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12/17/2014 Wrestling: working with Kendall. We worked on a pummeling drill from the sit-out position, basically Kendall hand-fighting so that he can either force an arm to come over the top, or to capture a wrist, plant the hand, and come out to that side by circling around for a reversal. Once he would circle out, he would hit on a straight arm bar by putting pressure on the elbow with his chest. So we worked that into the drill, focusing on keeping heavy pressure to get reversal points and then work to control. We also did some sets of push-ups and wall-sits. TKD Class: Taught class from 6:00 - 7:00 pm. Reviewed forms, hitting all the colored belt forms. I got to do them alongside, so I got some work in, too. I like this class set-up, because I can really take some time to break some things down and work on technical aspects, and even some applications. For Dan Gun hyung, I broke down the down block/high block segment, really having the students focus on completing the first move, and setting up the second move without rushing into it, but still making it a combination. For Won Hyo hyung, we spent time breaking down the upset knife hand strikes at the beginning and in the middle of the form, focusing on coming across with the attack, and not from underneath, and also focusing on the withdrawing, or "hikite" hand, and its purpose. I did 10 forms total, and those that were lower ranked repeated, so I think each form they knew they did at least 3 times. After forms, I had them reviewing one-steps, and we took time to work on our white belt #3 one-step, of which the essential attack is a knife hand strike to the neck, which is done while seizing and pulling in the punching hand of the attacker. I put stress on striking out and withdrawing the other hand at the same time, just like the move is done in basics. I think this helped them out, and hopefully they look at the basic technique a different way from now on.

This is a very cool thread! Thanks for all the links to the variations here, and the comments that accompany. Its cool to see the differences in style, stance, and even technical execution of the same form.

Thanks for sharing this article, Alex. Great response, and I learned something reading through this.

I don't think this means that you finish after 6 months. I think it means more along the lines that you become proficient in it within 6 months. But that doesn't mean you stop training. But I do agree with what tallgeese mentions about the use of a style like BJJ in LE. Its a very valuable skill set to have. If a good BJJ school isn't available, then you might look into Wrestling.

I'm in the Korean styles, for the most part.

Sounds like a good read, Bob. Thank you for the review.

I noticed that, too. I really liked it, to be honest, except for the part through the middle where he went to the walking stances and the inside blocks. The turns looked unnatural to me. Thanks, Bob! I'm glad you are enjoying the exchange. I invite all the Karatekas, or other practitioners, to bring in some commentary!

If I ever do, we will come look you up, for sure! You could probably help me out a lot with sparring...its my weak spot, for sure. You mention the way the pacing is laid out for the tempo of the forms. I guess in our association we are allowed a bit more personal interpretation. But, we don't have the sine wave motion to add in, so it changes the dynamic of what we can do with the moves, as well. His sine wave isn't nearly as pronounced. I really liked watching his form a lot better than the others I find.

This is a good analogy.

yes I'm using two hands,,im using a slight angle to cut into the power point of the kick. Are you angling into the kick, or away from the kick? Typically, I angle away from the kick, so I have room for a counter.I'm angling slightly away from the kick. Thank you. It was kind of hard for me to tell from the video.

sorry for the later reply.My internet went down for a few weeks.. You start within the first month of training depending on how fast you pick up the basics. That's cool. I'm of the opinion that applications training should start very early in training, and continue to be refined from then on.

Welcome to KF!

Thank for the review. It sounds like a very interesting book. I enjoy reading anecdotal things, and to hear about the experiences of others in their training. Definitely worth looking into.

The Cowboys are still rolling along. Are you keeping track of how many carries Demarco Murray has so far this season? If he breaches the 400 mark, then I hope for your sake they win the Super Bowl this year. Four hundred carry seasons tend to be the last good ones for running backs. KC is up and down, and they just can't stay consistent on offence. I'd like to see the wide receivers involved more, and Travis Kelce, too. They should have beat Arizona, and now they have to scratch and claw their way to get into the playoffs.

We did not watch the same movie....

I don't say it contributes to power. There are claims that sine wave does contribute power, but in my opinion it has to come from the more natural sine wave motion that happens when moving in a natural motion.I did say the guy in the video had good power, but not necessarily as a result of the sine wave.

Nice review. The few times I've used a half guard has been to try to just hold on and keep the other guy from getting into a better position. I just don't know what to do from there.

Yikes, that looked painful!

He makes a lot of great points, especially about being able to navigate while on the ground. Its not just as easy as "get back up." There is also something to be said about doing something because you enjoy it.

News here from the MMA Underground: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/449196/Fitch-Le-and-Quarry-named-as-plaintiffs-in-class-action-suit/ Cung Le, Jon Fitch, and Nate Quarry are fighters named in a class-action suit being filed against the UFC. From the article: What do you think? Do they have a case? Is the UFC curbing the ability for other promotions to compete? Or have they just done such a good job of branding and getting out there that everyone else has to play catch-up? If you'd like to read the 63 page demand for a jury trial, you can find it here: http://www.cohenmilstein.com/media/pnc/5/media.1675.pdf

Not too long ago, the UFC announced a deal with Reebok to become the official clothing sponsor of the UFC. On the heels of this announcement, Reebok has announced partnerships with Ronda Rousey and Jon Jones: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/449203/Reebook-announces-partnership-with-Jones--Rousey It appears they will offer insight on training apparel and equipment, along with footwear. I'm interested to see the fighters' thoughts on this.

Here's an interesting story: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/mickey-rourkes-boxing-opponent-admits-to-taking-a-dive-for-dollar15000/ar-BBgSm6F?ocid=LENDHP I didn't even know this fight took place. Now, one side is claiming a fix, and the other is not. I'm not sure if either side can prove their story, and I am not really sure that I care, either. Was anyone else aware of this fight? Did anyone see it? Did anyone think the fix was on?

I agree that this is really a good place to start from. Lately, I've been trying to share a little bit of form knowledge with them, what the name means, and all that. I shared it with them on the white belt form, and now I have them asking me what their form means, too. Its good to keep them thinking. For all of our black belt testing candidates, we have them write a one page essay, typed, answering questions about what TKD means to them, and what their goals are after grading for black belt. We also have to submit essays for each dan grade after to the Grand Master for testing. I submitted my 4th dan testing paper as an article here.

You are right in that it has changed a lot over the years. But a lot of this is due to context I think. How do you make Taekwon-Do look different from and be "better" than Karate (and Kukkiwon TKD)? Introduce this movement called sine wave. It seems many people went the route of bigger being better without fully understanding why. Now it's becoming more and more refined and we are told to tone down the movement and pull it back to something more useful rather than something that is just different. I often wonder if sine wave isn't (in some places) taken to an extreme that it was never meant to go. Something meant to be a way to demonstrate how power is generated taken to a sometimes comical extreme. I've seen (again, in some places) people trying to put sine wave in where it seems odd, awkward and out of place. Almost as if sine wave itself is the technique, instead of the kick, punch or block. This is a very good point, and at times when I watch ITF forms, I get that feeling, as well.Here's another version of Do San that I have saved to my playlists: This guy has pretty good power, but lots more sine wave, especially in the punches. In my opinion, they take way to long to set up, and the sine wave, the way it is done here, presents a huge telegraph. The sine wave also stymies combinations in the forms. When I do this form, at the beginning, its outside block, then a slight pull-back of the hip, and then punch. Then a quick adjustment step to the other side, we call it stepping "one line to two lines," and then boom, we're off. Also, the two punches after the wedging blocks and front kick are a quick combination, no pause to set up the sine wave.

HU Lee's goals in creating his form system was to emphasize kicking more, since TKD was known as a kicking style, so he began to implement more kicking into the forms from early on. These jump front kicks that we've seen so far in the ATA forms are a jump front kick that the students in our school do in orientation and every day in basics. And through the first four forms, we've seen the basic kicks of front, round, and side, with some variants. With diligent practice in class, the students pick up on the kicking techniques like they do the hand techniques. It really goes pretty smoothly, I think. We do the movement with the arms crossed in front, much like you do. I chose this link because he doesn't do the sine wave. I do like this one, as well! Nice find, thanks for sharing that here. Yes, you also noted the difference in rank between when you do this form and when we do it. I'm guessing you would already be doing this form, but we have Bo Chung added in between Dan Gun and Do San. That's the one. Thanks again, Danielle! I'm glad that we can really take the time to break these down a bit and look into them more. I'd love to see some more thoughts from some WTF/Kukki stylists, as well.