bushido_man96

Full contact, bare knuckle face contact, all the time?

Yeah, I see everyone's point on the "honor" or "warrior" mindset, etc. Although I think a warrior would show respect to an opponent by fighting him with everything he has; if he doesn't, then he doesn't respect his ability as a fellow warrior....but that's a topic for another thread. My point is this: everyone says the guy that tapped for the good of the outclassed fighter did the right thing. Then didn't the outclassed fighter do the wrong thing? Everyone seems to think that the good fighter here did the honorable thing. That would lead me to believe that the outclassed fighter did the dishonorable thing. He should have realized he would be defeated, nay, nearly killed, by this guy, and should have tapped out himself.

I plan on doing videos on that also.. Cool, I can't wait to see them!

How much is too much? When you aren't spending time with your spouse. When you would rather miss your child's activities for training. When it becomes work instead of enjoyment. That's when it becomes too much. Also, when you overtrain your body and it can't recover. That's too much, too.

Make different arrangements for getting home. Find a ride with someone, take a different path. Wait an extra half hour before you start off, do something different. Let someone at school know what's going on, and see if they can offer any help. All these options will be better than a 5 on 5 confrontation. In a situation like this, there are too many variables. Someone might bring a weapon, or they all might. Its not worth it. Also, what Patrick points out is a very good point. If two groups of 5 or 6 get together to fight, it isn't self-defense. Its a mutual combat, a brawl, and all parties are guilty. Where I'm from, if I came onto a brawl like that, at the very least all parties would get arrested and charged with disorderly conduct at the least, and dependind on what kind of damage gets done, charges like battery or aggravated battery (a felony) could come forth, as well. No one will win.

The studies comparing the sword and buckler to the sword and shield were informative, too. The nature of the buckler not covering as much area, and requiring a more active defense, was obvious in the stats.

6/16/2014 TKD class: 6:00 - 7:30 pm. Pre-class warmup: Dynamic side kick stretches, low, mid, hi, x9 each, on both sides. BL front kicks: 5 each side BL side kicks: 5 each side BL round kicks: 5 each side BL inside crescent kicks: 5 each side BL outside crescent kicks: 5 each side Class: taught tonight. Basics were improvised, adding a kick in with the basics going back the other way, either a front, side, or round kick, with the kick sometimes starting with the front leg, and then they set it down behind, so they had to think a little, and work some different movements. Also, added in the hook kick, and did the punch, front kick, punch, round kick combo. Forms, since there were only students, we did Yul Gok, Joong Gun (both blue belt forms), Toi Gye, and Hwa Rang (both brown belt forms). Next was one-steps, followed by a few rounds of sparring. The kids paired off together, and the teenagers together for the first round, then switched them for a rest for the teenagers, then put them back together. Not a bad night for only 4 students. 6/17/2014 Aikido: (and Kendall did Wrestling) 8:45 - 10:00 am. I did 300, but made it 350... Shikko: 31 runs (equal to 10 at the hombu) Push-ups: 25, sets of 10,10,5 Sit-ups: 50, sets of 15,10,10,10,5 Jo strikes: downward with squat, 50 Forward rolls: 50 Backward rolls: 50 Forward breakfalls: 50 Getting up in base: 50, after each breakfall. Kendall worked on his "duck walk" for shooting, did stand-ups on both sides, did switches on both sides, 5 of each (I tried to coax more out of him; the idea of repetitions eludes him still), some stance work, walking and running and staying low, sprawling, and he did several sets of wall sits. Overall, not bad for an 8 year old with no attention span. Stretched out a bit.

I hadn't pictured the round kick in my head, but it makes sense, too. Thank you guys.

Both good suggestions, and I can't add anything to it. Practice kicking a concrete wall, very lightly, and getting the toes into position. It should be a slow kick that let's you see how to form your foot to make proper contact.

ps1, Alex, Bob, thank you so much for the replies and insight. Very informative. I agree with you here. There is nothing subjective about a choke-out.

I watched the brief video they had on their home page. It looks like flailing, but in actuality, I think they have a concept there of moving and covering as opposed to trying to figure what attack is coming and stopping it. Not sure, though. Also, the "flow drill" always seems to be with one guy going forward and another going backward. And no one tried to clinch. The "ground fighting" was interesting. Not everyone can break dance like that, and I could see the point behind it, but I don't think I care for it. I think an experienced grappler could probably work their way through that and establish control. As for the idea behind concepts based training, I think that is probably one of the better points of their training, and I'd like to see some more of it. If I ever decide to look it up on youtube, maybe something will make more sense. Now, for the Native American Wrestling claims. I've heard of this before, but not much. I've seen a few "claims" of in regards to know it, but I've never seen more than that. I'm not sure how much of it is actually out there. I'm sure there was something at one time, but no one comes out and claims it, and you don't hear about who learned it from whom. That doesn't mean its not there, though. But on the other side of that coin, with all that is out there in the grappling realm, it probably doesn't offer a whole lot of anything new. At any rate, thanks for sharing this. They have some interesting approaches, and I'd love to hear other thoughts and experiences anyone may have had with it.

That's interesting. A navy blue belt? Like a sub-blue belt, or something? When I went for the certification on the GRACIE DT system, there was a blue belt there with us, taking the class. No way could I do much of anything with that guy. I'm not sure how much someone can pick up and do in a weekend seminar. Aside from that, how do they, or do they even, go about promoting or learning knew stuff? Is this a BJJ guy that went sideways, off on his own, or is he still affliated with a school somewhere? I'm not interested in the name, just the circumstances here.

Spartacus: yes, I think that was it.

I'll tell you this, getting the government involved in MA regulation would be a nightmare. Government regulation isn't the answer to everything, and you wouldn't have MA experts involved in government regulation, you'd have (here it comes) more politicians involved. Which still wouldn't fix the problem. Then you get lobbyists involved, and then that means favors likely start happening, and it just gets uglier from there. I think for the time being, the status quo of how MA schools are run is fine. Sure, there will be the ugly ones that show up from time to time. But, for the most part, people will eventually see the light, and move on.

Thats' so great! Keep us posted on this!

Just to clarify on this form, at 1:16, from that slow circular punch, left leg side kick, to the left, knee level, followed by U-shaped punch. Draw it back, and then at 1:19 to 1:20, a right leg knee level side kick to the same location, followed by the U-shaped punch. At 1:40, at the nine-shaped blocks, I turn to my back to the second one, not to the front.

Is the use of the toe as the attacking tool limiting the type of kick done to an upward style front kick? Or do you have some other options?

Thanks for the insight here, tallgeese. I'd say you are spot on. With the points you made in mind, what do you prefer? Would you rather see the ground battles of old played out, or do you prefer to see the fighters stood back up, to give a more exciting fight?

What is the sparring like?

This brings up a few points for me. 1. If the guy is teaching a "BJJ Class," then he probably should wear an appropriate rank. If he is mixing things in class for TKD students, then I wouldn't worry about it so much. If I decide to teach some of the DT that I have learned in GRACIE in my TKD class, I won't be changing belts. Like I mentioned earlier, though, if I am teaching outside of my regular class setting with my students, I would probably do just casual workout clothing, no-gi stuff. 2. What is this weekend certification seminar? Who puts it on, and what does it entail? Also, is this coming out of the BJJ community, and is it supported by the BJJ community? Some want to bang on a TKD guy for teaching it with his belt on, but what are these seminars telling them, and how do they promote it?

/pedantic mode on The broadsword is a 17th century basket hilted weapon. Any wounds in this study caused by swords would have been caused by longswords, arming swords falchions and Messers. Please note..they are not at all cumbersome, but are extremely agile, and on an inch per inch basis, lighter than Japanese swords. a longsword is 48 inches long, and between 2.5 to 3.5 pounds. Not to rage at anyone, but we folks in the WMA spend a great deal of time working to undo several centuries worth of stereotyping and incorrect information spread by enlightenment era fencing masters and victorian era historians /pedantic mode off I am not surprised at the wound distribution. The fightbooks tell us to strike for the head and torso. I agree with you, Zoodles. Many are led to believe that the European versions of swords were unweildy, and only clanged against other swords with them. Just not the case. I liked reading this study, and seeing how the author used groups of historical researches of combat to correlate the findings. Very good stuff.

Welcome to KF!

Hi, I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know the exact answer to this. I chose the school because I really really like the instructor, he's great teaching me and my kids, and we have a blast each and very class. The bottom of my last certificate says World Tae Kwon Do Federation...does that answer the question? This is obviously something that I need to get smart on. Sounds like WTF to me. That is a good question, Danielle. I'd love to know, but I've never asked him about it. From what I can gather, and this is just from what I've picked up on, he must have done WTF at one time (whether it was before the current pattern set, or the pal gwe set, I don't know), and when he left Korea, he changed to the ITF set, but I'm not sure when/how he learned them. As for examples, I can give a few real quick, and more when I have time. In Yoo Sin, when you do the U-shaped punches, we do a knee level side kick prior to each one. In Choong Jang, instead of the middle block/down blocks at the beginning, followed by the circle punch, we do nine blocks, and then slowly come into the fist over fist ready position. Like I say, wish I knew why. My instructor has said that our GM claims that "Choi didn't necessarily make those forms..." and doesn't say anymore. I know that Choi had input from other instructors in the creation of his tuls, but I don't know what my GM is really getting at.

Thanks for sharing this, Danielle. We have a kid in our school that wants to seriously look into Olympic-style competition. I will likely be directing him to this site, too.

This looks like it would be a fun read: http://www.amazon.com/When-We-Were-Bouncers-Athletes-ebook/dp/B00KVPUN6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402417044&sr=8-1&keywords=When+We+Were+Bouncers When We Were Bouncers, by Paul Lazenby. I think this book would be chock full of entertaining stories from all kinds of great Martial Artists.