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RIP.

Well done!

2/8/2013 Worked Wrestling with Kendall for 10 minutes. From referee's position, worked on t-out, hooking arm and riding ankle to inside cradle. Stance work and take downs as well. 2/10/2013 Sit-ups: 3x10 4-direction kick: worked a few variations, seeing what flows. Did 4 sets, using fighting stance/guarding blocks, and front kicks.

Actually it sort of ran the opposite as to the number of rounds. Until the MQ rules became popular rounds were often of variable length with each lasting until a knock down was scored. Unless the fight had a predetermined number of rounds they lasted until a man was downed and couldn't come to the mark in the given time, most commonly one minute. Some famous fights went into the triple digits. I agree, us Kyokushin guys tend to fight without gloves and I've not known of anyone breaking their hands. We even do 100 man kumite and that's continuous as in no breaks Punching to the head changes that, though. Bare knuckle Boxing wouldn't have had the number of head shots that we see in today's bouts. More body blows, and don't forget that throwing was allowed in bouts, as well.

I'm not too hot on my dates but had sine wave been introduced at this point? That's a good question, I'm sure someone could come back with the answer Gillis states in A Killing Art that Choi and Oyama met around 1967-68, and that the sine wave was developed sometime in the early 1980s. I've read the entire 15 volume collection of Encyclopedia of Taekwon-do, and he gives the same equations on force that I've seen elsewhere in MA writings on the subject of force. He also talks of reactionary force. The sine wave mentioned isn't the same sine wave I see in YouTube videos. Nor do I see the TKD way of doing things as more relaxed than the way Shotokan or Kyokushin stylists do their basic and forms work, either.

I haven't seen anything on the forms. I wasn't sure if he did something new, or used ITF patterns.

I've wondered a few times, myself. Thanks for the support, guys!Another tournament this past week, the Oakley Invitational on 2/9/2013. The Oakley tournament was our first tournament back from injury last year, and 2nd tournament of the year, and Kendall didn't have great memories of it, so getting his mind in the right place was priority one. Kendall showed me how resilient he can be this week. There were a total of 4 in the bracket, ranging in weight from 67-73, and they were all kids he competed against before. First match was a win by pin in the first round. He shot a good take down, and took care of the rest from there. Second match went the distance, but Kendall was able to win by points, and he earned enough at the end of the round that they tallied it as a technical fall, score of 18-3. It was his 2nd tech fall win of the year. The kid he wrestled was a really tough one to keep on his back, and the way he squirmed and fought reminded me of how Kendall was last year, squirming and fighting just to not get pinned. It turns out there was a bit of shove he gave Kendall after the match in frustration, but I missed it between looking at scores and videoing the match. The kids dad caught me afterwards and apologized, and wasn't sure why at the time, but we talked and I told him not to worry about it too much, as kids have a tough time controlling their emotions at times. He and Kendall shook hands, and that was the end of it. His parents ended up pulling him for the remainder of the matches, though. Third match was against who is quickly becoming our nemesis, the taller kid that wrestles the 73# bracket. The kid is taller and strong, and last week Kendall tried to muscle and stand up tall with the kid, and it didn't get him very far. So this week I preached and preached getting low and shooting take downs. It paid off, too. Again, it was a tough battle, and it went all the way to the end, but Kendall was able to bounce back from last week and win this week, 16-13. The dad of the other kid in the bracket talked with me while we were waiting on getting medals, and he smiled and said my son was "pretty salty," and he really had fun watching that last match. Now back to practice! I've been told there is a 6 and under only state tournament in Salina, KS in a few weeks, and there would be as many as 50 in a bracket for him to wrestle! We are seriously considering it, to get some different competition, and see how he does against some of the best at his age. I think it would be a good experience for him.

Indeed. I fully agree with this. Akin to, "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth." I think Mike Tyson said something along those lines.

Thanks, guys.

Thanks for the thoughts and opinions so far, everyone. Great input!

I have always done variations of the second version, along with break falls, which do make noise.

Here are a few of his matches so far this year: This one was the first match we had with the big kid that slammed him, after the slamming incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpN8VzFEAyo&list=HL1360299574 Here is one at another tourney, the following week, against same kid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mikHsUVKMHk&list=PLon1GNgZPzV7auEhp4xObbl6WkFdGZrEQ&index=3 Will work to get some more up for you guys!

Sounds like a fun class, JCavin. I probably would have puked after the burpees. Tallgeese, sorry about the shoulder. Mine still hurts from surgery. 2/6/2013 Solo workout at home. Yoo Sin Se Jong Ge Baek x2 Po Eun x2 Kwang Gae x2 Do-Kang 1 Do-Kang 2 Repeat round kicks, mid/hi x10 (20 total kicks). Repeat round kicks, hi/mid x10 (20 total kicks). Stretch

Un Yong Kim may not have had any MA experience, but he did surround himself with some knowledgeable MAists to put together the WTF, which brought in a lot of former ITF masters, if I recall. As for all the "science" behind the moves in the Encyclopedia, I think there can be some argument there. TKD's parent art is Shotokan, and there were lots of similarities in the moves prior to sine wave usage. Choi did make a lot of changes in how to move in ITF forms, I think mainly to make it look different from Shotokan and to distance himself from that. I don't blame him for that, and I don't think its wrong that he did it. Nor do I think there is any more sound science behind the movements of ITF TKD and the movements of other styles, like Shotokan, WTF, Capoeira, or other styles.

That is the set that the ITF uses but there a lot of non-ITF groups who will also study them. This the association? http://www.world-taekwondo.com Seems to be affiliated with the Kukkiwon so WTF? Anyway good luck with your TKD journey Glad you found a good school. Seems we have a bit of a mystery here then. JCavin will have to keep us posted!

I never thought of it this way, but that is an excellent point, and one I'll remember now. Especially the 4 direction kicking. That'll work great in the basement where I practice at home. Thanks, Danielle!

I learn in sequence combinations. So for me, understanding how one technique sets up the next is important in why the form is put together the way it is.

I believe there is truth to this. I can't remember which kata it is that has the 3 backwards jumps in it to make it end on the same spot, but I fail to see any practicality involved with the maneuver, and it seems pointless to do it just to get it back to the same spot.

I found the same list in Encyclopedia of Taekwon-do, vol 1, pp 154-155. And I understand this, as well. Gen. Choi did design the forms to be such that they did start and end in the same spot. I don't know how or why the changes came around for the way we do these forms (although I have some suspicions...), but the footwork differences don't always allow for us to end on up the same spot. I've watched a lot of ITF patterns on YouTube, and I see this rhythm in the way they do it. We don't use those rhythms, but tend to make more combinations, and the forms tend to flow faster in general. But, I think that this standard can hold true for any type of rhythm, so long as it seems logical. You nailed it here. Like I said, I think I looked too far into the semantics, and you really cleared this up for me. Spot on.

Zoodles, thank you thank you for chiming in! Love the videos. This one is great at showing the finesse of longsword. This is the half-swording that I've never really seen, but read about. Thank you for this one. Lots of similar techniques that I've seen in Combat Hapkido and CQC techniques. These were great! Lots of similarities I see in Wrestling. Thanks again, Zoodles! Lastly, here's a video I stumbled across, showing some sparring between bokken and longsword. It doesn't really show one guy whipping the other. You see two guys with some pretty similar skill levels having a pretty even match. It appears to me that both guys get some good techniques in.

Being OK based, Bob, you might have some luck in finding some ARMA study groups near you. I'd do a search and look around; universities tend to be a place to check, but there are others, as well. Right. They were both well trained in great combative systems, and both types of weapons were well made. The two were more equal than most people realize.

Thanks for the thoughts, Bob.

Congrats, and well deserved!

Sounds like you did well, and its great that you come out of testing with a new rank, as well as ideas of what you want to improve on, and how to do so. Very nice job, and congrats! Thanks for sharing this experience with us.

I had never heard of Saju Jirugi, Saju Makgi or Saju Tulgi until I got the TKD Encyclopedia set by Gen. Choi. Does you school use them for teaching white belts? Do you find any advantages over using just Chon Ji for teaching the basics and turning?