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But if the second matrix was true that would be a very illogical thing for perfectionist machines to do. Why would they fake drill to Zion and kill everyone when they could simply just pull the plug? If they can't handle the first matrix and are tricked into believing they are free in a second matrix why don't the machines just turn them off when they get annoying, instead of going through this big fiasco? That's my qualm about the second matrix theory. It just doesn't make sense. The Architect told Neo that the One was an anomaly and gave him two scenarios and two choices. 1 save zion and start over with 16+8. 2. every human eats it and the machines are able to accept the losses. Neo chose to fight the system. I think that's because the Architect was bluffing. I think Neo, through some means, has developed an ability outside the Matrix. The Architect did say that Neo was special, but inherently human so there would be things he could not understand. But, that statement also alluded to Neo having a greater connection to the machines. So, maybe Neo has the ability to affect Machines in the real world. However, I don't think he alone could fight 250,000 sentinels. I think the 3rd installment will resolve itself in not one part being wholly victorious over the other, but finding a harmonious co-existence. At least, such an ending was alluded to in the engineering area of Zion when speaking with the councilor. But, who can say? Also, if there was a second matrix it would incredibly hard to resolve in one movie the wasted story line of the first two. I mean they went through all this trouble to find Neo, free him, then to learn it was only a second matrix... Well, all good theories. It's a good flick. Looking forward patiently for the third.

Pretty well rounded response, MG. A good answer too.

That's nasty, but good motivation to make sure you win in good standing.

Muay Thai Fighter, Yes, I do make a distinct difference between a martial artist and an athlete. Whether that definition fits into your world doesn't matter. I can see that it does not. But, our views of what makes a martial artist is not what's at hand here. So, I don't see how anything more can be said about it. You feel the athletes in the ring are martial artists, I don't think of them as such. Contest and survival are two different things for me. That's my opinion on the subject. I won't get into this. It's childish to sit there and claim so and so can beat you up, etc, etc. You don't know me, MuayThaiFighter. You know nothing about me except what I want you to know about me. We'll just leave it at that. About the people who speak against the athletes in the ring. Perhaps you are right about most of them, but you are wrong to make such an assumption about me. But, I don't feel like wasting too many words over the subject. Fighting isn't a sport in my book, but I've already discussed that. Onto something new. We're not going anywhere with this. It doesn't need to turn into a shouting match or another "I'm right, you're wrong, stop beating up my idols." thread. I won't be responding after this. I have said what I feel to be sufficient on my position. Do with it what you will. SevenStar, Well, what you said about getting in the ring hinges on the definition I carry for a martial artist. I do not think that a martial artist would have any business in a ring. BUT, that's wholly my opinion of a martial artist. I never said that you should follow my mode of thinking. I merely shared my view of the subject. Real working knowledge and training suffice much more sufficiently that getting in a ring and fighting in a controlled environment. Part of that training is fighting, but not in a ring for contest or sport. That's the distinction I make. Those that fight in the ring are not doing it to become better martial artists, they're doing it to win, to promote, or to prove something either to themselves or to the rest of world. My training has been real enough to allow me to survive life-threatening situations here in the US and in the jungles of the Philippines. I didn't need to get into a ring to prove it to myself. (Besides, what I did to save my life couldn't really be done in a ring). About the m16, the example is flawed. Think of the analogy. Shooting an m16 in combat is not the same as fighting in a contest. I don't have much love for TMA, read any of my past posts, (The Martial Arts in combative arts and ART vs ART?!?! in comparative). I'm not their advocator, or defender. If it is the TMAists that do the most trash talking then, yes, perhaps they should stop. But, I don't care about ego fights. Same reason I don't care for sanctioned NHB sport events. And, YES, anyone who competes in a sporting contest is crossed of my list as a real martial artist. Roll your eyes, but that's a matter of opinion. I don't belittle you because of your opinion. Nor do I mock your opinion. If you don't like my opinion then let it go in one ear and out the other. It won't matter to me. Wrong. The difference is I don't seek out venues for proving to others what I am capable of. I have done such and that is sufficient enough for me. I didn't need to prove it to myself. The difference is need. I did not seek out the fights in which I did prove my ability. I didn't need to. I don't want to find any more. And after the event I wasn't much different. I didn't suddenly cry out, "WOW! It worked! Yippy! I guess I was learning something real!" I didn't have to declare such because I already knew such...even without getting in a ring to prove it to myself or anyone else. Imagine that. Documentation? I can't document anything. Then again, what would it prove? That I did something? What does that matter? All that matters is if I can do something when needed. And I don't need to get into a ring and play a game to tell me whether I can or can't. Even if I never did those things I did, I still wouldn't be trying to get into a ring to say to myself, "I've got to prove it." Well, it is all really a personal issue. It is in the core of the person to discover their reasons for doing things. I'm not attacking your reasons for doing what you do. I'm sharing mine for doing what I do and believing the way I do. This isn't a "I'm right, you're wrong." topic. It shouldn't be. It won't be. I've said more than enough to clearly define why I believe what I believe, and why I post such. If I can't post something for fear of it not "fitting" in with the crowd, then what's the point of communal learning? Our opinions most likely won't match up perfectly on every single subject. Neither will our beliefs about why something should be a certain way or not. We take it personally, or shrug it off. Whether we believe that person or not isn't a matter of conversion. If you agree, good. If not, good. If you want to share why not, even better. But name calling(there hasn't been, this is in general) rudeness, &c. don't have a place in the exchange of ideals. I guess I have said my peace. There's nothing really more to say, so I won't. Keep striving for whatever goals you have set. We all need to reach for something higher, to keep pushing ourselves towards perfection, and to reach the greater goal. MA.

Agree with Andrew Green, tactics and ability.

So then you view the martial arts as a sport? Here I must agree that we disagree. If you train in the martial arts for sports then you are an athlete. Micheal Jordan played for what reasons? I guess he can only answer that, but I can guess that among other reasons it was for fame, money, and to prove he was the best. Which is the point in sports. There is a winner and a loser. There are points and trophies. Micheal Jordan and Lennox Lewis have nothing to do with what I am saying. Like I said, they did it for reasons alien to true martial artists. As for Mas Oyama, the japanese are well known for not taking offenses or challenges to anything domestic lightly. I'm not arguing pro-TMA. I don't really care what is said about TMA being effective, &c. I'm saying those who are studying the martial arts and not some sport will not find themselves in a ring, because they don't care what other people think about them. They don't need publicity, fame, fortune, good advertising, or to prove to themselves that, hey! they can win a contest, because these things are worthless to someone who is out to become a martial artist. All that matters is the crucial moment when your life depends on it. You train and train and hope that day never comes. You are a martial artist because you take the defense of your own life into your hands and put that responsibility into no one eles's. You are not a martial artist because you want to go into a ring and beat chests against other martial artist so you can, Lo and behold! I'm better than you! My martial art is better than yours! Haha!! Look at me! I can fight!! C'mon! Tell me I'm a good fighter. And as for some people talk and others like to back their talk up, that's the useless drivel of an adolescent mind. Only fools want to prove they're tougher than someone else, not martial artists. You want tough contests go back to secondary school. Martial artists are striving for something higher than that, something more personal and much, much more powerful than simply being able to defeat other people trying to boost their egoes in a ring. Do I think Royce Gracie fought anyone of respectable skill? No. How can I say that? Because I saw those fights. I have been in fights across this vast rock of a planet and I can say those fights were ridiculous to the point of school children jumping on each other and fighting. I don't care if you don't agree with that. I know enough that we don't see eye to eye about certain things. I'm not here to even try to preach to you or even convince you of what I'm saying. So, whether you agree with me or not, is irrelevant. Now, do I think real martial artists of skill will ever participate in a NHB fight? No. Because it's not upon their path for martial perfection. Contests of skill prove nothing. So what if you can beat up a bunch of guys in the ring. All I care about is doing it when it counts for life or death. I am more than confident I can do such. I have proven such and am alive because of it. So, I don't need someone claiming that what they watch on TV is gospel, because frankly, gospel it is not. Then again, I guess it doesn't matter, does it? Because, ol' Royce and all the other NHB guys are in the ring showing off and I'm not. I guess that makes me something less of a fighter, then? Or maybe it means that what I do doesn't somehow really work? Wow! I guess then I should go back to every fight I have been in here in the US and in the jungles of the Philippines and look them over and say, "You know what, TJS is right. Royce knew his sh!t. Boy, was I wrong! Boy, I don't anything about the martial arts unless I compete in a contest." Well, it doesn't matter, really it doesn't. You won't see it my way, and I definitely don't see it yours. But, for me, that's fine. I'm not trying to preach "Follow me!" nor am I trying to convert you to my way of thinking. But I guess that's something you won't see about me. Perhaps you think I'm a stylist? Or a TMAist? Or even a MMAist? How about none? I'm a simple martial artist. I'll let you figure that out for yourself. MA. Forgive the ramblings of a lost soul...

You don't honestly think that all the good martial artists are wasting their time trying to prove to the world how good they are in a ring, do you? Only those who have something to prove, some reason for fame enter that ring. I don't think that a real representative from a TMA will ever compete in a NHB event. I just don't think they will ever have to. What will it prove? That, lo and behold!, their art is better than yours? I don't think they really care about that. I don't. I'm not a TMAist in any way. In fact, my personal opinions are not pro-TMA. (I have written two articles about this The Martial Arts in Combative Arts forum and Art vs Art ?!?!?! in comparative arts) But, I don't think for one moment having traveled much o' this hunk o' rock that the real martial artists are the roosters in the c*ockfight. Why would they be? I'm sure they'd rather be out training and progressing as a martial artist than trying to beat their chest in a ring to show who's got the bigger pair of jacobs. Then again, I don't know much about a great many things. MA.

This just gets more interesting the more I read. I wonder if you are saying that if it isn't in the UFC or any other NHB competition that the art is suddenly rendered useless, out the door, trash in the can, fodder for the herd? Because, seriously, you can't be serious about making such a statement, can you? I mean, honestly, let's think about this. Only the good martial artists compete and win? Only the good martial arts are in the ring? By the heavens, I never knew. I'm going out on a limb here by assuming that's what you meant. I may end up making an a$$ out of myself, but nevertheless I will also end up making a good point regardless. What makes you think that only the good stuff is found in the octagon? What have you seen that tells you only the best martial artists compete in the rings? Or that only the best martial arts are found in the NHB competitions? This is going to be difficult to explain, but as with most things on the interent, take it with a grain of salt. I don't fight in NHB competitions. Never have and most certainly never will. I don't need to. Why would a martial artist fight in a contest? To whom am I trying to prove something? I know what I can do. I know what I can't do. I know how effective my techniques are. I don't need to get into a ring to prove those things to myself or anyone else. I most certainly do not need anyone to tell me how good a fighter I am or how great a martial artist I have become. My self-esteem isn't that weak. I know why I train. I train for combat. I train for the moment I hope never comes: the fight. I train to win in that moment. Everything I do is to win the fight. I don't train to get into a ring and show off. That's not why I train. I don't train to get into a ring just "to prove it to myself". I have survived fights. I have won fights. I don't need a trophy to tell me such. I don't need a magazine carrying an article with my picture in it. I don't need money from schools. I am a martial artist. Plain and simple. I train to fight and I fight to win. Contests of strength and who's got the bigger biceps are utterly meaningless to me. That's not why I am a martial arist. MA.

I haven't ever posted much not related to martial arts, but I thought I'd give this a try. For those that have seen the second Matrix what are your theories about how the third will play out? We now know the ONE is a controled anomaly and that Zion has been destroyed 5 times previous. We know that the ONE is also just another form of control the machines have over the humans. Agent Smith is inside the mind of a freed-human and causing havoc. Neo took the path that will supposedly lead to the destruction of every human being. Then, the movie ends with Neo taking out 5 sentinels with some sort of power--outside the Matrix. Anybody want to share ideas on what they think?

I've "won" a fight with an open hand strike. But it wasn't a contest of sport. If someone hits you and your immediate response it simply to start punching and kicking like a mad machine then you need better training. Otherwise, you're just wasting energy. Your understanding of range is a bit funny. How could someone get close enough to punch you, but not have the same distance to finger strike you? If someone comes at me full speed what's the difference between opening my hand or closing it? If I successfully block the attack and strike what will prevent me from simply opening my hand or closing it? Again you need to review range. I could waste bandwidth all day and simply say that I have effectively used open hand strikes with just as much efficacy as a closed fist. But what will that prove? You won't believe it anyways. Besides, for all you know I could just be lying. I mean, this is the internet. People can hide really easily behind a keyboard. MA

Hmm, I've kept out of this for a while just because it really is just one guy promoting his new system to help himself feel better about taking it. But, I've got to say something. The first thing I've got to say is: I don't care who you are 6-12mo. of training in an open hand martial art is nothing compared to 4-5years or more. I don't care what "system" of martial art you are taking if you are lead to believe that in 6mo. you will be an "effective" fighting "machine" then you are simply being sold. And about your method of fighting. You are one arrogant person. You assume that the person you will be fighting is going to be some mindless twit that can't fathom moving or defending himself because he doesn't do pankration. I'm not a defender of styles or systems (just look up any of my past posts--those that know me also know this), but I will speak out against bs. I did some research on Pankration and the sites I got information from claim Pankration is a sport, designed for a ringed environment. Here are two sites I visited: https://www.pankration.com https://www.chez.com/pancrace/ Both of these give clear pictures of the history and future of Pankration. It seems to me to clearly be a NHB orientated system. I think that if you want to start beating chests you should have at least chose a real combat art instead of an old olympic-class sport like Pankration. (Just because they fought to the death, sometimes, doesn't mean they did so effectively or efficiently. Illegal street fights in the Philippines fight to the death, those guys aren't the best fighters. They have weak technique, form, etc. But they're fighting people of the same caliber. The real martial artists don't fight there--mainly because they're not involved with the mob--because why would they? Same reason I don't compete in NHB. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I don't train for sport or trophy. I know what I'm capable of and that's fine for me. I don't need anyone else telling me how good I am or what a great fighter I am. My self-esteem isn't that weak. Perhaps, you should look deeper into what a martial art is. It is combat centered, thus called martial, but it's an art, meaning it does something more for the personal than merely puffing up your pride. MA

Welcome.

I can say movies had no influence on me. In fact, I was doing martial arts before I even knew what movies, television, and entertainment were. Been doing martial arts for a long, long time (in my life that is). ::EDIT:: Fixed grammatical error.

That's why you have belts...to keep your pants up.

Youkoso e Karateforums!

I practice everyday at home for several hours. (2-4) a day. Of course, there is the occasional day I don't get to train due to travel, obligations, busy with work, but on average I train at least 2-4 hours everyday at home.

I don't recommend using pain killers before training. I don't recommend any altering drugs before training. When it comes to pain you can ignore it. And you can get used to it. The mind can be a very powerful thing. Through focus and practice you can achieve a level of "pain-ignorance"(ie where you ignore pain and function normally). This can happen instantly. I have received a few deep cuts in my life. (Spear, sword, machete) In all cases the pain was controllable instantly. I was already in the latter years of my training so the pain response was almost reflexive. I didn't feel pain. I continued doing what was necessary until I could find medical attention. Again, I do not recommend "numbing" your mind through artificial pain killers.

Legitimacy issues? What's that? Either you know your stuff at a blackbelt level or you don't. A rank or certificate isn't going to fight your fights. You are. Affiliation, legitimacy, certification, mean nothing if what you're learning is real.

Again, welcome.

A good laugh. Nothing spectacular, but enjoyable. I rate it as one of the top B-Class movies out there. If you're not looking for award winning material but want a funny action movie then the Transporter is a good view.

Hey no probs. I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way. I wasn't trying to start anything. I happen to be fluent in Tagalog and Ilocano(A dialect in Northern Luzon). I lived in the Philippines for several years teaching martial arts and working with provincial law enforcement. If you ever need information about the Philippine Islands go ahead and ask. I love the country and love talking about it. MA

You forgot an 'n' in your original post. Pananadata doesn't have a meaning. 'Pan' is a filipino conjugation for a word to give an expansive meaning. Sandata means weapon. Pansandata would mean "pertaining to weapons", and pananandata means something akin to "weaponry or things dealing with weapons" MA

Look for your state's Dept. of Public Safety Webpage. Ask for a copy of State statutes, or if they have a list for you on a state/city web page.

I didn't. My father taught me since I was a kid. It's all I've known. On a funny note I thought that everyone knew martial arts when I was a kid. I thought that it was a normal part of life until I got into my first fight at school and the kid couldn't punch well and cried when I bloodied his nose. The shock to me was great, I was like "WOW! Why are you crying?" It wasn't even that much of a punch. But, I didn't choose. My art chose me through the acts of my father.

I don't know the answer to that question, but you should ask it under the Health forum.