... The Gen 4s come with changeable grips, one that is smaller that you could try. I will let you know how practice goes with them.

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

Nice explanation, Bob. Its different than we do our down blocks, but I see the reasoning here.

I'd say one of the best ways to be able to defend against a Wrestler is to learn some Wrestling or other form of ground fighting to counter it. Know your enemy... There is one thing about the title that bothers me...the title tends to lean in the direction of describing Wrestling as something other than a Martial Art, which I think is wrong. Wrestling is very much a Martial Art, and confronting any practitioner should be taken very seriously. Sorry, got on my soapbox there.

I am not really willing to buy into this. I think that Kihon, Kata, and Kumite have all been together for so long that they are always associated with each being equal part and parcel of what is Karate. The same can be said of TKD. However, just because it is done that way, doesn't mean that it can't be done a different way, and still be Karate, or TKD, or whatever. For example, throws used to be a part of Boxing. However, it has evolved over time, and the throws are gone, and the specialization is in striking with the hands, footwork, head movement/defense, etc. Its still Boxing, though. Is it less than what it once was? It could be argued that it is. This can be said for more styles than Boxing, though, too. Just my thoughts. You could argue that but... This is a good point, but it doesn't mean that training methods can't change. TKD is usually singled out from other styles for its emphasis on kicking high and a lot, as opposed to its use of forms in training. Also, think of this: there was a time when math was done without calculators. Calculators make the abacus obsolete. Slide rules don't get used much anymore. Does that mean we aren't still doing math? Nope. We just do it differently. For some reason, the only thing that isn't allowed to be able to change and evolve in its methods is the Martial Arts. Its like sacrilege. I think that there is still a different in the fighting methods and styles. Muay Thai is known more for its contact levels than TKD is, but that is limited to competition style for the most part. It doesn't mean that a TKDer can't fight like Muay Thai and vise versa. Iain Abernethy has done some research on the old Boxing and has referenced the throws in some of his books. As far as Ancient Greece goes, Hellenic Boxing did not allow throws, but Pankration did. There were three fight games in the ancient Olympics, Hellenic Boxing, Hellenic Wrestling (which didn't allow the striking), and the Pankration. However, it was not uncommon for one fighter to be able to compete in all three events...if he could survive them all.

This is a valid point, but it also harkens back to the times when a master took on perhaps one or two students. Pretty limited training there, but it did produce some great MAists.

Good summation, ps1. I've read similar history in one of Helio's BJJ books. Very interesting to see how each evolved.

The google search will help you get headed in the right direction. At least you have addresses and names of places to check out. So starts the process of elimination. Many organizations, like the ATA or Shotokan orgs, will likely have point sparring available to you, but other schools are likely to offer it, too.

Very much so!

OK folks, its that time again...time to revive this ageless thread and talk FOOTBALL!!! How's your team look so far? Mine, not so good yet. No wins in preseason, which is irksome. Cassel looked better in the second preseason game, and Charles was great. But, what will the O line be like? Are you ready for some football!!!! :D:D

Ah, good stuff, Joe!

Range time = good time. We just got our Gen 4 Glocks in, and will be qualifying with them soon. Can't wait.

I'm confused about the "increasing combo" part. What do you mean by that?

I am not really willing to buy into this. I think that Kihon, Kata, and Kumite have all been together for so long that they are always associated with each being equal part and parcel of what is Karate. The same can be said of TKD. However, just because it is done that way, doesn't mean that it can't be done a different way, and still be Karate, or TKD, or whatever. For example, throws used to be a part of Boxing. However, it has evolved over time, and the throws are gone, and the specialization is in striking with the hands, footwork, head movement/defense, etc. Its still Boxing, though. Is it less than what it once was? It could be argued that it is. This can be said for more styles than Boxing, though, too. Just my thoughts.

I've practiced them on the bags, but not used them in sparring. When I started Combat Hapkido, the emphasis on kicks was that they be low-line kicks, which is great. In Combat Hapkido, almost all the kicks I do are below the waist, and my favorite is the round kick to the thigh. And I love using the shin.

This is a nice thread. I will have to dig in here...

If you don't have much experience already, learning on line will be really tough. I won't say it can't be done, because anything is possible, even though many Martial Artists have a hard time accepting the idea of using our current technology to learn ancient fighting styles. The main problem that will come of learning this way is the lack of feedback from a qualified instructor. This can lead to bad habits being reinforced early and often, which is never a good thing. Its also hard to tell if you are doing something wrong if you aren't sure how to do it right in the first place. With that all said, I won't say it isn't possible. But, I do think it would be the longer road to hoe.

With my very, very, VERY limited knowledge of any grappling, I can really appreciate this statement. In fact, it kind of helps simplify things, at least in theory, when it comes to grappling. I am not good at it, and I do realize that grappling is the single biggest hole I have in my MA knowledge. This helps to kind of put being in guard into perspective for me, and if I think of it this way when I train, maybe it will help in the long run. Thanks, guys.