JusticeZero

Yeek! Never heard of such a thing. I'm going to be really concerned if this turns into another model crime to be copied by others, like Columbine created with "active shooter" model attacks.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/24/16125861-4-volunteer-firefighters-shot-2-killed-in-apparent-trap?lite

That was pretty much my thoughts on the matter too, but I still found the article to have some interesting stuff in it. Didn't find the conclusion compelling, but the material in the argument was kind've cool, and it makes for a good read.

Heard of it, seen it, appreciate it, don't practice it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20790294

I look at the wall behind them. Track the eyes softly over the outside of their silhouette. Don't ever look directly at them.

Honestly I can see both sides of the debate, and i'm sure the founders of different art did too and chose sides for their own reasons. I know s8 is going to pipe in soon in favor of a profound understanding of arcane and terrifyingly effective applications out of bunkai, because he's a bunkai expert and really, really good at it and can come up with things that will make a soldier cringe from looking at someone's pinky twitch in a form and someone else, Ev maybe, will pipe in with the case for knocking each other black and blue three times a week because guys that she's eye level with the armpits of hauling off and punching her in the face makes her giggle by reminding her of the white belt kids class she probably just played moving punching bag for a few hours back right before she goes "Hey, I learned this cool new trick, it REALLY HURTS!" and demonstrates. Really I think that whoever is assembling the teaching methodology for a given form can work it out. We'll go with whatever our favorite teacher believes in. They all seem to get some good results, so i'm not going to worry about how some teacher that is not in my lineage got there. =)

I think of a strategy of -Strike to create reactions, or block/parry the opening attack, then manipulate the joint, pin, or throw/ground as available to get the arrest- JJJ was, after all, built up as a police art iirc. I'd think you are trying to use a lot of tools to work toward an arrest/control position - so for each chain, start with anything that locks down an opponent, then work your way back through blocks, striking, etc. to build up "how to get there". ...but then again, my JJJ experience is negligible, so I might be completely off on this. But you asked what I think of.

Form and structure. I don't know about the Karate form exactly, but gongfu tends to have some counter-intuitive ways of generating acceleration or peak impulse that are based around constructing a rigid structure inside of the target.

It always seemed to me that the only major difference between "Internal" and "External" is the difference between "Obsess over form first before trying to do it hard" versus "Try to do it hard; we'll fix the form later".

Good, trying to get finals dealt with. Need to figure out what class not to take next semester, since they're all good but I need the comp prep IS too. Trying to get input on when to schedule training for next semester.

It's good to hear from you! Where in the world are you now, and what good things have you been achieving? I was worried that like so many others, you had drifted away, always to leave me wondering whatever happened to you, like a good book from a trilogy that you can't find the others to.

Yeah, it depends on the school. Different schools will have different routines regarding clothing standards that are unique to that club. One of the schools I have dealt with would use the wearing of a school t-shirt (normal training wear) rather than 'bring whatever' as an intermediate informal 'rank' between new student and receiving the first cord, for instance. That rank was at about the point where you knew all of the basic techniques by name, the basic routine of class, and be able to explain what was going on when various normal things were being done - 'You know the routine well enough to follow along, blend in as a student, and not do anything out of place'.

A pleasure! Glad to hear you're having such a good time, and that you're getting a lot out of the discussions. Feel free to toss out questions or comments of your own, we don't bite, other than some of the RBSD nutters with their crazier strength exercises.

That means you are actually learning history. History is about what really happenned, not propaganda stories. It's a shame that they don't teach all that much history in grade school, instead teaching a certain specific sanitized and often inaccurate story which is honestly a lot less interesting and impressive than the real thing. I don't remember reading much about the native americans in high school, and a lot of what everybody knows about history has been found to be somewhat outmoded. Revere rode with a lot of other people and was probably immortalized in spite of his performance, not because of it, because his name rhymed. There were several U.S. presidents before George Washington. The most important factor in womnens liberation was very possibly the invention of Dunlop's pneumatic bicycle tire. History is important to learn; propaganda stories with suspect origins aren't history.

Sure, and i'm not disagreeing with you. That said, a lot of people start to see everything as being best applied one way, and vice versa. "When all you have is a hammer". This makes for a very useful hammer, but some things need a roundabout way of getting to them to some extent. I need to learn music, lyrics, history, anthropology, and physics to be good at what I do. They all tie together in ways. The person who just wants to be tough isn't going to care about these things - and will miss out on some things that are reflected in combat application as a result.

Same for both - crosstrainers. I don't have a lot of options for shoes. But it's good to use the same sort've shoes you normally wear. Then again, I consider the best surface to practice breakfalls on to be cobblestone or brick.

It's the difference between breaking down the principles of movement and leverage in the techniques, versus just learning some techniques by rote, i'd think - but it looks like the moralizing got in the way of the message.

Yeah, that was about what I was thinking, too.. The ability to communicate the concepts involved to others and have them be effective too helps. If someone were born with a freakish mutant stinger claw that meant they could fight well, they wouldn't be all that much of a martial artist, because there's no artistry involved that can be transferred.

Boxers experience many of the same benefits, but tend not to develop their fists enough, because of the gloves, to be able to punch safely without gloves. Also, boxers don't get the benefit in places like their back or legs where they are rarely hit.

CMA uses a lot of "gongs", which are skills that are trained the heck out of. That's one of them. One of the major components is the way that stressing the bones encourages the gain of bone density; safest is low intensity stress that doesn't damage the bones done often, such as in joggers' leg bones. I think a similar process affects the skin and musculature to some extent. Thus, a person who gets beat on a lot in practice, without being broken in the process, will be physically more durable than someone who doesn't. Furthermore, they will probably be mentally more prepared. Pain is actually a sensation that can carry a lot of information, and a person who is used to examining the sensation for content will seem much tougher than someone who reacts to it's mere presence. Japanese MA tend to achieve this by training hard in general, Chinese martial arts generally use high repetitions of controlled light impact exercises.

Most of the reason that you don't get along with them is because you don't hang around with them. If you were training with them, after the first few days of them demonstrating that they do in fact have the same social skills of every other high school student, that is, "not as many as they think they do", you'd likely find that they're actually pretty awesome people, even if they are more outspoken and whatnot than you tend to be.

There has been that discussion, but the summary of it was basically that there are a lot of people similar to the ninja around, but that they aren't in lineage.

Saw this somewhere else, thought it was amusing.

Ninjutsu doesn't do competitions, basically ever. Their training is pretty much the pinnacle of "Uhm... we don't train for competitions..". Their kata are two movements long at max, and they spend a lot of time working on weapons techniques that would fit in with military combatives and on various other side skills.