bushido_man96

Its going to depend on the mechanical breakdown of the techniques. ITF TKD doesn't usually match up with Shotokan technique, due to the sine wave motion. But, some TKD schools focus more on using the hips to generate power, much like Shotokan. I will add this: in my years in TKD, I have never seen the side snap kick. So I'd say that's one Shotokan technique not preserved in TKD.

I've seen schools that held off sparring for a few ranks, and I've seen schools start sparring from the first day. If the instructor is good, then sparring from day one won't hurt a student. If anything, at least they start to learn how to move in conjunction with another trying to move in and out and strike them.

I had not thought much about throwing the punch beer mug down, but when it was mentioned that way for more range, I started thinking about it. I'll have to work that on the bag some, and see how it feels. I've thrown it both horizontal and vertical, but only on the bags. Anymore, I don't worry about trying to generate any kind of wrist rotation, and worry more about power generation from the feet and hips, so I throw it beer mug up more often now. Thanks for the idea on beer mug down. I guess I won't know until I try it.

I think that is more of an individual philosophical take than a hard and fast rule. I think a soldier is viewed more as a member of a fighting unit, whereas the warrior may not necessarily be associated with a unit. I could be wrong, too.

That would be a nice mix. Its hard to see that Boxing clinch without those big gloves on, but when I visualize it without those gloves, I do see lots of possibilities arise.

Nice. Drunken Monkey, eh? You've got all kinds of styles out there... If I get to do a sparring class at my school anytime soon, I'll keep in mind different strategies, like side kicking and spin heels, round kicks and using more angles, etc. Lots of good stuff possible. Thanks!

I'm not so sure its the style that is being trained in, but rather its important that the stylist evaluates the techniques they know, and determine the proper strategy and tactics to use from what they know when facing multiple opponents. I do agree with you that many styles do concern themselves more with training one-on-one, and not multiples. I also think that there is a different mindset to multiple opponent training. I don't think its as realistic to train multiples with the mindset of finishing them off, like it would be in one-on-one competition. Instead, it would be more ideal to train to get as many of the opponents in a line as possible, using tactics to make space, committing attacks to the first/closest in line in a very violent and determined manner, and then using your escape route you've been searching for all along.

And I'd say that's a good reason to start off with the first punch. Why give the guy a chance to establish some confidence?

The thing with this video is that you can probably find a video along these lines put out by someone from nearly every style out there. When styles tout there stuff, they like for it to look good. They don't want potential customers to walk away doubting anything about it. I'm not saying this guy isn't good. What I am saying is that this was pretty much a demo video, and it did what it is supposed to do.

Very nice. I think it would be a great training idea. It was also cool to see the two different styles, between the takedowns and clinching first, and the punching second. I suppose you could even set other parameters for varying types of work; like declaring one person would attempt to close and clinch and the other would be assigned to punch and clear out, or other such criteria. I like the ideas possible. One thing to keep in mind, though, just as a precaution, is to not bring too many dice to the training session, lest a D&D session break out. Oh, what fun they were....yeah, I'm a nerd, too.

I'd bet that was the case, for sure. I can see where some instructors would want to have some basic level of fitness, that way they don't have to worry about students keeping up with the rest of the class in some aspects. I can see the pros and cons of having such a requirement.

Really? Strange. I think this is the problem with many people's mentalities. Self defense should be do prevent someone from hurting you. This does not, by necessity, mean that you will have to hurt them.I'm not sure if it is a mentality problem or not. What I do think is that sometimes people that might have to defend themselves let the thought of having to hurt someone get to them, and then aren't able to defend themselves successfully because of the restraint. When it does come time to use force, its important to committ to the goal.

Welcome aboard! The belt in your profile changes as you post more. Look forward to seeing you around!

Welcome to the Forums, Big Daddy!

Hey, you're sure welcome! Thanks for posting the videos. I tell you what, that Mr. Utah keeps making the rounds here, that's for sure.

I've been in a class with our organization's GM, but I didn't get that worked up over it. I just listen and do what he says. Its a nice change up for sure.

Yeah, I'd say it was HKD. Bong Soo Han, who was a HKD grandmaster for many years, and I believe the choreographer of the fight scenes in the movie Billy Jack, was known for his kicking ability as well. The cover of one of his books is of him doing a round kick straight up in the air. I think you see this a lot in Korean HKD schools, with lots of kicking along with the joint locks. However, I don't think there is any ground grappling involved, which was painfully obvious from the fight you show here. I'm surprised the guy went to the ground on his own in the last match, trying to kick Rorion from the ground. That just allowed Rorion to skip a step. We don't do much high kicking in the Combat Hapkido system, and if we do, its more from personal preference due to other training than to the Combat Hapkido system. CH focuses more on low line kicking for distractions.

However, not every "warrior" would have had hands like that. Remember that "warrors" originally used weapons primarily. I'm not saying that calloused knuckles or Iron Palm training aren't worthwhile, but I don't think it is as necessary an aspect of the overall training of a Martial Artist. I do think the mindset and knowledge of how to apply the physical skills is a more important part. But that's just me.

The RedMan suit was a good start, and it sounds like the Blauer suit is what technology has advanced to. I've seen the RedMan suit in use, and although the attacker can't move much, it does allow the defender to throw with full power and see how the force affects the target. I would love to see the Blauer suit.

We don't have any discussion during basics. The most that shows up is when doing one-steps or self-defense.

Don't feel bad, Danielle. I end up going that route in most of my matches, too. I'd work things in class, and then when I'd get to a tournament, I would never take the chance to implement any of what I had trained. I do have some video of one of my ATA tourneys where I did win some matches, and I think took first place. Its from several years back, late '90s, I think. But I'm not too proud; lots of hands hanging down, and it is point sparring. If I can ever get them switched to DVD, I'll see what I can do to get them uploaded.

No, its not a game. But with the proper approach and use of equipment, it is very doable. Is it possible to do it 100% every time? Maybe not. But is it possible to add enough degrees of realism to get as close to the real deal as possible? Sure it is. It may mean that at times you have to take some precautions into consideration; this may mean uping the contact levels but restraining some targets. It may mean wearing goggles to allow simulation of eye gouging. Maybe when grappling, if you get the chance, you can add a zerbert to simulate a bite (it may sound goofy, but it might be worth considering). The point is though, it is possible to do. I agree that 100% full on contact to any available target without protection is not very viable. Its the extreme. Forms training is the other extreme at the opposite end of the spectrum. There is a happy medium in the middle.

I'm with you there. I'm only 5'8" myself, on a good day. I also run about 250 lbs thanks to my voratious appetite and an inability to turn any free food down. But hey, its just rude to not eat what's offered to you.

Nice, Montana. I would love to see it done.

Yeah, its something like that. I was using it more as a guide, or a reference point, for him to see where it is when he doesn't bring his hand back to defend. Now, if I can get one of the padded bats or some nerf toy, I'll train him a bit more "earnestly...."