Bitseach

I understand the view that the towers should be rebuilt as an act of defiance and have some sympathy for that view - after all I have lived with the reality of coping with terrorism all my life as a citizen of Northern Ireland(!!) and know intimately that terrorists win by propagating terror and abnormality to the society they attack. However I do not think - think, not feel - that a mass grave should be built upon. That isn't an irrational response at all (and I'm trying hard not to feel patronised by the suggestion ), it's about having due respect for the dead and especially those that died for others. It's the same reason why the trenches in Northern France have not been built upon, and why Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen have not been built upon for commercial reasons - it would be a sacrilege, even worse than the ar5eholes who dishonour the war memorial in Battery Park by trying to flog fake sunglasses there (about ten or more such leeches, by my count). On a lighter note, do you live in Manhatten? Wasn't it HOT there recently? I couldn't bear the heat or pollution in Manhattan itself - it was like being in a blast furnace!

I have to note that most of the yobbish MCPs have been posting from the UK. SHAME!!!

Hi all. It's mainly because the bones are still in growth and most growth occurs at the ends of bone - the epiphyses - just underneath the bulbous shaped bits at each end. Heavy loading from weight training can damage these bone ends which can cause inflammation, avulsion at the joint, and PAIN! Look up Osgood-Shlatter's disease to see why you should be careful about this, ad! (and you, nonpuritan!)

Look, here you go, a quick cartoon demo of the sequence: http://www.yogasite.com/sunsalute.htm

The "Hindu" press-up looks very like part of the yoga "sun salutation" sequence - could this be how they got their name, or am I completely on the wrong track here?

Agree apart from knuckle press-ups, which shouldn't be done (unless you're keen to end up with crippled hands) If it's bruising that's a problem too, ice the areas after your training (reduces swelling and therefore pain and reduces the chance of scar tissue, unless that's what you want!) and rub Arnica ointment onto bruises to speed their disposal (you can usually get this cream from pharmacies or health food type places). I know that some people condition their shins by biffing them gently with sticks and then building this up so that they can take harder knocks (does it actually increase bone density locally, Kickchick??) so I guess you could do this with your forearm bones, though I've not tried this technique and so cannot recommend it personally.

I've just come back from a trip to the USA from UK and felt groggy the whole time I was there and am now groggy and can't sleep now that I'm home again. I don't see how I can be jet-lagged when I didn't adjust properly to American time in the first place but it seems to have happened! I therefore sympathise but can offer no advice!

I thought a troll was something that sat under a bridge and threatened to eat the three billy-goats gruff. Or am I mistaken?

Calling someone crazy or mentally imbalanced does not mean that one hates them!! Besides many comments made with tongue firmly placed in cheek. I tried to denote this by smilies etc, but you've chosen to ignore these and to take offence. [shrugs] your choice! Now put the knife down, buddy, back off and try blinking. Uh-oh, his eye's twitching oddly now....better get me coat.

I'm a legend in my own lunchtime...

I don't think they still do but years ago they noticed once that a lot of women from a clock-making factory in Canada were getting mouth and tongue cancers and discovered that they were all involved in painting the glowing bits onto the clocks made in the factory. The tongue cancers were due to the women licking their paint-brushes to a point so that their work was neater! Weird, eh? Anyway, some have suggested ball lightning, but most people reckon that the crop circles are done by hoaxers, even the elaborate ones. Often the fields contain some areas where the tractor has been upon which hoaxers can gain access without leaving too many footprints before making the patterns by trampling or crushing using ropes, sticks, people, etc. (or perhaps they can all pole-vault?!)

Steady on now! It seemed more like a question than a criticism! However, on a point of information, "gay" is seldom used as a pejorative term and was originated by gay people themselves. Homophobes tend to use other terms, SOME of which have now been "reclaimed" (but that is only really acceptable within the community in the same way that young black men have reclaimed a certain word for each other that will NEVER pass my lips or fingers!) In fact a lot of homophobes resent the fact the the word gay was used by gay people to describe themselves. They tend to grumble about "losing" the word in the meaning of "happy" or in describing a bright colour! The origins of the word's use in the present context are unclear but, somewhat surprisingly, go back at least as far as the 1950s in Britain and may have started as part of the "double-speak" used by homosexuals at that time - called "parlare" - to speak about gay matters without being arrested, as homosexuality was illegal in the UK until 1967. (The word is used in "The Kenneth Williams Diaries" in the context of homosexuality.) Some other words that the censor will probably pick up on are still used in the UK in legitimate conversation: There is still a Yorkshire expression, "there's nowt so qu33r as folk" which just means, "people can be strange", or "well I never". A d_y_k_e is something in the Netherlands used in securing polders from the sea and is also used in Northern England (though I suspect less so nowadays) referring to dry-stone walls as "dry-stain dykes". In Britain the word "f a g" is a commonly used slang word for a cigarette and believe it or not, a "f a g g o t" is a funny sort of elongated meatball, as well as a name for a piece of wood (although these latter two words' usages are being replaced by the American pejorative meaning, sadly). No judgement implied here as I am all for respectful language, just thought this might interest some of you!

Er I think you'll find he said having children, not adopting them. Prince of the Universe? Huh? What you on? Aaaanyhoo... Most child abusers are parents of the children they abuse, stranger abuse is relatively rare. Also, FYI, around 80% of cases of infanticide are committed by victim's parent or parents. Sick, isn't it? In fact the transatlantic paedophile ring that was broken a few days ago in the USA and UK involved parents who were abusing their children, filming it, sending those images to others who sent their own children's abuse pics in reply. I know it's getting a bit off topic now, as all the "people" involved in this were straight, but honestly, some people shouldn't be allowed to breed at all!

The UK has supported the USA in many of its hare-brained (hair-brained?) schemes but we were quick to lend support after 11/9/01, which was right and proper. There is rather more opposition however to any invasion of Iraq without a lot more evidence of direct attack from there on the UK/USA/Allies. Just because we don't like a country does not mean we can go invading it, even if that country is run by a murderous scrote.

Nothing should be built there but a memorial park. Yes, I know that the ground rent in that part of Manhattan is monstrous but one shouldn't put commerce above the fact that this is a mass grave, even a war grave. It would be sacrilege to build upon it. I had the honour of visiting the site recently and it was unbearably moving.

What is mace exactly anyway - is it CS spray or a different chemical? Does anyone know the first aid to aid someone who has been maced? I know what to do with CS as I've been exposed a few times to that. All good fun.

Bitseach, London!

Cool site - with some really excellent CPR simulators for anyone who's interested in First Aid. Try the Variable Outcomes simulator http://lessstress.com/simulator/ and see how brain-dead your patient is in the end! I keep scoring 97 our of 100 because I keep forgetting to bare the chest before starting chest compressions - in reality it isn't critical until you need to position the electrodes. _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My karma will run over your dogma ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ This Message was edited by: Bitseach on 2002-07-12 10:38 ]

Don Gwinn - I confess (mea culpa) that I am shocked to see your broad-minded views on this one. That's what you get for forming opinions too quickly! (me, I mean!) Good on you, Redneck!

Please note that the chap to whom you are referring is based in Pakistan. So think about THAT... Er, hang on. In the UK you really can say what you like - pretty much. I have always found the difference between America's purported enshrinement of free speech, and her hysterical self-censorship, risible.

Eye of Tiger - no it's true that the UK has more public surveillance than a lot of places. In fact I seem to remember the US banning a lot of CCTV surveillance that was suggested to combat terrorism after September. Interestingly, it is because of the influence of Irish terrorism in the UK that we prompted the greater use of CCTV initially. Whlst I don't know how many Irish terrorists have been caught as a result, the "Soho nail bomber" - a right-wing nutcase fascist type who planted bombs targetting black people, Asians and gays - was tracked down after extensive video footage was examined from each case. You might find that it is an unpleasant expedient in The War Against Terrorism (what idiot thought that phrase up - did he not think of the acronym it would produce??!) I still wouldn't call us a police state though - if you'd been here, Don, you'd see how much less of a police state it is than the US, where a lot of hte small local forces seem to have an awful lot of autonomy. ALso UK police are RELATIVELY smart compared with US cops too, who seem like knuckle-dragging neanderthals by comparison. They seem to be more interested in getting personal respect and body-building than the law or society from any that I've met or seen! Admittedly my personal experience is all of the midwestern states and a few LAPD officers I've known (except for those I've seen on TV) but they were all total yokels! Are there no entrance exams to be a cop in the States?? (serious question!) Over there it seems you can be arrested for "contempt of cop". Interestingly an American friend of mine got off a parking ticket in London once after she called the police officer, "sir". The poor chap nearly fell of the pavement in shock! I just tried to keep my face straight!

Hey, nice site - thank your "hunny" from me!

Kickchick - an article - what a good idea! Well volunteered Old Girl!

The 52nd Lowland Division. LOL.

Bit of a rant there Don, eh? Hope you feel better for getting it out of your system. Try an anger management class next time! I don't *hate* anyone who collects knives and swords - if you have taken that interpretation then that is your head translating my words into something that suits your agenda. Of course I do think that it is unhealthy and note that a lot of mentally unbalanced people are attracted to knives and guns, often to disguise some inadequacy in their lives. Case in point the schizophrenic chap that I mentioned who went mad in a Church with a "samurai" sword and nearly hacked someone's arm off and had a good go at cleaving their skull in two. Mercifully, an off-duty police officer as well as other members of the congregation were able to disarm and restrain him. Another madman was recently killed by armed police officers after refusing to drop a sharp katana he was waving around on the streets. Darwin award, anyone? Your comment on kitchen knives is facetious, specious and other words rhyming with "eeshus". IF you so easily wound up by another's opinion, then you are probably not stable enough to own a knife collection. Pax vobiscum, frater!